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Mon Apr-05-10 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #26 |
| 31. Screen-cap these weapons and post them. n/t |
| -Columbia Journalism Review Reports on Wikileaks Iraq Killing Video Release |
Hissyspit |
Apr-05-10 11:46 AM |
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K&R |
eShirl |
Apr-05-10 11:50 AM |
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CNN, Fox News, MSNBC...anybody home? |
Flaneur |
Apr-05-10 11:53 AM |
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Amy and Thom are reporting it. We really need to support these two. |
EFerrari |
Apr-05-10 12:55 PM |
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K&R |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-05-10 11:53 AM |
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Dupe. |
Flaneur |
Apr-05-10 11:55 AM |
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rocket launcher, camera, they look the same. |
Lost4words |
Apr-05-10 12:06 PM |
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There were weapons on scene. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 12:09 PM |
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were the choppers shot at? Aimed at? |
Lost4words |
Apr-05-10 12:11 PM |
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This was in July 2007 during the surge - Rustamiyah, one of the hot spots. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 12:15 PM |
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so its ok then? you approve? our forces can do no wrong? |
Lost4words |
Apr-05-10 12:22 PM |
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No need to ascribe positions to me that I didn't state. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 12:37 PM |
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By the book? Didn't the book tell them to capture and |
kas125 |
Apr-06-10 12:26 AM |
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The mini van collecting the wounded was not a legitimate target. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-05-10 12:33 PM |
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The soldiers were very intent on hitting the van because they believed it was scrubbing the area. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 12:38 PM |
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So, in your view, ambulances are legitimate targets? |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-05-10 12:54 PM |
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That was not an ambulance. n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:04 PM |
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It was a conveyance being used to transport injured civilians to a hospital. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-05-10 01:09 PM |
#37 |
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The soldiers were very intent on hitting the van because they believed it was scrubbing the area. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:13 PM |
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It was innocent Iraqi civilians trying to save the life on one of their own. n/t |
Subdivisions |
Apr-05-10 01:14 PM |
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It was not apparent on the ground that that was so. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:16 PM |
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The persons responsible were watching the same events we just saw. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-05-10 01:25 PM |
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Why your fixation with "scrubbing the area"? |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-05-10 01:18 PM |
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"6 or 7 people with AK-47s" is not "6 or 7 AK-47's". n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:28 PM |
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THERE ARE NO AK-47s IN THAT FUCKING VIDEO - ANYWHERE! n/t |
Subdivisions |
Apr-05-10 01:30 PM |
#57 |
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You are incorrect. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:31 PM |
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No, you are incorrect. And don't tell me how to fucking post my commentary. n/t |
Subdivisions |
Apr-05-10 01:32 PM |
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Polite descriptions of your rule-breaking are allowed by the rules. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:34 PM |
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You were wrong about the RPG. Your opinion is now suspect. n/t |
Subdivisions |
Apr-05-10 01:35 PM |
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You are wrong about who the journalists are. You have not admitted that yet. n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:36 PM |
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This jackass tried this shit last night, too. |
Greyhound |
Apr-06-10 02:28 PM |
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There appears to be one weapon - maybe. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-05-10 01:35 PM |
#69 |
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I'm looking at two people with weapons. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:39 PM |
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Camera equipment - tripods. n/t |
Subdivisions |
Apr-05-10 01:40 PM |
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Not journalists. Those people are not journalists. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:43 PM |
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How do you know that those men were not hired to help the journalists |
Subdivisions |
Apr-05-10 01:47 PM |
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There is no camera tripod that long. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:49 PM |
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Apr-05-10 01:51 PM |
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Prove it was an RPG or admit you are wrong. |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 04:53 PM |
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A helicopter can kill people with 30mm before they can hear or see it. |
Pavulon |
Apr-05-10 05:44 PM |
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Sure, it's possible. |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 05:54 PM |
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The requested people to photograph the scene. and weapons |
Pavulon |
Apr-05-10 06:06 PM |
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It's not that simple. |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 06:35 PM |
#163 |
