| -Did you see it? |
Skinner |
Apr-01-10 11:26 AM |
#0 |
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yes. it's pretty clear the drilling thing is a feint or |
cali |
Apr-01-10 11:27 AM |
#1 |
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Red Herring? |
Beetwasher |
Apr-01-10 11:28 AM |
# |
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"Rope a dope" strategery |
SusanaMontana41 |
Apr-01-10 03:48 PM |
#152 |
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Yeah, he fooled them by running more of our healthcare through the corporations causing the problem. |
pundaint |
Apr-01-10 08:50 PM |
#194 |
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Very good |
vssmith |
Apr-01-10 09:17 PM |
#196 |
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Think we would have had a better deal under President McCain? |
SusanaMontana41 |
Apr-02-10 01:19 AM |
#214 |
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I call it Rope a Nope |
Solomon |
Apr-02-10 05:03 AM |
# |
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+10. nt. |
druidity33 |
Apr-02-10 05:39 AM |
#224 |
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Bwahahahaha |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-10 06:48 AM |
#226 |
| -
yup, bait and switch |
Lost4words |
Apr-02-10 08:15 AM |
#237 |
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That's how it feels to me, too |
SusanaMontana41 |
Apr-02-10 03:45 PM |
#259 |
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it roped a bunch of dopes here as well |
mkultra |
Apr-02-10 05:12 PM |
#261 |
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I'd say all the things you mentioned. nt |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 11:29 AM |
#8 |
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I think he's calling their bluff, personally. |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 12:10 PM |
#54 |
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Yeah, that's what i thought. I mean, about the leases. nt |
kjones |
Apr-01-10 01:38 PM |
#101 |
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Herring are quite an oily fish, as I recall |
Stinky The Clown |
Apr-01-10 02:19 PM |
#118 |
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How 'bout we call it an ecological reaming? |
pundaint |
Apr-01-10 08:51 PM |
#195 |
| -
Shhh! |
Beetwasher |
Apr-01-10 11:27 AM |
#2 |
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I didn't until you posted it. Thank you for the links. This is indeed |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 11:28 AM |
#3 |
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Sank like a rock in LBN: |
Robb |
Apr-01-10 11:28 AM |
#4 |
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Sorry. I was too busy complaining how he stabbed me in the back. |
Dogmudgeon |
Apr-01-10 11:28 AM |
#5 |
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!! |
Richardo |
Apr-01-10 11:29 AM |
#9 |
| -
Now that was funny. |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 11:30 AM |
#11 |
| -
LOL |
Canuckistanian |
Apr-01-10 03:05 PM |
#141 |
| -
"Hey, Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit outta my hat!" |
Richardo |
Apr-01-10 11:28 AM |
#6 |
| -
I just read this |
G_j |
Apr-01-10 11:29 AM |
#7 |
| -
K&R |
Solly Mack |
Apr-01-10 11:30 AM |
#10 |
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Yes, I was very pleased. I hope they also narrow exemptions from CAFE standards. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Apr-01-10 11:32 AM |
#12 |
| -
That's My Concern, Also |
On the Road |
Apr-02-10 08:00 AM |
#236 |
| -
no I didn't |
Kali |
Apr-01-10 11:32 AM |
#13 |
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Seems to me the economics of petroleum depletion dictates both of these policies |
depakid |
Apr-01-10 11:33 AM |
#14 |
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So you give kudos to Obama for this, right? Dubya certainly didn't do it |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 11:36 AM |
#17 |
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In so far as it's politically and economically what any rational politician would do |
depakid |
Apr-01-10 11:46 AM |
#24 |
| -
Ah, so you're shrugging it off. |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 11:47 AM |
#25 |
| -
