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Tue Apr-06-10 10:07 PM
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| 55. No Way, No How there is justification for this |
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Which I have thought and said from the day of 911 after saying to friends in 98 that we would be going to war after w was insterted into the WH. I ll leave it at that, I saw the video on Rachel earlier.
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| -36 Still Images - WikiLeaks Iraq Video (Dial-Up Warning and UPDATE from Wikileaks |
Hissyspit |
Apr-05-10 10:41 PM |
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K&R |
Jamastiene |
Apr-05-10 10:51 PM |
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Apr-05-10 11:02 PM |
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Needs to be seen. |
chill_wind |
Apr-05-10 10:58 PM |
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Apr-05-10 11:02 PM |
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Highly recommended. |
TexasObserver |
Apr-05-10 11:03 PM |
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K&R n/t |
OhioChick |
Apr-05-10 11:05 PM |
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K&R n/t |
Canuckistanian |
Apr-05-10 11:06 PM |
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It's worse than I thought. Damn us. Slaughter. We are slaughterers. We teach our young soldiers |
peacetalksforall |
Apr-05-10 11:15 PM |
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Exactly. The US is the slaughterers of the world. |
Xenotime |
Apr-07-10 09:03 AM |
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K&R |
Luciferous |
Apr-05-10 11:21 PM |
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Well now you see, those guys over there had RPGs you can see it if your not a COMMIE. |
Rex |
Apr-05-10 11:24 PM |
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There were RPGs. And journalists. And AK-47s. And children. NT |
Recursion |
Apr-07-10 12:42 PM |
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Yep, "bringing their kids into a battle" |
gratuitous |
Apr-06-10 12:06 AM |
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You got it! You are supposed to think like a robot and never think that maybe |
Rex |
Apr-06-10 12:09 AM |
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The occupation of Iraq, given that is a war of choice, is a gigantic war crime |
liberation |
Apr-06-10 10:26 AM |
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No Way, No How there is justification for this |
HillbillyBob |
Apr-06-10 10:07 PM |
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Well they feel a duty toward the troops and will say any crazy thing they |
Rex |
Apr-07-10 04:47 AM |
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K&R |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-06-10 12:31 AM |
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There are no words... |
Odin2005 |
Apr-06-10 08:25 AM |
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K&R |
Soylent Brice |
Apr-06-10 09:49 AM |
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K&R. Post was very well done...nt |
SidDithers |
Apr-06-10 09:53 AM |
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knr. |
Mari333 |
Apr-06-10 09:53 AM |
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Most important, now, is we're still doing this shit |
bhikkhu |
Apr-06-10 10:21 AM |
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+1 Easy to see why the world loves us so |
Echo In Light |
Apr-06-10 10:27 AM |
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knr. This is just one moment in 9 years of US wars. |
tekisui |
Apr-06-10 10:31 AM |
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+1 |
Blue_Tires |
Apr-06-10 10:46 AM |
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Watching the entire video made it very clear to me how people what they expect to see or what they |
Brickbat |
Apr-06-10 10:25 AM |
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Exactly, I watched the entire thing. |
krispos42 |
Apr-06-10 11:06 AM |
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I agree with everything you said. |
Brickbat |
Apr-06-10 11:22 AM |
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Do you two remember that basketball video thing? |
Robb |
Apr-06-10 11:26 AM |
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Yup. And it totally got me. |
Brickbat |
Apr-06-10 11:33 AM |
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The pilots had much better visuals |
ArcticFox |
Apr-06-10 07:13 PM |
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You're not considering the distance involved |
jeff47 |
Apr-06-10 10:30 PM |
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Yes I am |
ArcticFox |
Apr-07-10 08:31 AM |
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That is highly dubious |
beckstcw |
Apr-06-10 11:30 PM |
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they put out both the long version and the short version |
TorchTheWitch |
Apr-07-10 06:02 AM |
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k |
Mari333 |
Apr-06-10 10:41 AM |
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welcome to war... |
greencharlie |
Apr-06-10 11:38 AM |
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Everyone in Iraq is innocent. |
OnyxCollie |
Apr-06-10 01:15 PM |
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1. Our invasion of Iraq was based pretty much entirely on LIES. |
Hissyspit |
Apr-06-10 04:47 PM |
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Doesn't say much about the soldiers, still just war in general. |
jeff47 |
Apr-06-10 10:51 PM |
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Since you mentioned Pat Tillman. |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-07-10 12:35 AM |
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Re: Since you mentioned Pat Tillman. |
jeff47 |
Apr-07-10 07:24 AM |
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the pilots saw 2-3 people with what they thought were "weapons". they then radioed that |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-07-10 09:30 AM |
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Except there actually was at least 1 armed person there |
jeff47 |
Apr-07-10 12:31 PM |