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Having sat through that class. It is not that clear |
Pavulon |
Apr-05-10 06:56 PM |
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"There is no camera tripod that long." lol |
dbmk |
Apr-06-10 11:08 AM |
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I have never seen a camera tripod with.... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-06-10 01:52 AM |
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I could believe that a reasonable person might conclude that at least one weapon was present. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-05-10 01:45 PM |
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And then, what about that building? My god, they saw two people walking in |
EFerrari |
Apr-05-10 02:51 PM |
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Or RPGs. |
Warren Stupidity |
Apr-06-10 06:55 AM |
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in one of the most dangerous cities on Earth.... |
mike_c |
Apr-05-10 12:16 PM |
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We don't have the full story yet. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 12:19 PM |
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or they were walking to lunch, you saw it you heard it, why are you trying to justify? |
Lost4words |
Apr-05-10 12:23 PM |
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Apr-05-10 12:25 PM |
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You really need to stop personally attacking me. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:04 PM |
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Holly Smoke! nt |
Lost4words |
Apr-05-10 01:32 PM |
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actually, we do have the full story.... |
mike_c |
Apr-05-10 12:29 PM |
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Are we even sure that was a rifle? When I saw it, I thought it could |
Subdivisions |
Apr-05-10 12:30 PM |
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that's the impression I got-- a rifle, I mean-- but as you say... |
mike_c |
Apr-05-10 12:34 PM |
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No, we do not. There's another helicopter video out there at the very least. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 12:36 PM |
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Screen-cap the automatic weapons and post them here. And show proof that |
Subdivisions |
Apr-05-10 12:39 PM |
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Offensive maneuver by the American military. n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 12:43 PM |
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Well, you at least got that one right. It was indeed offensive. n/t |
Subdivisions |
Apr-05-10 12:45 PM |
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the lies ARE the full story-- what more do you need? |
mike_c |
Apr-05-10 12:45 PM |
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There was no intent to kill "journalists," so there is no murder. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:18 PM |
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I am rather sure they were |
dbmk |
Apr-06-10 11:17 AM |
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There is no reason to trust anything from the military. |
PufPuf23 |
Apr-05-10 12:47 PM |
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The RPG was not a camera. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:13 PM |
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That's NOT and RPG! It's a fucking Vespa or scooter. You can see that |
Subdivisions |
Apr-05-10 01:20 PM |
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Damn it, you're right. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:27 PM |
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No it's NOT! It's a goddamned camera tripod. They are a photojournalist |
Subdivisions |
Apr-05-10 01:29 PM |
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The journalists are clearly identified in the video. That's not them. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:32 PM |
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You're stretching. |
Raineyb |
Apr-05-10 02:15 PM |
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Thats not an RPG. I sure wish I had your internet skills and time.nt |
PufPuf23 |
Apr-05-10 01:24 PM |
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Yes, I see that now. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:29 PM |
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are you serious?-- that's no weapon.... |
mike_c |
Apr-05-10 01:26 PM |
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Yes, I see that now. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:30 PM |
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I believe you are at least partly mistaken.... |
mike_c |
Apr-05-10 01:55 PM |
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Additional info from an Agence France-Presse photographer |
suffragette |
Apr-05-10 02:33 PM |
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Well, we do have the full story, according the report from the military. |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-05-10 02:26 PM |
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Please show how you know this. Also, it looks as if you are |
Subdivisions |
Apr-05-10 12:21 PM |
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Done with the personal attacks? |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 12:42 PM |
#26 |
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Screen-cap these weapons and post them. n/t |
Subdivisions |
Apr-05-10 12:51 PM |
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OK. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:11 PM |
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They're photographers. That's a camera tripod. n/t |
Subdivisions |
Apr-05-10 01:13 PM |
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The video makes it clear it's an RPG. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:15 PM |
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Sorry, it's not an 'RPG" |
Mimosa |
Apr-05-10 04:59 PM |
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Apr-05-10 01:31 PM |
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"The soldiers verify weapons"-- they were LYING, for pete's sake.... |
mike_c |
Apr-05-10 01:35 PM |
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You have no reason to say they are lying during the engagement. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:37 PM |
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Our guys were tickeled pink over their action, no misteaking that. |
Lost4words |