Nope- just not jumping up and down on way or another over someone doing their job |
depakid |
Apr-01-10 06:20 PM |
#185 |
| -
I can't see Bush doing that. |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-10 06:57 AM |
#229 |
| -
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! This is peak oil and climate change |
Subdivisions |
Apr-01-10 11:55 AM |
#36 |
| -
Good reasonable analysis, depakid. nt |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-10 06:51 AM |
#228 |
| -
Wish he could do something about the smoke coming out of truck exhaust |
Winterblues |
Apr-01-10 11:33 AM |
#15 |
| -
Educate yourself. |
Ikonoklast |
Apr-01-10 01:30 PM |
#96 |
| -
Doesn't seem to be working very well though does it? |
Winterblues |
Apr-01-10 01:35 PM |
#100 |
| -
Actually, it has been working... |
JuniperLea |
Apr-01-10 01:43 PM |
#105 |
| -
Visible smoke is a violation these days |
Mopar151 |
Apr-01-10 02:20 PM |
#119 |
| -
Are you an Environmental Narc |
freedommachine |
Apr-01-10 02:32 PM |
#122 |
| -
Nope, just a guy who likes engines |
Mopar151 |
Apr-01-10 03:54 PM |
#155 |
| -
Thats what i did to my 1972 Chevy Pickup |
8 track mind |
Apr-01-10 09:36 PM |
#198 |
| -
A real Mopar man |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-10 07:00 AM |
#230 |
| -
Smile when you say that, partner |
Mopar151 |
Apr-02-10 01:22 PM |
#253 |
| -
I know all that. |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-10 02:32 PM |
#258 |
| -
My 1982 Mercedes smokes on startup, |
freedommachine |
Apr-02-10 09:32 AM |
#247 |
| -
It's pretty healthy, then |
Mopar151 |
Apr-02-10 01:32 PM |
#254 |
| -
Where've you been? |
hunter |
Apr-01-10 04:26 PM |
#173 |
| -
DU basically ignored everything that happened yesterday except the drilling part. |
tridim |
Apr-01-10 11:34 AM |
#16 |
| -
DU thrives on controversy. |
Skinner |
Apr-01-10 11:36 AM |
#19 |
| -
Now, if there were only a way to make good news controversial... |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 11:50 AM |
#31 |
| -
I'm workin' on it. |
Skinner |
Apr-01-10 01:24 PM |
#92 |
| -
And a mighty fine job you're doing, too, |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 01:30 PM |
#98 |
| -
I'm sorry, I'm confused - does this news somehow change the fact that we are DRILL BABY DRILL? |
Political Heretic |
Apr-01-10 04:10 PM |
#167 |
| -
Well the Pres still mite have a trick left. If the repubs object strongly enough about the drilling |
rhett o rick |
Apr-02-10 10:24 AM |
#250 |
| -
Oh that would be rich. nt |
Chemisse |
Apr-02-10 05:03 PM |
#260 |
| -
+1000. :) n/t |
OneGrassRoot |
Apr-02-10 05:05 AM |
#223 |
| -
Aren't they already? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Apr-02-10 09:48 AM |
#248 |
| -
Well, obviously there's only ONE acceptable way to bread fried turkey. |
DevonRex |
Apr-02-10 01:41 PM |
#256 |
| -
saw it, liked it, but doesn't make me like off shore drilling any better. |
unapatriciated |
Apr-01-10 03:54 PM |
#154 |
| -
There are a boat load of trolls on DU. |
ChimpersMcSmirkers |
Apr-01-10 09:40 PM |
#199 |
| -
Thanks for posting - it flew under my radar too. |
Kber |
Apr-01-10 11:36 AM |
#18 |
| -
Finally, Obama is doing away with Bush era SUV exemptions. Hat's off Pres O! |
Union Yes |
Apr-01-10 11:38 AM |
#20 |
| -
Edward G Robinson is smiling |
musiclawyer |
Apr-01-10 11:39 AM |
#21 |
| -
Yes, he is |
Laughing Mirror |
Apr-01-10 01:05 PM |
#85 |
| -
Why do increased fuel efficiency standards make Little Caesar smile? |
Greyhound |
Apr-01-10 02:20 PM |
#120 |
| -
I didn't see it on NPR. but knew it would be coming - it isn't a keyed lock its a combination |
bridgit |
Apr-01-10 11:42 AM |
#22 |
| -
heard it on the radio this morning. |
Soylent Brice |
Apr-01-10 11:45 AM |
#23 |
| -
I notice they are quiet about Hilda Solis (Labor Dept. Sec.) too--she's very pro-union. |
blondeatlast |
Apr-01-10 11:47 AM |
#26 |
| -
So maybe Obama is playing 5th dimensional chess or 23 level backgammon or |
Javaman |
Apr-01-10 11:48 AM |
#27 |
| -
Yes, I saw it |
Cirque du So-What |
Apr-01-10 11:48 AM |
#28 |
| -
Too late to R |
Bryn |
Apr-01-10 11:49 AM |
#29 |
| -
So we're supposed to ignore something terrible he did because he did something mildly positive? |
LeftyMom |
Apr-01-10 11:50 AM |
#30 |
| -
Are we to ignore something great he did because of something that might be |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 11:53 AM |
