| 86. Pics or it didn't happen. |
| -Anybody see that History Channel show about the 3D Shroud of Turin image? |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-04-10 03:20 PM |
#0 |
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watched but was busy cooking and doing dishes |
KILL THE WISE ONE |
Apr-04-10 03:24 PM |
#1 |
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The subtext though was how such a 3D-renderable image was created |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-04-10 03:35 PM |
#9 |
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IIRC, it was determined at least a decade ago that the cloth iteslf was made |
old mark |
Apr-05-10 04:30 AM |
#148 |
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Actually, that's in question, now, too. |
Kalyke |
Apr-05-10 12:44 PM |
#166 |
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Just steal the fucking thing and burn it. No more "controversy". |
old mark |
Apr-05-10 03:37 PM |
#175 |
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Yeah, because when I'm sure I'm right, the first thing I want to do is destroy any evidence. |
11 Bravo |
Apr-05-10 03:41 PM |
#176 |
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Yep, and fire up the bulldozers |
pipoman |
Apr-05-10 09:58 PM |
#195 |
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Look the "shroud" is a fucking carnival attraction made up to impress ignorant peasants. |
old mark |
Apr-06-10 07:09 PM |
#209 |
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Stopped watching the "History" channel years ago |
Hugabear |
Apr-04-10 03:27 PM |
#2 |
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bigfoot is real |
KILL THE WISE ONE |
Apr-04-10 03:43 PM |
#18 |
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mmmmmmmkay.... |
Hugabear |
Apr-04-10 03:49 PM |
#24 |
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They are exceptionally wily prey |
KILL THE WISE ONE |
Apr-04-10 03:56 PM |
#32 |
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I cannot believe something for which there is no evidence whatsoever |
Hugabear |
Apr-04-10 04:02 PM |
#38 |
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your no fun, bring your camping gear and we can go hunt one for the july 4th |
KILL THE WISE ONE |
Apr-04-10 04:48 PM |
#64 |
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Here ya go... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Apr-04-10 09:46 PM |
#129 |
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And whenever one dies, their family buries it in the earth very very |
truedelphi |
Apr-04-10 09:13 PM |
#123 |
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well, actually, there is some scientific evidence for it |
semillama |
Apr-05-10 10:12 AM |
#160 |
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We call it the Hitler Channel. |
MUAD_DIB |
Apr-05-10 10:04 PM |
#197 |
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It's been resolved |
Birthmark |
Apr-04-10 03:28 PM |
#3 |
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+1 |
HuckleB |
Apr-04-10 08:02 PM |
#116 |
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Ditto. |
Greybnk48 |
Apr-04-10 09:04 PM |
#121 |
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Every objective, scientific test ever done on the Shroud of Turin shows it's a Medieval forgery. |
baldguy |
Apr-04-10 03:29 PM |
#4 |
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And also the weave wasn't invented for some 200 years after his death. |
RC |
Apr-04-10 03:41 PM |
#14 |
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really ? Who invented that weave? |
zeemike |
Apr-04-10 05:12 PM |
#73 |
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The person who created the Shroud confessed. |
alfredo |
Apr-04-10 06:15 PM |
#99 |
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There are all kinds of responses I could give to that |
zeemike |
Apr-04-10 08:56 PM |
#119 |
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Get some theatrical makeup, Cover your face with it. Now |
alfredo |
Apr-04-10 09:24 PM |
#125 |
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And it would look nothing like a person |
zeemike |
Apr-04-10 09:36 PM |
#127 |
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The man who made it confessed. Around that time |
alfredo |
Apr-04-10 10:38 PM |
#134 |
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Rome was not trying to insult the Jews... |
zeemike |
Apr-04-10 11:06 PM |
#136 |
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How could it have appeared in 14th century Italy and |
alfredo |
Apr-04-10 11:34 PM |
#138 |
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There are a couple of pictorial descriptions of it |
WolverineDG |
Apr-04-10 11:47 PM |
#139 |
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Speculation is fun, this one has been refuted for |
alfredo |
Apr-05-10 12:32 AM |
#142 |
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But how did he manage to create a 3D image on a flat surface? nt |
WolverineDG |
Apr-05-10 09:07 AM |
#154 |
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What do you mean by a 3D image on a flat surface? |
alfredo |
Apr-05-10 10:58 AM |
