ParkieDem
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Tue Apr-06-10 10:53 AM
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| 13. You make a great point. |
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I read somewhere recently about the "9/91" factor: From birth to age 19, children spend 9% of their time in school, and 91% of their time elsewhere. To think that higher standards for teachers, incentive payments for teachers, NCLB, or any major federal program for education is going to improve outcomes is just fantasy.
Our policies don't need to focus on schools, they need to focus on families and making it easier for adults to spend time monitoring and playing with their kids.
This isn't a solution, but I have seen a greater trend (at least in my area) of middle-class, thirtysomething mothers electing to stay at home more and more. Many mothers are finding that, when you factor in the cost of daycare, gas for the commute to work, and other expenses associated with having a job, it really doesn't make much sense to work outside the home unless you're commanding a pretty high salary. I hope this trend (not the high costs, but parents electing to stay home) continues.
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| -Bad teachers didn't cause our educational problems in this country |
Klukie |
Apr-06-10 10:21 AM |
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It's not really a question of parents being able to handle both sets of responsibilities-- |
TwilightGardener |
Apr-06-10 10:27 AM |
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True, but on the other hand, staying at home is an option that many can and do afford. |
KittyWampus |
Apr-06-10 10:33 AM |
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The term used to be "a living wage" when unions and |
kiva |
Apr-06-10 10:45 AM |
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Yeah..I know people can't afford it |
Klukie |
Apr-06-10 10:35 AM |
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what a lot of lower paying wage homes need to sit down and figure is IF going to work is really |
seabeyond |
Apr-06-10 10:42 AM |
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The destruction of the middle class. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Apr-06-10 11:06 AM |
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so true. this really bothers me in the lack of comprehension how much this will hurt ALL of us |
seabeyond |
Apr-06-10 11:37 AM |
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Agreed, though your post probably won't be popular. But it's not just babies/toddlers needing |
KittyWampus |
Apr-06-10 10:28 AM |
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"Our teachers are not the problem.....we are." yup. nt |
seabeyond |
Apr-06-10 10:36 AM |
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That and it's cool to be ignorant these days |
Kievan Rus |
Apr-06-10 10:39 AM |
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i agree, but that is out of the home too. since babies, we embraced education |
seabeyond |
Apr-06-10 10:44 AM |
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Yup. And too many hero-worship athletes and sneer at intellectuals. |
City Lights |
Apr-06-10 11:01 AM |
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Well, aren't you special |
Tansy_Gold |
Apr-06-10 10:40 AM |
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I don't give a crap who stays home with them.... |
Klukie |
Apr-06-10 10:52 AM |
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He picks up the tab |
Tansy_Gold |
Apr-06-10 11:12 AM |
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no, it isnt pick up the tab. and you use that choice of wordage to project your less than positive |
seabeyond |
Apr-06-10 11:39 AM |
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One other thing... |
Klukie |
Apr-06-10 10:57 AM |
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You go right ahead and with my blessing, even if you don't want it |
Tansy_Gold |
Apr-06-10 02:22 PM |
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I think you apply way too much luck to the issue. |
Klukie |
Apr-06-10 04:21 PM |
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Absolutely correct. |
jaksavage |
Apr-06-10 10:43 AM |
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You make a great point. |
ParkieDem |
Apr-06-10 10:53 AM |
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Parents are middlemen |
The2ndWheel |
Apr-06-10 11:10 AM |
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Yes/No. The teaching field has lost a lot of its talent pool now that women can go into other jobs. |
Captain Hilts |
Apr-06-10 11:12 AM |
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Your observations are spot on.... |
AnneD |
Apr-06-10 11:26 AM |
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there was no golden age when children were loved and nurtured and taught |
mopinko |
Apr-06-10 11:30 AM |
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Many Western European countries pay parents for time off--both sexes |
eridani |
Apr-06-10 12:12 PM |
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You skipped step 1 in the process: what problems? |
ieoeja |
Apr-06-10 02:54 PM |
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Thank you. |
Tansy_Gold |
Apr-06-10 04:50 PM |
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So we aren't behind in math and science compared to other countries? |
Klukie |
Apr-06-10 05:00 PM |
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again, i will put it on the parents. |
seabeyond |
Apr-06-10 05:25 PM |
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Does the district your children attend have these problems? |
etherealtruth |
Apr-06-10 06:28 PM |
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Which country are we behind in math and science as measured by ... |
ieoeja |
Apr-07-10 02:00 PM |
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I understand your point but I am not going to point my finger at any working parents. |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-06-10 05:00 PM |
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There's another direction the finger of blame should point. |
Dr Morbius |
Apr-06-10 05:34 PM |
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It all goes back to 'values' and values come from home. n/t |
Fire1 |
Apr-06-10 06:45 PM |
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Bullseye!!! The fact of the matter is good parents have to battle |
Naturalist111 |
Apr-06-10 06:40 PM |
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There are plenty of SAH parents who are lousy parents... doesn't matter if you work or not, it's |
NotThisTime |
Apr-07-10 02:36 PM |
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Who are all these people choosing to have children they are marginally able to care for? |
Taitertots |
Apr-07-10 02:55 PM |
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