#34 |
| -
Yep, that's what she's saying. |
tridim |
Apr-01-10 11:56 AM |
#40 |
| -
Hey, if you guys want to get shined on, go for it. |
LeftyMom |
Apr-01-10 12:00 PM |
#42 |
| -
. |
Echo In Light |
Apr-01-10 12:03 PM |
#48 |
| -
Yep. Ignore the positive, assume and magnify the negative. nt |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 12:01 PM |
#46 |
| -
the drilling dear, is exceedingly unlikely to ever happen. |
cali |
Apr-01-10 11:56 AM |
#38 |
| -
Correct. nt |
Bobbie Jo |
Apr-01-10 01:06 PM |
#86 |
| -
That's irrational. Once land is open it rarely closes and will get used. |
Go2Peace |
Apr-01-10 02:50 PM |
#130 |
| -
"a 10 mpg increase in less than six years isn't feasible." |
Turborama |
Apr-01-10 12:37 PM |
#65 |
| -
I loved your post. Thank you so much for that information. nt |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 12:41 PM |
#70 |
| -
You're most welcome |
Turborama |
Apr-01-10 12:57 PM |
#81 |
| -
Those cars aren't sold in the US because they don't meet safety specs. |
LeftyMom |
Apr-01-10 01:25 PM |
#93 |
| -
Did you even go to the Chrysler link? |
Turborama |
Apr-01-10 02:17 PM |
#117 |
| -
The cars in that link are all diesel. Which almost no US consumer will consider, |
LeftyMom |
Apr-01-10 02:29 PM |
#121 |
| -
At least 1/4 of all gas stations sell diesel |
tammywammy |
Apr-01-10 02:51 PM |
#131 |
| -
According to this article, in 2007 nearly half of the country's 180,000 fuel stations had diesel |
Turborama |
Apr-02-10 09:35 PM |
#263 |
| -
Shame you didn't go to the GD link as well |
Turborama |
Apr-01-10 09:32 PM |
#197 |
| -
This is the key right here. |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-10 07:20 AM |
#233 |
| -
They also wouldn't consider the seat belt either hunh? This argument against diesel is worn |
uponit7771 |
Apr-02-10 04:58 AM |
#221 |
| -
They will buy |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-10 07:05 AM |
#231 |
| -
I disagree with you. |
Dogtown |
Apr-01-10 01:20 PM |
#90 |
| -
I love rational honesty... |
SkyDaddy7 |
Apr-01-10 05:41 PM |
#181 |
| -
Thanks, SkyDaddy7 |
Dogtown |
Apr-02-10 12:27 PM |
#252 |
| -
We also had the insurance industry back down on their "interpretation" re: Kids w/pre-existing cond. |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-01-10 11:50 AM |
#32 |
| -
One of those threads (you wanted) was created by a shrill bully & was locked after bully was allowed |
Echo In Light |
Apr-01-10 11:56 AM |
#39 |
| -
...and? |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-01-10 01:56 PM |
#110 |
| -
They sneak in the cheerleader meme whenever possible. And cult of personallity |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 01:59 PM |
#112 |
| -
Auh, I see. My one post = "complaining endlessly." Nice reach! |
Echo In Light |
Apr-01-10 02:33 PM |
#123 |
| -
Define "my". |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-01-10 03:40 PM |
#148 |
| -
They have backed down for now, but we still need to fix it. |
unapatriciated |
Apr-01-10 04:03 PM |
#164 |
| -
Still, the administration stood up to them on this, and they backed right down. |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-01-10 04:44 PM |
#174 |
| -
most of us were just pointing out problems we saw in the bill. |
unapatriciated |
Apr-01-10 05:20 PM |
#177 |
| -
Actually, no |
jeff47 |
Apr-01-10 10:27 PM |
#202 |
| -
I did see something about that earlier. |
The_Commonist |
Apr-01-10 11:51 AM |
#33 |
| -
Thank you for this information, Skinner. |
tom_paine |
Apr-01-10 11:55 AM |
#35 |
| -
Sounds like the Obama change train is rolling down the tracks at full speed |
high density |
Apr-01-10 11:56 AM |
#37 |
| -
Jujitsu? |
Gold Metal Flake |
Apr-01-10 11:57 AM |
#41 |
| -
K&R...nt |
SidDithers |
Apr-01-10 12:00 PM |
#43 |
| -
That's pretty much how the President works |
NJmaverick |
Apr-01-10 12:01 PM |
#44 |
| -
When dealing with an obviously accelerating downward trajectory, it is neither sensible, nor |
pundaint |
Apr-01-10 02:40 PM |
#126 |
| -
Wow! Thanks Skinner |
goclark |
Apr-01-10 12:01 PM |
#45 |
| -
Finally something to cheer about ! |
Tailormyst |
Apr-01-10 12:02 PM |
#47 |
| -
... |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 12:13 PM |
#55 |
| -
Hopefully it will continue to go unseen so it sneaks past the thugs. |