#162 |
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The "miracle" isn't the fact that 3D info is encoded in a 2D image. |
baldguy |
Apr-05-10 04:29 PM |
#183 |
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I'm still amazed that people see that grotesque painting |
alfredo |
Apr-05-10 05:13 PM |
#185 |
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actually, it appears the artist confessed to his predecessor |
WolverineDG |
Apr-05-10 03:49 PM |
#178 |
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Well lets look at it this way. |
zeemike |
Apr-05-10 06:54 AM |
#151 |
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They swaddled the body. A separate cloth is used for the head. |
alfredo |
Apr-05-10 11:27 AM |
#164 |
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The body was put in a rich mans tomb. |
zeemike |
Apr-05-10 12:35 PM |
#165 |
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Why would they abandon Jewish burial customs? Jews are |
alfredo |
Apr-05-10 05:10 PM |
#184 |
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And is not a part of that burial gown a strip of cloth that covers the |
zeemike |
Apr-05-10 07:19 PM |
#189 |
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We do know the religious laws of the time. We know a lot |
alfredo |
Apr-05-10 08:21 PM |
#190 |
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"science should not be making guesses based on scant evidence" |
sybylla |
Apr-06-10 07:53 AM |
#203 |
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And how much of the tones of documents survived. |
zeemike |
Apr-06-10 09:12 AM |
#205 |
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Jesus did NOT wear a weave! YOU TAKE THAT BACK! |
salguine |
Apr-04-10 06:03 PM |
#95 |
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Lol ! |
TheDebbieDee |
Apr-04-10 06:26 PM |
#102 |
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really laughing out loud |
mrs_p |
Apr-04-10 09:19 PM |
#124 |
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Facts do not matter to those who cling to "faith" |
Hugabear |
Apr-04-10 03:52 PM |
#27 |
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How was it done? |
rug |
Apr-04-10 03:53 PM |
#29 |
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It wasn't made by wrapping a dead body with that cloth, that's for sure. |
baldguy |
Apr-04-10 04:12 PM |
#44 |
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OK. But forgery usually means it was actually forged. |
rug |
Apr-04-10 04:19 PM |
#51 |
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you probably should have watched that program |
zeemike |
Apr-04-10 05:16 PM |
#78 |
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Let me guess - it was a "miracle", right? |
baldguy |
Apr-04-10 06:52 PM |
#104 |
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One man's miracle is another mans enigmatic phenomenon. |
zeemike |
Apr-04-10 09:02 PM |
#120 |
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One man's venerated relic is another man's con job. |
baldguy |
Apr-05-10 05:30 AM |
#150 |
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Could be, but what a supernatural mind he must have had for that time... |
demosincebirth |
Apr-04-10 03:54 PM |
#30 |
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ALL the scientists who examined it said so - PAINT PIGMENTS and cloth made in 1000 AD or so... |
TankLV |
Apr-04-10 04:34 PM |
#58 |
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You are totally wrong. You just made that up. Right? |
demosincebirth |
Apr-04-10 04:47 PM |
#63 |
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Bullshit my "friend" - ALL the scientists who examined it PROVED it to be a FAKE. |
TankLV |
Apr-04-10 05:14 PM |
#75 |
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give me a reputable link that shows that the Vatican says its fake. |
demosincebirth |
Apr-04-10 09:59 PM |
#131 |
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The Vatican. Always reliable when it comes to the truth. |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-05-10 02:42 AM |
#143 |
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Red ochre and vermillion, in a collagen tempera medium... |
SidDithers |
Apr-04-10 06:14 PM |
#98 |
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Actually, the Vatican hasn't said yay or nay |
WolverineDG |
Apr-04-10 07:39 PM |
#113 |
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so all the scientists in the documentary were lying? |
dionysus |
Apr-06-10 09:52 AM |
#207 |
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Not to be antagonistic, but WTF? |
Greyhound |
Apr-05-10 02:54 AM |
#145 |
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And all test that lend doubt to that is not objective. |
zeemike |
Apr-04-10 05:08 PM |
#71 |
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and every self-respecting church |
awoke_in_2003 |
Apr-04-10 09:48 PM |
#130 |
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I Remember This Being Put To Bed Like A Decade Ago |
ChoppinBroccoli |
Apr-04-10 11:15 PM |
#137 |
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I can't remember where I saw it, some special probably 5-10 years ago, |