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unless i missed something, there was nothing like that before they asked permission to kill. |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-07-10 12:43 PM |
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Carrying an AK was evidence |
jeff47 |
Apr-08-10 07:25 AM |
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Well, we agree on the Bush administration' illegal occupation |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-07-10 12:48 PM |
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The differences are mostly a matter of scope |
jeff47 |
Apr-08-10 07:37 AM |
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K & R !!! |
WillyT |
Apr-06-10 11:45 AM |
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K&R n/t |
proReality |
Apr-06-10 12:33 PM |
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kicking. |
chill_wind |
Apr-06-10 01:04 PM |
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K&R. nt |
OnyxCollie |
Apr-06-10 01:11 PM |
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I believe Monday should be even more interesting, er, disturbing. |
Deadgnome |
Apr-06-10 04:16 PM |
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Thanks for the post. R |
Better Believe It |
Apr-06-10 04:20 PM |
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K & R nt |
laughingliberal |
Apr-06-10 04:50 PM |
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i can't articulate the rage i feel inside |
mrs_p |
Apr-06-10 05:31 PM |
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One thing that hasn't been mentioned much in favor |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-06-10 06:26 PM |
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+1 |
suffragette |
Apr-06-10 08:21 PM |
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You're assuming nobody reflects on their actions |
jeff47 |
Apr-06-10 10:41 PM |
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I have assumed nothing. |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-07-10 12:46 AM |
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For one thing, you're assuming I'm blase about it |
jeff47 |
Apr-07-10 07:16 AM |
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And since covering up all crimes of past administrations |
Moochy |
Apr-07-10 10:43 AM |
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That's up to us. |
jeff47 |
Apr-07-10 12:38 PM |
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Great point about Pinochet |
Moochy |
Apr-07-10 04:09 PM |
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Well, if having a weapon in Iraq means instant execution by the |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-07-10 01:47 PM |
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It's a war |
jeff47 |
Apr-08-10 07:57 AM |
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There was a very good reason why |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-08-10 04:37 PM |
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K and a big ole R! n/t |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-06-10 06:46 PM |
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K&R |
smokey nj |
Apr-06-10 07:56 PM |
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This is what CNN reported this AM |
Synnical |
Apr-06-10 08:05 PM |
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Whenever you hear "XX insurgents were killed today . . . " |
donco6 |
Apr-06-10 08:06 PM |
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This is what Democracy Now! Reported Today |
Synnical |
Apr-06-10 08:16 PM |
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And a K & R n/t |
Synnical |
Apr-06-10 08:17 PM |
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This is our generation's Pentagon Papers. |
The_Commonist |
Apr-06-10 08:50 PM |
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The more things change . . . |
donco6 |
Apr-06-10 09:08 PM |
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K&R |
amborin |
Apr-06-10 08:58 PM |
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A massacre. |
cornermouse |
Apr-06-10 09:20 PM |
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disgusting |
fascisthunter |
Apr-06-10 10:03 PM |
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Must be a shift change. |
donco6 |
Apr-06-10 10:05 PM |
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This is why pre-emptive war is madness |
jeff47 |
Apr-06-10 10:25 PM |
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Defend it! Go ahead! Someone please tell me how you defend THAT!!!! |
Bonobo |
Apr-06-10 10:32 PM |
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So you want to unleash violence because someone else unleashed violence? |
jeff47 |
Apr-06-10 11:01 PM |
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The difference is that I have control. I do not practice violence on others. nt |
Bonobo |
Apr-06-10 11:12 PM |
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Perhaps you should re-read your previous post |
jeff47 |
Apr-06-10 11:15 PM |
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Apr-06-10 11:22 PM |
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Done. |
beckstcw |
Apr-06-10 11:31 PM |
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What kind of research, oh warrior? nt |
Bonobo |
Apr-06-10 11:35 PM |
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The kind I did below :) |
beckstcw |
Apr-06-10 11:36 PM |
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delete |
Hissyspit |
Apr-07-10 12:13 AM |
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There is no reason to continue this stupid war. |
midnight |
Apr-06-10 10:33 PM |
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Apr-06-10 11:26 PM |
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Apr-06-10 11:31 PM |
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Apr-06-10 11:34 PM |
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Why don't you tell me why those pilots were firing in a populated area to begin with? |
LAGC |
Apr-06-10 11:45 PM |
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Apr-06-10 11:51 PM |
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I have not once said that there were not insurgents involved in the incident: |