xultar |
Apr-01-10 12:04 PM |
#49 |
| -
Another intergalactic chess move :) nt |
newtothegame |
Apr-01-10 12:04 PM |
#50 |
| -
Yes, I saw it in the report yesterday.. |
Cha |
Apr-01-10 12:06 PM |
#51 |
| -
No, darn it. |
jotsy |
Apr-01-10 12:06 PM |
#52 |
| -
It wasn't anywhere that I know of and I had the news on all day. |
EFerrari |
Apr-01-10 12:07 PM |
#53 |
| -
i didn't see it, but the media doesn't seem too interested in reporting good Obama news |
spanone |
Apr-01-10 12:14 PM |
#56 |
| -
I did not hear about that yesterday, no. But, I'm glad to hear it today. |
flvegan |
Apr-01-10 12:14 PM |
#57 |
| -
Chrysler have been making 35 MPG cars on US soil for years but are only selling them abroad |
Turborama |
Apr-01-10 12:15 PM |
#58 |
| -
Big Whoop rethugs asked for 35 mpg in 2007 |
amborin |
Apr-01-10 12:23 PM |
#59 |
| -
exactly the same as Bush asked for in 2007 |
amborin |
Apr-01-10 12:30 PM |
#61 |
| -
You're wrong. From the article: |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 12:38 PM |
#67 |
| -
same goal, just asking they be implemented sooner |
amborin |
Apr-01-10 03:58 PM |
#158 |
| -
The goal of 2020 has been changed to 2016. That's not the same, nt |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 04:25 PM |
#172 |
| -
I noticed that. The fuel efficiency standards are REAL change, right now. |
kestrel91316 |
Apr-01-10 12:29 PM |
#60 |
| -
Well, real change 6 years from now, but it's a positive move |
Tailormyst |
Apr-01-10 12:35 PM |
#62 |
| -
how is it different from Bush's 2007 ruling for 35 mpg? |
amborin |
Apr-01-10 12:37 PM |
#63 |
| -
Happens 4 years earlier, which is good. |
Tailormyst |
Apr-01-10 12:37 PM |
# |
| -
Exactly. nt |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 12:40 PM |
#68 |
| -
political expediency this was a 2007 ruling that 's only now being addressed |
amborin |
Apr-01-10 05:38 PM |
#180 |
| -
duplicate |
amborin |
Apr-01-10 12:37 PM |
#64 |
| -
Can't change CAFE overnight due to the lag time in car development. |
kestrel91316 |
Apr-01-10 12:49 PM |
#74 |
| -
Yup, and as I said its a positive change |
Tailormyst |
Apr-01-10 12:55 PM |
#79 |
| -
can certainly be changed faster than 4 yrs; again, rethugs asked for 35mph in 2007 |
amborin |
Apr-01-10 03:59 PM |
#159 |
| -
I did hear that on the news on NPR again this AM. |
BrklynLiberal |
Apr-01-10 12:37 PM |
#66 |
| -
And sucker them in he did, with style |
DainBramaged |
Apr-01-10 12:41 PM |
#69 |
| -
+1 |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 12:42 PM |
#71 |
| -
Folks need to remember that a 35 mpg CAFE is a big deal. |
Mopar151 |
Apr-01-10 03:42 PM |
#150 |
| -
From the article - "The rules should add costs to new cars and trucks. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-01-10 12:46 PM |
#72 |
| -
The gas savings are triple that of the added cost. nt |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 12:52 PM |
#76 |
| -
You didn't get my point. Also, |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-01-10 05:18 PM |
#176 |
| -
You do have a valid point. |
DevonRex |
Apr-02-10 09:25 AM |
#246 |
| -
I remember that we had cars in the 60's /70's that got 42mpg . . . and many cars now do!! |
defendandprotect |
Apr-01-10 12:48 PM |
#73 |
| -
I hope you are right but there will be no climate bill. |
harun |
Apr-01-10 12:52 PM |
#75 |
| -
Look! It's Carnac the Magnificent!!!! |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 12:57 PM |
#82 |
| -
Nunc id vides, nunc ne vides ... nt |
eppur_se_muova |
Apr-01-10 12:53 PM |
#77 |
| -
narro quis? |
pundaint |
Apr-02-10 03:13 AM |
#219 |
| -
"Now you see it, now you don't" ... traditionally accompanies prestidigitation. |
eppur_se_muova |
Apr-02-10 09:11 AM |
#245 |
| -
K & R |
Scurrilous |
Apr-01-10 12:53 PM |
#78 |
| -
TY, Skinner. I had no idea the Chessplayer-in-Chief had just slipped in another move... |
Hekate |
Apr-01-10 12:56 PM |
#80 |
| -
34mpg by 2016?? What underachieving horse crap. |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Apr-01-10 01:00 PM |
#83 |
| -
It cut the current goal by FOUR YEARS. nt |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 01:13 PM |
#88 |
| -
So? |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Apr-01-10 01:22 PM |
#91 |
| -
. |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 01:27 PM |
#95 |
| -