Better Today |
Apr-04-10 03:30 PM |
#5 |
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I thought that there was a scientific conclusion made that the shroud |
Cleita |
Apr-04-10 03:30 PM |
#6 |
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I think there was a carbon-dating study that produced that result |
Jackpine Radical |
Apr-04-10 03:33 PM |
#8 |
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Well they discussed that |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-04-10 03:39 PM |
#12 |
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I think the test was from the corner singed by fire |
Tom Rinaldo |
Apr-04-10 03:52 PM |
#28 |
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Contaminates? also repaired |
cayanne |
Apr-04-10 07:06 PM |
#106 |
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A patch. Right, that was it. Thanks |
Tom Rinaldo |
Apr-04-10 07:21 PM |
#111 |
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It's the History Channel; they would *NEVER* piss off the majority of their audience... |
Tesha |
Apr-04-10 05:06 PM |
#70 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-04-10 03:48 PM |
#23 |
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Two microfibers is pretty thin. |
rug |
Apr-04-10 03:33 PM |
#7 |
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Was that the depth of the image? |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-04-10 03:45 PM |
#21 |
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Yes. They said if you shaved it with a razor the entire image would disappear. |
rug |
Apr-04-10 03:51 PM |
#26 |
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Some form of radiation? |
demosincebirth |
Apr-04-10 03:57 PM |
#33 |
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I just heard them mention light. |
rug |
Apr-04-10 04:05 PM |
#41 |
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Can't say it here, it'll start a war! |
demosincebirth |
Apr-04-10 04:12 PM |
#43 |
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Mmmm, probably similar to when that guy said "Let there be light" or something n/t |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-04-10 04:13 PM |
#45 |
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at the time it was made, the only thing that comes to mind is a lightning strike. |
KittyWampus |
Apr-04-10 04:16 PM |
#48 |
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Now *that* is an interesting comment |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-04-10 04:23 PM |
#53 |
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Becoming a God |
cayanne |
Apr-04-10 07:11 PM |
#108 |
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WRONG! It has been PROVEN to be PAINT already!!! |
TankLV |
Apr-04-10 04:35 PM |
#59 |
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Why, thank you for providing a link to accompany your exclamation points. |
rug |
Apr-04-10 04:50 PM |
#66 |
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exclamation points are not proof unless there's also some 11's in the mix |
WolverineDG |
Apr-04-10 04:57 PM |
#68 |
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Wrong. Stop spreading the LIES. |
TankLV |
Apr-04-10 05:15 PM |
#77 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-04-10 05:43 PM |
#89 |
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Not according to this |
WolverineDG |
Apr-04-10 10:05 PM |
#133 |
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Oh, yeah, Wikipedia. Truly a definitive source for truth. Just like the Vatican. |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-05-10 02:50 AM |
#144 |
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God does not have to respond to childish demands for command performances |
WolverineDG |
Apr-05-10 09:10 AM |
#155 |
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"Malcontents"? Whatever. Tell it to Giordano Bruno. |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-05-10 11:27 AM |
#163 |
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Jump to conclusions much? |
WolverineDG |
Apr-05-10 03:53 PM |
#180 |
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RAR!!11!!1!!! |
dionysus |
Apr-06-10 09:50 AM |
#206 |
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You probably don't want to use wiki as a source for any religious debates. |
Greyhound |
Apr-05-10 04:28 AM |
#147 |
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well, it's a starting point |
WolverineDG |
Apr-05-10 09:11 AM |
#156 |
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That's the point, it doesn't. If you actually read the cites the crazy people used, |
Greyhound |
Apr-05-10 02:13 PM |
#173 |
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and then there are studies that show it's not paint |
WolverineDG |
Apr-05-10 03:24 PM |
#174 |
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No, there aren't. At least none from any reputable source. You didn't read the citation, did you? n/... |
Greyhound |
Apr-05-10 04:22 PM |
#182 |
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I saw the show |
WolverineDG |
Apr-05-10 09:51 PM |
#193 |
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No, read the study. There's a link to it upthread. n/t |