Apr-05-10 01:45 PM |
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Our soldiers were happy to be killing people they thought would be happy to kill them back. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:51 PM |
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An apology for murder? |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 01:56 PM |
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Murder is a legal term. There's no murder here. n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:58 PM |
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Boy! I am so gland you cleared that up!! |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 02:04 PM |
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You're welcome!! n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 02:10 PM |
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Apology for slaughter. Happy now? It doesn't make your rationalizations sound |
Raineyb |
Apr-05-10 02:17 PM |
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with their arms pointed down, I understand why so many of your responders |
Lost4words |
Apr-05-10 01:57 PM |
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Posts that break DU rules get deleted. n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 01:58 PM |
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I knew you were a rule centric kinda person. |
Lost4words |
Apr-05-10 02:01 PM |
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I have to be. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 02:03 PM |
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Yes, because folks might discover something. |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 02:07 PM |
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How vague of you. n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 02:09 PM |
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Of course! I wouldn't want you to wear out your alert button. |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 02:16 PM |
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Apr-05-10 03:01 PM |
#129 |
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LOL!! "You are the foremost among DU propagandists, Swamp." |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 04:10 PM |
#133 |
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Another excellent example. n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 04:34 PM |
#136 |
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GOOD! Another kick for this thread. |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 04:43 PM |
#138 |
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Why would you think I wouldn't want this thread kicked? |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 04:47 PM |
#139 |
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Prove it was an RPG and they were insurgents or admit you are wrong. |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 05:03 PM |
#145 |
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Prove the soldiers knew any different and deliberately murdered people they knew to be innocent. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 05:12 PM |
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Yes, I see what you did - You answered my question with another fallacy (Straw Man) |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 05:33 PM |
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So you admit that they didn't kill innocents deliberately then? |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 05:43 PM |
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Wtf? |
EFerrari |
Apr-05-10 04:36 PM |
#137 |
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What the fuck indeed? |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 04:47 PM |
#140 |
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You know, I think you may be having a bad day. |
EFerrari |
Apr-05-10 05:02 PM |
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Wow. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 05:06 PM |
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I am here to chew bubble gum and kick propaganda ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum. |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 05:17 PM |
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Not blindly pro-war here. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 05:20 PM |
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I reserve the right to call you on pro-war/Pentagon propaganda anytime I see fit. |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 05:36 PM |
#155 |
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You can do anything you want, and will. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 05:42 PM |
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Ok |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 05:45 PM |
#159 |
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Let me just step in here and welcome you to my ignore dungeon... |
L0oniX |
Apr-05-10 02:27 PM |
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Goodbye, cruel world. n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 03:01 PM |
#128 |
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At least you have the choice when to die. |
Forkboy |
Apr-06-10 02:37 PM |
#181 |
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the country is getting angry and for good reason. |
Lost4words |
Apr-05-10 02:09 PM |
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Doesn't matter if you were there or not. The 'official' version is the only one allowed. n/t |
Subdivisions |
Apr-05-10 02:15 PM |
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Offical or not I prefer the truth. |
Lost4words |
Apr-05-10 02:18 PM |
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there was no threat. |
Lost4words |
Apr-05-10 01:59 PM |
#92 |
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Why were the journalists there then? |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 02:02 PM |
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Journalists have been reporting from the battlefield for centuries. |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 02:06 PM |
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But it wasn't a battlefield before the U.S Soldiers started shooting, right? |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 02:11 PM |
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Red Herring |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 02:17 PM |
#110 |
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LOL! |
Rex |
Apr-06-10 01:49 AM |
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thats such silly logic I cant believe you posted it. |