Imagine living a life where nothing was ever good enough |
HughMoran |
Apr-01-10 01:42 PM |
#104 |
| -
Just another goalpost moved so they don't have to say anything good. nt |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 01:47 PM |
#107 |
| -
Goalposts will need to be attached to a Top Fuel Dragster soon |
HughMoran |
Apr-01-10 01:55 PM |
#109 |
| -
I heard they're in Uzbekistan now. At least the last time anybody |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 01:57 PM |
#111 |
| -
Seriously... |
shellgame26 |
Apr-02-10 02:47 AM |
#216 |
| -
Do you know anything about trucks r SUVs?? |
DainBramaged |
Apr-01-10 01:26 PM |
#94 |
| -
Your list is off |
jeff47 |
Apr-01-10 10:37 PM |
#203 |
| -
Suzuki should never have quit |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-10 07:36 AM |
#234 |
| -
so what... |
optimator |
Apr-01-10 01:04 PM |
#84 |
| -
So now Skinner is in the "cult of personality," giving credit to his "hero?" |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 01:16 PM |
#89 |
| -
Yep, I saw it. |
Bobbie Jo |
Apr-01-10 01:10 PM |
#87 |
| -
republicans didn't notice, but neither did democrats |
apples and oranges |
Apr-01-10 01:30 PM |
#97 |
| -
Is it wrong of me to just want some simple, straightforward leadership? |
jgraz |
Apr-01-10 01:33 PM |
#99 |
| -
Yes, yes it is wrong... |
JuniperLea |
Apr-01-10 01:46 PM |
#106 |
| -
It's not what W got us. It's what W got *them* |
jgraz |
Apr-01-10 02:48 PM |
#129 |
| -
That's my point... what Bush did was wrong... |
JuniperLea |
Apr-01-10 02:53 PM |
#133 |
| -
Some of what Bush did was wrong. A lot of what Bush did was *effective* |
jgraz |
Apr-01-10 02:56 PM |
#135 |
| -
That's still the point... |
JuniperLea |
Apr-01-10 03:16 PM |
#146 |
| -
You seem to be stuck on Bush. OK. Then let's say LBJ. |
jgraz |
Apr-01-10 03:21 PM |
#147 |
| -
Yep, just as it's wrong of you to ignore anything good that he does. |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 01:51 PM |
#108 |
| -
Wow, someone learned a new word |
jgraz |
Apr-01-10 02:46 PM |
#127 |
| -
Why bless your heart! nt |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 02:54 PM |
#134 |
| -
And someone learned a new phrase. |
jgraz |
Apr-01-10 02:57 PM |
#136 |
| -
Why bless your heart again! nt |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 02:58 PM |
#137 |
| -
Keep trying. Someday you'll post like a real grownup. |
jgraz |
Apr-01-10 02:59 PM |
#138 |
| -
Why bless your little heart! nt |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 03:07 PM |
#143 |
| -
Apparently it's very important to you to have the last word. |
jgraz |
Apr-01-10 03:14 PM |
#145 |
| -
Get a room! nt |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-10 07:39 AM |
#235 |
| -
It's not wrong but it's unrealistic |
Hippo_Tron |
Apr-02-10 03:27 AM |
#220 |
| -
"I don't want to play the game better, I want to change the way the game is played" |
jgraz |
Apr-02-10 09:11 AM |
#244 |
| -
I hate to break it to you but that was part of the game |
Hippo_Tron |
Apr-02-10 12:13 PM |
#251 |
| -
I guess I've been around the block a few times as THAT WAS the big news I absorbed yesterday |
HughMoran |
Apr-01-10 01:41 PM |
#102 |
| -
Nice :-) |
Maru Kitteh |
Apr-01-10 01:42 PM |
#103 |
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Master politician |
BeFree |
Apr-01-10 02:00 PM |
#113 |
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Funny how the corpmedia manages to direct the narrative against Dems on nearly every issue... |
blm |
Apr-01-10 02:03 PM |
#114 |
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I didn't. But, I guess it's all in the way one "looks" at it. |
pattmarty |
Apr-01-10 02:04 PM |
#115 |
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The offshore drilling "hand" has a big middle finger extended |
omega minimo |
Apr-01-10 02:14 PM |
#116 |
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The hand has many fingers, doesn't it? |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-01-10 04:47 PM |
#175 |
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I"m sorry but I disagree. |
cornermouse |
Apr-01-10 02:33 PM |
#124 |
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ALL of those things are in the works but they will all take years to work |
ecstatic |
Apr-01-10 02:47 PM |
#128 |