Greyhound |
Apr-05-10 11:34 PM |
#199 |
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Sorry, not talking to someone who didn't watch the show nt |
WolverineDG |
Apr-06-10 06:54 AM |
#201 |
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Red ochre and vermillion in a collagen tempera medium... |
SidDithers |
Apr-04-10 06:15 PM |
#100 |
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That conclusion appears to be disputed. |
rug |
Apr-04-10 07:28 PM |
#112 |
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No it has not nt |
cayanne |
Apr-04-10 07:15 PM |
#110 |
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but don't let that stand in the way of selling a tv show to people who desperately |
piratefish08 |
Apr-05-10 06:56 AM |
#152 |
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Saw an interesting one recently suggesting Da Vinci did it with a |
theophilus |
Apr-04-10 03:36 PM |
#10 |
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That's the one I saw, it also mentioned IIRC that the human face wouldn't |
Better Today |
Apr-04-10 03:39 PM |
#11 |
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I didn't see that but it sounds fascinating |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-04-10 03:42 PM |
#17 |
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The body proportions are all wrong. |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-04-10 03:42 PM |
#16 |
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I did notice that, plus I noticed that they ignored it, too n/t |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-04-10 03:43 PM |
#19 |
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No, the distortions were from the body being bound up |
cayanne |
Apr-04-10 07:14 PM |
#109 |
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For a mortal, of course. But Jesus was not just another mortal |
kenny blankenship |
Apr-04-10 04:00 PM |
#35 |
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Good point |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-04-10 04:03 PM |
#39 |
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if it is an image taken via light source, perhaps distortion due to angle while subject moved? |
KittyWampus |
Apr-04-10 04:17 PM |
#49 |
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There is a theory |
Caretha |
Apr-04-10 05:21 PM |
#84 |
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But his mortal body WAS just another mortal body. |
Beartracks |
Apr-04-10 04:37 PM |
#60 |
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That's not quite true. At the instant of his resurrection, his body became divine |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-04-10 04:54 PM |
#67 |
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OK. Good point. n/t |
Beartracks |
Apr-04-10 05:11 PM |
#72 |
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Pics or it didn't happen. |
Onceuponalife |
Apr-04-10 05:33 PM |
#86 |
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You forgot the "sarcasm" thingy... |
TankLV |
Apr-04-10 04:37 PM |
#61 |
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Sarcasm tags take all the fun out of it |
kenny blankenship |
Apr-04-10 04:49 PM |
#65 |
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Yes, he was |
Onceuponalife |
Apr-04-10 05:31 PM |
#85 |
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He had extra long legs from all that Dino ridin'! |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-05-10 12:23 AM |
#141 |
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But they're completely in line with western art at the time. |
Marr |
Apr-04-10 09:09 PM |
#122 |
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Yes and I was impressed with the technology and creativity that will be followed by many other |
jody |
Apr-04-10 03:40 PM |
#13 |
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It's been carbon dated to the middle ages. |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-04-10 03:42 PM |
#15 |
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Carbon dating has it only going back to the middle ages. This was solved several years |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-04-10 03:44 PM |
#20 |
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Here's a link to the Da Vinci thingy..... |
theophilus |
Apr-04-10 03:47 PM |
#22 |
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Thanks, will check it out |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-04-10 04:13 PM |
#46 |
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Whether it is the image of Jesus or not, I'm fascinated |
finecraft |
Apr-04-10 03:50 PM |
#25 |
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Me too, That's where I'm coming from. |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-04-10 03:58 PM |
#34 |
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but was it serendipity or did they know what they were doing? |
eShirl |
Apr-04-10 04:20 PM |
#52 |
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I found it very fascinating, myself. |
calimary |
Apr-04-10 10:38 PM |
#135 |
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Ditto. Didn't watch the show, though. |
