nadinbrzezinski
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Tue Apr-06-10 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #66 |
| 130. Well if you cannot undesrtand that |
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well I guess I am all the way to the Kuiper belt, happy now?
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| -We all have blood in our hands |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 12:55 AM |
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You make a good case for not voting and not paying taxes |
leftstreet |
Apr-06-10 01:04 AM |
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That is what people have done at times |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 01:07 AM |
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What a crock |
BeFree |
Apr-06-10 01:04 AM |
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Yep part of the fantasy is that you have no responsiblty |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 01:10 AM |
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Oh |
BeFree |
Apr-06-10 01:13 AM |
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Are you a citizen? Yes or no? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 01:22 AM |
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I thought our current POTUS meant to get us out of these wars... |
Mimosa |
Apr-06-10 01:05 AM |
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That economy has existed before |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 01:12 AM |
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I've said STOP.....I went out and protested BEFORE the Iraq invasion..... |
Mind_your_head |
Apr-06-10 01:07 AM |
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My sentiments exactly: "I don't feel guilty. I feel ineffectual. |
Raksha |
Apr-06-10 08:44 AM |
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Sorry, you're flat wrong in this. Your points carry no weight because those you try to blame |
Greyhound |
Apr-06-10 01:14 AM |
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So citizens have no responsibilty? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 01:23 AM |
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Citizens with no voice and no choice, no. |
Greyhound |
Apr-06-10 01:38 AM |
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No it does not, you may beleive it does |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 01:44 AM |
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So you contend that a slave is responsible for crimes committed by his master. |
Greyhound |
Apr-06-10 02:01 AM |
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You aren't a slave |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 02:02 AM |
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Harriet Tubman disagrees. |
Greyhound |
Apr-06-10 02:25 AM |
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so I guess we have slave pens in the US |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 02:29 AM |
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And there are no tanks on the streets so it's not fascism either. |
Greyhound |
Apr-06-10 02:43 AM |
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Apr-06-10 02:58 AM |
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As I said, we have surrendered |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 12:39 PM |
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Harriet Tubman put her life on the line for what she believed in |
Bluerthanblue |
Apr-06-10 01:31 PM |
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Apr-06-10 02:21 AM |
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We do have many choices as to how far we involve ourselves with the military-industrial complex. |
Orsino |
Apr-06-10 11:52 AM |
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Maybe you do. I don't. |
Marr |
Apr-06-10 01:23 AM |
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No I wasn't, but I have the same responsibity of |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 01:25 AM |
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It's hard to grasp because it's asinine. |
Marr |
Apr-06-10 01:28 AM |
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Apr-06-10 01:30 AM |
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I'm impressed with your high school reading list. n/t |
Marr |
Apr-06-10 01:33 AM |
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Sartre is High School really? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 01:38 AM |
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i read "no exit" at summer camp when i was 16. being as it was the 60s & all, |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-06-10 02:28 AM |
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like jefferson, she imagines herself one of the elite who are qualified to educate |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-06-10 02:24 AM |
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Anyone can parrot quotes. Understanding takes study, however. |
TexasObserver |
Apr-06-10 09:30 AM |
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Apr-06-10 02:38 AM |
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I don't know where you've been, but the rights of citizenship no longer exist, |
Raksha |
Apr-06-10 08:54 AM |
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THey don't? That will be a world of a surprise |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 03:56 PM |
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Not me so much...but you are right in general. |
Bonobo |
Apr-06-10 01:24 AM |
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Huh uh, no. Not at all. |
JeffR |
Apr-06-10 01:26 AM |
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Yes we are, all of us |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 01:28 AM |
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You're not responsible. Period. Posture all you want, you are not responsible. |
JeffR |
Apr-06-10 01:36 AM |
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Then you are not a citizen? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 01:43 AM |
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I am indeed a citizen. |
JeffR |
Apr-06-10 02:02 AM |
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That cheesy argument was also advocated by Hannah Arendt |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 02:09 AM |
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most people making under $30K pay little or no income tax. |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-06-10 02:35 AM |
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Arendt thought this through deeply, and I suspect with considerable pain. |
JeffR |
Apr-06-10 02:55 AM |
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Nadin, most Americans living overseas have to file income taxes |
akbacchus_BC |
Apr-06-10 03:18 AM |
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I'm so poor that I don't pay taxes....there is nothing to tax. |