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"In the works" is not good enough. |
cornermouse |
Apr-01-10 03:05 PM |
#140 |
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Are you aware of a person who can switch us to solar and wind energy tomorrow? |
ecstatic |
Apr-01-10 03:09 PM |
#144 |
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That's why, like JFK, you announce a national initiative. |
cornermouse |
Apr-01-10 03:41 PM |
#149 |
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I agree. It seems they have had a plan all along. |
Warren Stupidity |
Apr-01-10 02:35 PM |
#125 |
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The plan is, do something unbelievably asinine and throw something unrelated but marginally good in |
Political Heretic |
Apr-01-10 04:12 PM |
#168 |
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This is good but |
whatchamacallit |
Apr-01-10 02:51 PM |
#132 |
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Good point |
tavalon |
Apr-01-10 03:01 PM |
#139 |
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Maybe it's Triangle Chess |
Moochy |
Apr-02-10 02:59 AM |
#218 |
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It has been quite some time |
awoke_in_2003 |
Apr-01-10 03:05 PM |
#142 |
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Rec |
malaise |
Apr-01-10 03:43 PM |
#151 |
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The legislation for increasing CAFE passed in 2007 - it wasn't an accomplishment by Obama |
kristopher |
Apr-01-10 03:52 PM |
#153 |
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You should try reading the links. Obama decreased the target by FOUR YEARS. |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 03:54 PM |
#156 |
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I did read them, but I jumbled the facts. |
kristopher |
Apr-01-10 04:02 PM |
#162 |
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That doesn't even make sense. nt |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 04:03 PM |
#165 |
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Then I feel sorry for you. |
kristopher |
Apr-01-10 04:17 PM |
#170 |
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You asked why he hadn't enacted a law that was enacted in 2007. |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 04:21 PM |
#171 |
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^ +10 |
amborin |
Apr-01-10 04:01 PM |
#161 |
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36MPG by 2016? WAY TOO FUCKING SLOW! |
Odin2005 |
Apr-01-10 03:58 PM |
#157 |
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It cuts the current target date by FOUR YEARS, almost in half. nt |
DevonRex |
Apr-01-10 04:02 PM |
#163 |
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Hartmann says that this, coupled with the off-shore drilling, completely |
Doctor_J |
Apr-01-10 04:00 PM |
#160 |
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It's like rape with a complimentary fruit basket. |
Political Heretic |
Apr-01-10 04:05 PM |
#166 |
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"let's set aside the question of whether the offshore drilling expansion is bad policy." |
Political Heretic |
Apr-01-10 04:15 PM |
#169 |
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+1 nt |
maryf |
Apr-01-10 11:21 PM |
#209 |
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Obama plays chess, not checkers. |
Lil Missy |
Apr-01-10 05:33 PM |
#178 |
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It's not what game he plays, its who he plays it for. |
Political Heretic |
Apr-01-10 05:37 PM |
#179 |
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Only if you're a checkers player. |
Lil Missy |
Apr-01-10 06:13 PM |
#184 |
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um, no... pretty much either way. |
Political Heretic |
Apr-01-10 06:53 PM |
#188 |
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Chess player here... |
liberation |
Apr-01-10 07:06 PM |
#190 |
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Thirty-five mpg in 2016 |
swilton |
Apr-01-10 05:59 PM |
#182 |
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Honda Civic does pretty much the same (47 mpg) if I drive |
cornermouse |
Apr-01-10 06:41 PM |
#186 |