GreenPartyVoter |
Apr-05-10 07:03 PM |
#188 |
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Two different carbon datings have shown that the shroud is not old enough |
Bitwit1234 |
Apr-04-10 03:54 PM |
#31 |
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I can tell you what the "faithful" probably think |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-04-10 04:01 PM |
#36 |
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But isn't God also trying to fool the faithful? |
Onceuponalife |
Apr-04-10 05:36 PM |
#88 |
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Well, considering that I think God is bipolar... |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-04-10 05:51 PM |
#92 |
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The show's just coming on again on the History Channel n/t |
finecraft |
Apr-04-10 04:01 PM |
#37 |
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Without HC what would anyone know about Atlantis, or flying saucers or the Shroud of Turin? |
kenny blankenship |
Apr-04-10 04:11 PM |
#42 |
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I knew plenty about all of those things before HC |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-04-10 04:14 PM |
#47 |
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Leonard Nimoy told me about them on "In Search Of" |
csziggy |
Apr-04-10 04:32 PM |
#57 |
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Like the "Face on Mars" and Nostradamus' "predictions" |
AzNick |
Apr-04-10 04:04 PM |
#40 |
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False analogies |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-04-10 04:18 PM |
#50 |
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Yep I LOVED the WHITE nordic Jesus that emerged |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-04-10 04:25 PM |
#54 |
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Nordic? I didn't get that n/t |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-04-10 04:27 PM |
#55 |
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they haven't done the reveal yet |
WolverineDG |
Apr-04-10 05:48 PM |
#91 |
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Yes - and I was agast - what they try to spew is 180 degrees opposite from the truth. |
TankLV |
Apr-04-10 04:31 PM |
#56 |
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It's interesting so far |
WolverineDG |
Apr-04-10 04:44 PM |
#62 |
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Seems that some people can't figure out WHY someone would make a fake. |
DawgHouse |
Apr-04-10 05:00 PM |
#69 |
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In the Middle Ages, all Cathredals needed a religious relic |
WeDidIt |
Apr-04-10 05:14 PM |
#74 |
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Especially that skull of John the Baptist when he was 12 years old. *THAT* was great one. (NT) |
Tesha |
Apr-04-10 05:15 PM |
#76 |
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Exactly - big tourist attractions to go along with the next BIG CATHEDRAL., |
TankLV |
Apr-04-10 05:17 PM |
#81 |
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And Turin had a huge draw with the Shroud of Christ. |
WeDidIt |
Apr-04-10 05:19 PM |
#82 |
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Chartres had the Holy Foreskin of Jesus. Now that's a draw. |
kenny blankenship |
Apr-04-10 06:44 PM |
#103 |
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there were also many claimed Jesus shrouds |
TorchTheWitch |
Apr-05-10 03:37 AM |
#146 |
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"I seek the Holy Grail!" |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-05-10 03:53 PM |
#179 |
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raising money = good reason to create a fake relic |
WolverineDG |
Apr-04-10 05:47 PM |
#90 |
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I watched and read about it |
get the red out |
Apr-04-10 05:17 PM |
#79 |
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Red Ochre |
vogonity |
Apr-04-10 05:17 PM |
#80 |
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Seemed like a load of bullshit to me. Try this: put some paint |
Vickers |
Apr-04-10 05:19 PM |
#83 |
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I watched it. It was pretty interesting. |
Joanne98 |
Apr-04-10 05:35 PM |
#87 |
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Rather than watch any so called news channel today |
katmondoo |
Apr-04-10 05:56 PM |
#93 |
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It's been playing this weekend ad nauseum |
Th1onein |
Apr-04-10 05:57 PM |
#94 |
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Well, I would imagine that with crucifixion being a common form of punishment for the Romans to use, |
notadmblnd |
Apr-04-10 06:03 PM |
#96 |
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The Shroud isn't Jesus... |
SidDithers |
Apr-04-10 06:06 PM |
#97 |
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I think the whole story is nothing more than myth. |
Xicano |
Apr-04-10 06:22 PM |
#101 |
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Since it is quite obviously drawn the materials questions are weird to me |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Apr-04-10 06:56 PM |