Mind_your_head |
Apr-06-10 01:36 AM |
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"NO, I DON'T WANT MINE TO FUND DOD?" |
CrispyQ |
Apr-06-10 10:52 AM |
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Perhaps you should present yourself to the Hague for prosecution. N/T |
DrCory |
Apr-06-10 12:40 PM |
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no one's demonizing soldiers. but soldiers do have a degree of choice: 1) |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-06-10 02:32 AM |
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Glad you mentioned that. You're right. |
JeffR |
Apr-06-10 03:30 AM |
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Yeah, The Hurt Locker did horrible. |
VMI Dem |
Apr-06-10 01:36 AM |
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So you also have found the IRS secret section |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 01:40 AM |
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Mind_your_head's responses on this thread say it better than I've done. |
JeffR |
Apr-06-10 01:39 AM |
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What that as a CITIZEN we are all responsible? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 01:41 AM |
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I'm sorry, but I think you're getting further and further off-base on this. |
JeffR |
Apr-06-10 01:52 AM |
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And you'd be wrong |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 01:55 AM |
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Oh, for Christ's sake... |
JeffR |
Apr-06-10 02:08 AM |
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So you are a citizen, and you vote |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 02:12 AM |
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Swing and a miss, I'm afraid. |
JeffR |
Apr-06-10 02:16 AM |
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Of course I can |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 02:19 AM |
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That's a remarkably tawdry accusation, as I believe you'll appreciate. |
JeffR |
Apr-06-10 02:42 AM |
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wait a minute. what specifically`in those works |
cali |
Apr-06-10 02:28 AM |
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Apr-06-10 02:42 AM |
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Actually |
Rex |
Apr-06-10 02:02 AM |
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Who is the CIC? Who elected the CiC |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 02:08 AM |
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And at this point, I really am sorry, |
JeffR |
Apr-06-10 02:11 AM |
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Is it? What is that argument> That there is responsiblty for a people? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 02:13 AM |
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Say what you will. You've still waded into hyperbole without a rope walk to guide you back. |
JeffR |
Apr-06-10 02:30 AM |
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The point is that our military is occupying two countries in the Middle East that we have no busines |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 02:32 AM |
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You're hitting the asteroid belt at this point. |
JeffR |
Apr-06-10 02:46 AM |
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Well if you cannot undesrtand that |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 04:31 PM |
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more than didn't consult - blatantly, repeatedly LIED, on every media outlet, |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-06-10 02:49 AM |
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A very pertinent point. |
JeffR |
Apr-06-10 03:11 AM |
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Sounds more like it is about you. |
Rex |
Apr-06-10 02:28 AM |
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Yes and in an ideal world |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 02:36 AM |
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Well you are allowed to get on your soap box anytime you want here on DU |
Rex |
Apr-06-10 03:02 AM |
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Yes I get it, this country has NOT taught CIVIC responsibity |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 12:24 PM |
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Right...war crimes should be blamed on the people who commit them, |
Raksha |
Apr-07-10 12:12 PM |
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unrec. what garbage. |
cali |
Apr-06-10 02:05 AM |
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Apr-06-10 02:08 AM |
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by your twisted and puerile "logic" |
cali |
Apr-06-10 02:16 AM |
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Your accusation that I am responsible implies... |
tkmorris |
Apr-06-10 02:19 AM |
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Here is the problem WE have the power |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 02:20 AM |
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lol. mouthing platitudes as a response to a query asking for specifics |
cali |
Apr-06-10 02:24 AM |
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you're so fond of telling people what to read, here, why don't you review the history of the |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-06-10 02:57 AM |
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Thank you. |
JeffR |
Apr-06-10 03:18 AM |
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Do you plan on arresting yourself then? |
MUAD_DIB |
Apr-06-10 07:46 AM |
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Renting of garments, gnashing of teeth, pulling of hair |
cali |
Apr-06-10 07:55 AM |
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Nah, more like it is nice to see |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 12:35 PM |
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So what do you plan to personally do about it. |
MUAD_DIB |
Apr-06-10 08:31 PM |
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Show me when it has been different in US history. |
MUAD_DIB |
Apr-07-10 12:25 PM |
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not in my name. not either occupation |
Mari333 |
Apr-06-10 07:48 AM |
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I'm a peace nick, and in this I disagree with you |
lunatica |
Apr-06-10 08:00 AM |
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Unfortunately, Nadin, most of us HAVE NO real voice, have no real say. |
Odin2005 |
Apr-06-10 08:13 AM |
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That is the problem, WE DO |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 12:36 PM |
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Speak for yourself, because I am NOT responsible! |
Raksha |