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I love it - President Obama is kicking in to high gear with progressive initiatives |
Politicub |
Apr-01-10 06:11 PM |
#183 |
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(sigh) |
cornermouse |
Apr-01-10 08:13 PM |
#193 |
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This is still a bait & switch presidency. |
mmonk |
Apr-01-10 06:44 PM |
#187 |
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I believe you are wrong. |
Skinner |
Apr-01-10 07:12 PM |
#191 |
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I agree with this. There is one chance it might be different... |
berni_mccoy |
Apr-02-10 06:50 AM |
#227 |
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The Supreme Court will declare the EPA unconstitutional and give gasoline 28th Amendment rights |
leveymg |
Apr-01-10 06:55 PM |
#189 |
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Thanks for noticing... |
mojowork_n |
Apr-01-10 07:42 PM |
#192 |
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We are very quick to complain about things Obama is doing , and |
old mark |
Apr-01-10 09:53 PM |
#200 |
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I saw this earlier |
Juche |
Apr-01-10 10:21 PM |
#201 |
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Wait a minute..... |
femrap |
Apr-01-10 10:40 PM |
#204 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-02-10 08:52 AM |
#240 |
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Fantastic news. Thanks for posting. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Apr-01-10 10:40 PM |
#205 |
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I'm in agreeance. |
Deadgnome |
Apr-01-10 10:55 PM |
#206 |
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K & R!!!! |
HuckleB |
Apr-01-10 11:02 PM |
#207 |
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Isn't there something wrong with giving credibility to |
hulka38 |
Apr-01-10 11:08 PM |
#208 |
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Mr. President is clever. |
lonestarnot |
Apr-01-10 11:21 PM |
#210 |
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So, basically we are supposed to ignore the giant stinky mess that is going |
Jamastiene |
Apr-01-10 11:34 PM |
#211 |
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I big concession to Big Oil |
skeptical cynic |
Apr-02-10 12:23 AM |
#212 |
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It's huge. |
TexasObserver |
Apr-02-10 12:27 AM |
#213 |
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TOTALLY! |
speedcat |
Apr-02-10 01:33 AM |
#215 |
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Welcome speedcat |
upi402 |
Apr-02-10 02:57 AM |
#217 |
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K&R |
uponit7771 |
Apr-02-10 05:03 AM |
#222 |
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K & Highly rec'd nt |
Christa |
Apr-02-10 06:47 AM |
#225 |
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Sorry, but I am not falling for the old triangulation-chess excuse again. |
freddie mertz |
Apr-02-10 07:12 AM |
#232 |
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I saw it! Thought it was an awesome move. n/t |
axollot |
Apr-02-10 08:40 AM |
#238 |
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Yep I saw it. |
Joanne98 |
Apr-02-10 08:52 AM |
#239 |
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Excellent! Thanks didn't see it...but here's an excellent perspective on the drilling: |
BlancheSplanchnik |
Apr-02-10 09:00 AM |
#241 |
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Cars operated by |
femrap |
Apr-02-10 09:00 AM |
#242 |
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Didn't see this elsewhere |
suffragette |
Apr-02-10 09:08 AM |
#243 |
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Obama also protected some areas of the U.S. from future off shore drills that Bush |
lunasun |
Apr-02-10 10:00 AM |
#249 |
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I already heard some fools whining about this |
Mopar151 |
Apr-02-10 01:36 PM |
#255 |
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Oh our President is definitely the MAN |
mstinamotorcity |
Apr-02-10 01:52 PM |
#257 |
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Kick. Kick. Kick. |
HuckleB |
Apr-02-10 09:18 PM |
#262 |
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