#105 |
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OK, let me try to clearly make one point that they asserted on the show |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-04-10 07:06 PM |
#107 |
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Cover face in pigment. Press face into linen |
vogonity |
Apr-04-10 07:43 PM |
#114 |
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And that image, created by paint on the face, |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-04-10 07:52 PM |
#115 |
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So you put stuff on your face |
Confusious |
Apr-04-10 09:59 PM |
#132 |
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The episode they did on Lincoln was pretty interesting too. n/t |
tammywammy |
Apr-04-10 08:03 PM |
#117 |
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No. Luckily, we don't bother to pay for cable. |
HuckleB |
Apr-04-10 08:05 PM |
#118 |
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Is it Easter already? |
Iggo |
Apr-04-10 09:30 PM |
#126 |
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I always thought the Shroud of Turin was Mick Fleetwood |
devilgrrl |
Apr-04-10 09:44 PM |
#128 |
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If there's one thing more phony than the Shroud of Turin... |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Apr-04-10 11:50 PM |
#140 |
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FWIW, the temples of some of the Greek gods had devices by which |
old mark |
Apr-05-10 04:41 AM |
#149 |
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it would be a simple thing to stop the debate |
RainDog |
Apr-05-10 07:00 AM |
#153 |
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I watched it, but even if it is a real shroud and all, how many men looked like that back then? |
bamacrat |
Apr-05-10 09:24 AM |
#157 |
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it was a facinating show, I wish some of the "experts" posting here had watched it |
G_j |
Apr-05-10 09:43 AM |
#158 |
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because these "experts" know that some forger back in the Middle Ages |
WolverineDG |
Apr-05-10 10:04 AM |
#159 |
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when someone appears to have a hostile attitude, |
G_j |
Apr-05-10 10:22 AM |
#161 |
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Apr-05-10 01:08 PM |
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just more snark |
G_j |
Apr-05-10 01:11 PM |
#169 |
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No, I got that. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Apr-05-10 01:15 PM |
#170 |
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yea, and some anonymous person on the internet told me that, without a link |
G_j |
Apr-05-10 09:07 PM |
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Apr-05-10 04:04 PM |
#181 |
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This thread's gotten into a tizzy for no reason. |
Kalyke |
Apr-05-10 01:05 PM |
#167 |
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The Flat Earth Society strikes again!! |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-05-10 01:16 PM |
#171 |
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"...a tooth from the jaw of St. Jerome!" |
saltpoint |
Apr-05-10 09:51 PM |
#194 |
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"... curses, pardons, and selling the sexual favors of nuns." |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-06-10 02:46 AM |
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Wul goddurn! I'll take half a dozen of everything! |
saltpoint |
Apr-06-10 07:47 PM |
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In a related story... |
spinbaby |
Apr-05-10 01:33 PM |
#172 |
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I know this must be fascinating to many people. |
timtom |
Apr-05-10 03:46 PM |
#177 |
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... a dependent arising. |
RagAss |
Apr-05-10 06:13 PM |
#186 |
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Possibly a new consideration - it's my understanding that |
hedgehog |
Apr-05-10 06:34 PM |
#187 |
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^ That's true , Hedgehog ^ (And I did watch the program.) |
Mimosa |
Apr-05-10 09:49 PM |
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That's what has me wondering |
WolverineDG |
Apr-05-10 10:01 PM |
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Wake me up when they have a 3D image of noahs ark and Adam & Eve's remains |
951-Riverside |
Apr-05-10 10:09 PM |
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It was resolved. The shroud is a fake. It was conclusively debunked by Carbon-14 dating years ago. |
salguine |
Apr-06-10 07:04 AM |
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A scam claiming to prove the existence of a myth. |
mr blur |
Apr-06-10 08:25 AM |
#204 |
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The Shroud of Turin ........ The original ShamWow |
Stevenmarc |
Apr-06-10 09:57 AM |
#208 |
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