Hissyspit |
Apr-07-10 12:06 AM |
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No it's not |
beckstcw |
Apr-07-10 12:19 AM |
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Yes, it is. By the way, |
Hissyspit |
Apr-07-10 12:29 AM |
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Not to wax too eloquent |
beckstcw |
Apr-07-10 12:36 AM |
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No. |
Hissyspit |
Apr-07-10 04:26 AM |
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I have no idea why I posted "no where" three times, instead of nowhere. |
Hissyspit |
Apr-07-10 04:25 AM |
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Yes it is |
TorchTheWitch |
Apr-07-10 06:25 AM |
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I'd K&R this if it were it's own thread... Nicely put.. |
walldude |
Apr-07-10 12:45 AM |
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Thank you Hissyspit |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-07-10 12:59 AM |
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I'd agree-- this is a whole OP that could stand all alone |
chill_wind |
Apr-07-10 08:14 AM |
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It's about American exceptionalism. |
Moochy |
Apr-07-10 10:30 AM |
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It doesn't matter, remember? It's the Iraqis fault for bringing their kids to a battle |
EFerrari |
Apr-07-10 12:33 AM |
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Citation for that? |
beckstcw |
Apr-07-10 12:37 AM |
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I thought you said you watched the long version of this video. |
EFerrari |
Apr-07-10 12:39 AM |
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Oops.. caught in his own bullshit... Of course when he talked about how |
walldude |
Apr-07-10 12:41 AM |
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Here's the bit from the transcript: |
EFerrari |
Apr-07-10 12:42 AM |
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Darn, you caught me! |
beckstcw |
Apr-07-10 01:13 AM |
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Now lets hope others catch on too! |
Moochy |
Apr-07-10 10:31 AM |
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Sorry, I should've clarified. Citation for the part about being on their way to the tutor? |
beckstcw |
Apr-07-10 12:45 AM |
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I haven't jumped anywhere. |
EFerrari |
Apr-07-10 12:46 AM |
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Mostly, that comment was aimed at walldude, sorry for that. |
beckstcw |
Apr-07-10 12:50 AM |
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Dan Froomkin has it here: |
EFerrari |
Apr-07-10 12:53 AM |
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Who are the other two men? They aren't mentioned at all. |
beckstcw |
Apr-07-10 01:02 AM |
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Baloney. There was zero reason to blow up that van. n/t |
EFerrari |
Apr-07-10 01:03 AM |
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Like I said, that's possible (PROBABLY, even) true... |
beckstcw |
Apr-07-10 01:09 AM |
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Here is a video that shows these "insurgents" talking about this attack. |
EFerrari |
Apr-07-10 02:38 AM |
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They sounded like they were having fun to me. |
donco6 |
Apr-07-10 05:28 AM |
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Wikileaks provided both the long and short versions |
TorchTheWitch |
Apr-07-10 07:05 AM |
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I know that WikiLeaks put out both versions |
beckstcw |
Apr-07-10 05:23 PM |
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Thank you for your concern. n/t |
EFerrari |
Apr-07-10 12:35 AM |
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Apr-07-10 01:21 AM |
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that's your job |
TorchTheWitch |
Apr-07-10 07:50 AM |
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Apr-07-10 05:21 PM |
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Why the pilots were so nervous? |
walldude |
Apr-07-10 12:39 AM |
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Nervous? Maybe anxious is a better word |
beckstcw |
Apr-07-10 12:48 AM |
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Ha! "anxious to engage" - yeah. |
donco6 |
Apr-07-10 05:37 AM |
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So anxious to engage they ignored the ROE |
TorchTheWitch |
Apr-07-10 07:28 AM |
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struck me they were just itching to kill :( n/t |
arthritisR_US |
Apr-07-10 12:42 PM |
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Thank You for being a real journalist. During the Vietnam Police Action... |
Indi Guy |
Apr-07-10 01:34 AM |
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Sadness. |
lonestarnot |
Apr-07-10 07:33 AM |
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God bless America |
blindpig |
Apr-07-10 08:24 AM |
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If you think the conservatives busy w/damage control @DU are bad you should see youtube |
Echo In Light |
Apr-07-10 08:28 AM |
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War apologists are sad individuals. |
Rex |
Apr-07-10 12:40 PM |
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Either you're hyperbolizing on purpose, in which case it damages your credibility... |
beckstcw |
Apr-07-10 05:24 PM |
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Here, the arc of the story is disgustingly predictable |
Junkdrawer |
Apr-07-10 07:31 PM |
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+1 |
Moochy |
Apr-07-10 10:43 PM |
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End the Wars |
Moochy |
Apr-07-10 09:39 AM |
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I feel sick. |
HughBeaumont |
Apr-07-10 12:44 PM |
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Kick |
Moochy |
Apr-07-10 04:14 PM |
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I am glad you posted this. I showed my oldest daughter. I couldn't bear to show the video though... |
Bonobo |
Apr-07-10 07:14 PM |
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