Lost4words |
Apr-05-10 02:19 PM |
#114 |
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Because that's their job? |
EFerrari |
Apr-05-10 02:36 PM |
#122 |
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Yes, it is their job. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 03:03 PM |
#130 |
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That's right. Rules of engagement should take care of most of that. |
EFerrari |
Apr-05-10 03:06 PM |
#132 |
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Perhaps they were troublesome reporters. |
formercia |
Apr-06-10 10:08 AM |
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This are key questions |
autorank |
Apr-06-10 02:10 PM |
#178 |
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The military already issued a report on this tragedy two years ago. |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-05-10 02:54 PM |
#126 |
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Please document the Pat Tillman information, and I'm serious. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 03:04 PM |
#131 |
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It was in the |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-05-10 04:28 PM |
#134 |
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Thank you. |
Bolo Boffin |
Apr-05-10 04:34 PM |
#135 |
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You're welcome ~ |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-05-10 04:52 PM |
#141 |
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You keep saying that as if Iraqis have no right to protect |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-05-10 01:58 PM |
#89 |
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I Love You! |
Lost4words |
Apr-05-10 02:03 PM |
#97 |
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Did you see the women on the rooftops? |
EFerrari |
Apr-05-10 02:27 PM |
#119 |
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No, I didn't. I just watched the shorter version though. |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-05-10 02:58 PM |
#127 |
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+1 |
Rex |
Apr-06-10 02:44 AM |
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Still trying to justify this blatant slaughter, I see. |
Greyhound |
Apr-06-10 02:23 PM |
#179 |
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BBC link here: |
Heidi |
Apr-05-10 01:46 PM |
#80 |
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K&R. nt |
OnyxCollie |
Apr-05-10 12:11 PM |
#7 |
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k/r |
Echo In Light |
Apr-05-10 12:15 PM |
#10 |
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K&R. nt |
babylonsister |
Apr-05-10 12:19 PM |
#13 |
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K&R |
EFerrari |
Apr-05-10 12:52 PM |
#32 |
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oi! |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 01:30 PM |
#56 |
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Not yet but I'm about to. Brb. |
EFerrari |
Apr-05-10 01:31 PM |
#59 |
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thanks |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 01:34 PM |
#66 |
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words cannot convey, you must watch and listen! |
Lost4words |
Apr-05-10 01:38 PM |
#72 |
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ok |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 01:39 PM |
#74 |
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Don't watch it. Yes, it shows a group of people getting killed, |
EFerrari |
Apr-05-10 01:43 PM |
#77 |
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Too late, but thanks anyway. |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 01:57 PM |
#88 |
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I watched the long version. |
EFerrari |
Apr-05-10 02:21 PM |
#115 |
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I wasn't going to because I knew I would get pissed... |
walldude |
Apr-05-10 02:42 PM |
#123 |
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My anger very quickly turned into sadness. |
EFerrari |
Apr-05-10 02:45 PM |
#124 |
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Will wonders never cease? |
Mimosa |
Apr-05-10 05:10 PM |
#147 |
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Let's mark the calendar. |
EFerrari |
Apr-06-10 12:15 AM |
#165 |
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How can you say dont watch it? People have to be aware. |
Lost4words |
Apr-05-10 02:12 PM |
#105 |
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Because the poster specifically said he didn't want to see people being killed. |
EFerrari |
Apr-05-10 02:19 PM |
#113 |
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OH EXCAUSE ME! Its time many woke up! Sorry for the mistake! |
Lost4words |
Apr-05-10 02:23 PM |
#116 |
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Do you talk to your mother with that mouth? I hope not. |
EFerrari |
Apr-05-10 02:24 PM |
#117 |
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K&R |
amborin |
Apr-05-10 01:14 PM |
#43 |
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Namir Noor-Eldeen and Saeed Chmagh - from a Reuters blog |
suffragette |
Apr-05-10 02:00 PM |
#93 |
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I am so sorry, He was a HUMAN BEING just like me. |
Lost4words |
Apr-05-10 02:15 PM |
#108 |
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Looks like the military confiscated the photographer's cameras |
suffragette |
Apr-05-10 05:11 PM |
#148 |
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OMFG. So, not only did they know that those were cameras, not RPGs |
EFerrari |
Apr-06-10 05:20 AM |
#172 |
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And they had on-the-ground evidence from these that none were insurgents |
suffragette |
Apr-06-10 09:47 AM |
#174 |
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HEY MSM CAN WE COVER BOTH THESE STINKINGLOUSY WARS NOW??? |
Mari333 |
Apr-05-10 05:11 PM |
#149 |
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Hey Hiss... Did You Check This One Out ??? |
WillyT |
Apr-05-10 05:23 PM |
#153 |
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From Wikileaks, just now: |
Hissyspit |
Apr-06-10 01:23 AM |
#168 |
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"See him from the brad".."bushmaster" the one he is telling to take pictures |
Pavulon |
Apr-05-10 06:04 PM |
#161 |
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Yeah warcrimes are pathetic, cowards always hide behind government red tape. |
Rex |
Apr-06-10 12:29 AM |
#167 |
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