Apr-06-10 08:32 AM |
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I never did either |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 12:34 PM |
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Ya think? We really do have the power to change something/anything? |
Raksha |
Apr-07-10 12:20 PM |
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You actually think we the people or the President we elected is in CHARGE of anything? |
HughBeaumont |
Apr-06-10 08:35 AM |
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Alas now you are not responsible |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 12:40 PM |
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If this were an opt-in society, I'd agree 100% |
The2ndWheel |
Apr-06-10 08:44 AM |
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IT is beyond taxes |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 12:32 PM |
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K&R n/t |
Fire1 |
Apr-06-10 08:59 AM |
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You're confusing responsibility with civic duty.... |
Uben |
Apr-06-10 09:01 AM |
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Ridiculous |
NeedleCast |
Apr-06-10 09:07 AM |
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No, we don't all have blood on our hands. |
TexasObserver |
Apr-06-10 09:08 AM |
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As a Nation, we ALL bear a collective responsibility. |
bvar22 |
Apr-06-10 10:16 AM |
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This sort of collective responsibility is crap |
NeedleCast |
Apr-06-10 10:17 AM |
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and it's such pretentious and stupid crap |
cali |
Apr-06-10 11:29 AM |
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Ask the German people if they think "collective responsibility" is crap. |
bvar22 |
Apr-06-10 03:19 PM |
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Exactly, you read Niemoller in your time as well |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 12:26 PM |
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There has been a concerted effort to blame everything on Obama |
happy_liberal |
Apr-06-10 11:07 AM |
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I respectfully disagree Nadine, in retrospect your reasoning excuses the guilty |
AuntPatsy |
Apr-06-10 11:38 AM |
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No it does not |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 12:29 PM |
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I don't believe that I expressed what I wanted to say very well because |
AuntPatsy |
Apr-06-10 01:01 PM |
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On to the soldiers |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 02:28 PM |
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Actually I just have some resin stains on my thumb... |
snooper2 |
Apr-06-10 11:39 AM |
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I totally disagree. |
Brickbat |
Apr-06-10 11:44 AM |
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Guilty as charged. |
tcaudilllg |
Apr-06-10 12:42 PM |
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I'm a 'peace nick' and I |
Bluerthanblue |
Apr-06-10 01:14 PM |
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But she's trying to lay blame on those of us who have done just that. n/t |
Greyhound |
Apr-06-10 01:16 PM |
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It's not a question of her "laying the blame" so much as reminding |
Bluerthanblue |
Apr-06-10 01:45 PM |
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I know I was a little kid, but my parents were very heavily involved in |
Greyhound |
Apr-06-10 02:11 PM |
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Exactly, that is what it will take |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 03:28 PM |
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Things being wrongly done in our name and against our will isn't the same |
TheKentuckian |
Apr-06-10 01:25 PM |
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No but it goes into the concept in International Law |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 03:58 PM |
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I sort of agree |
okie |
Apr-06-10 01:42 PM |
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You have taken the first step |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 03:24 PM |
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Sadly... |
xocet |
Apr-06-10 02:08 PM |
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Wrong on so many counts but here's one. |
county worker |
Apr-06-10 02:37 PM |
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I know what war is too |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 03:27 PM |
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You are hung up on guilt. |
county worker |
Apr-07-10 01:34 PM |
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Blood in our hands indeed - we need to stop the war!!!! |
kgnu_fan |
Apr-06-10 03:27 PM |
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war. is. fucked. period. |
spanone |
Apr-06-10 03:57 PM |
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Stop the killing NOW!!!!! |
kgnu_fan |
Apr-06-10 04:55 PM |
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Excellent info k*r |
autorank |
Apr-06-10 10:50 PM |
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The last week has been a reminder to me |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 10:52 PM |
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"Peace Nicks". LOL. You can't even spell it. And you spit it out with such contempt. |
Bonobo |
Apr-06-10 10:53 PM |
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Don't blame me I couldn't vote in 2000 and I voted for Kerry in 2004. |
craigmatic |
Apr-06-10 11:00 PM |
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We are still responsible |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-10 11:02 PM |
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What do you personally plan to do about it? |
MUAD_DIB |
Apr-07-10 10:17 AM |
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well |
BeFree |
Apr-07-10 10:23 AM |
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I surmise then that the OP has done little except to start a vanity thread. |
MUAD_DIB |
Apr-07-10 11:40 AM |
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so many unrec's. sad. the german people denied there were concentration camps , too. |
Mari333 |
Apr-07-10 11:41 AM |
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oh for the love of reason. no one is denying these wars |
cali |
Apr-07-10 11:53 AM |
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Are we all responsbile for the war, sure, to a certain extent. |
MadHound |
Apr-07-10 12:19 PM |
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This is an ignorant post |
johnlucas |
Apr-07-10 12:45 PM |
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