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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 11:32 AM
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13. no I didn't
almost didn't see this either - opened my DU homepage right as your post was at the top of the latest! Thanks.

Seems like it is a how he is doing a lot of his work - giving the right plenty of chance to hang themselves and also pissing off enough of the real left to keep them angry and active! I am not so happy with all apparent the corporate ass-kissing, but I can see a lot of possibility still. Politics is NOT often an arena for instant gratification, that is for sure but our culture has become so accustomed to it we expect it every where.
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  -Did you see it? Skinner  Apr-01-10 11:26 AM   #0 
  - yes. it's pretty clear the drilling thing is a feint or  cali   Apr-01-10 11:27 AM   #1 
  - Red Herring?  Beetwasher   Apr-01-10 11:28 AM   # 
  - "Rope a dope" strategery  SusanaMontana41   Apr-01-10 03:48 PM   #152 
     - Yeah, he fooled them by running more of our healthcare through the corporations causing the problem.  pundaint   Apr-01-10 08:50 PM   #194 
     - Very good  vssmith   Apr-01-10 09:17 PM   #196 
     - Think we would have had a better deal under President McCain?  SusanaMontana41   Apr-02-10 01:19 AM   #214 
     - I call it Rope a Nope  Solomon   Apr-02-10 05:03 AM   # 
     - +10. nt.  druidity33   Apr-02-10 05:39 AM   #224 
     - Bwahahahaha  Enthusiast   Apr-02-10 06:48 AM   #226 
     - yup, bait and switch  Lost4words   Apr-02-10 08:15 AM   #237 
        - That's how it feels to me, too  SusanaMontana41   Apr-02-10 03:45 PM   #259 
     - it roped a bunch of dopes here as well  mkultra   Apr-02-10 05:12 PM   #261 
  - I'd say all the things you mentioned. nt  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 11:29 AM   #8 
  - I think he's calling their bluff, personally.  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 12:10 PM   #54 
  - Yeah, that's what i thought. I mean, about the leases. nt  kjones   Apr-01-10 01:38 PM   #101 
  - Herring are quite an oily fish, as I recall  Stinky The Clown   Apr-01-10 02:19 PM   #118 
  - How 'bout we call it an ecological reaming?  pundaint   Apr-01-10 08:51 PM   #195 
  - Shhh!  Beetwasher   Apr-01-10 11:27 AM   #2 
  - I didn't until you posted it. Thank you for the links. This is indeed  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 11:28 AM   #3 
  - Sank like a rock in LBN:  Robb   Apr-01-10 11:28 AM   #4 
  - Sorry. I was too busy complaining how he stabbed me in the back.  Dogmudgeon   Apr-01-10 11:28 AM   #5 
  - !!  Richardo   Apr-01-10 11:29 AM   #9 
  - Now that was funny.  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 11:30 AM   #11 
  - LOL  Canuckistanian   Apr-01-10 03:05 PM   #141 
  - "Hey, Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit outta my hat!"  Richardo   Apr-01-10 11:28 AM   #6 
  - I just read this  G_j   Apr-01-10 11:29 AM   #7 
  - K&R  Solly Mack   Apr-01-10 11:30 AM   #10 
  - Yes, I was very pleased. I hope they also narrow exemptions from CAFE standards. nt  Captain Hilts   Apr-01-10 11:32 AM   #12 
  - That's My Concern, Also  On the Road   Apr-02-10 08:00 AM   #236 
  - no I didn't  Kali   Apr-01-10 11:32 AM   #13 
  - Seems to me the economics of petroleum depletion dictates both of these policies  depakid   Apr-01-10 11:33 AM   #14 
  - So you give kudos to Obama for this, right? Dubya certainly didn't do it  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 11:36 AM   #17 
  - In so far as it's politically and economically what any rational politician would do  depakid   Apr-01-10 11:46 AM   #24 
     - Ah, so you're shrugging it off.  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 11:47 AM   #25 
     - Nope- just not jumping up and down on way or another over someone doing their job  depakid   Apr-01-10 06:20 PM   #185 
     - I can't see Bush doing that.  Enthusiast   Apr-02-10 06:57 AM   #229 
  - Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! This is peak oil and climate change  Subdivisions   Apr-01-10 11:55 AM   #36 
  - Good reasonable analysis, depakid. nt  Enthusiast   Apr-02-10 06:51 AM   #228 
  - Wish he could do something about the smoke coming out of truck exhaust  Winterblues   Apr-01-10 11:33 AM   #15 
  - Educate yourself.  Ikonoklast   Apr-01-10 01:30 PM   #96 
  - Doesn't seem to be working very well though does it?  Winterblues   Apr-01-10 01:35 PM   #100 
     - Actually, it has been working...  JuniperLea   Apr-01-10 01:43 PM   #105 
     - Visible smoke is a violation these days  Mopar151   Apr-01-10 02:20 PM   #119 
        - Are you an Environmental Narc  freedommachine   Apr-01-10 02:32 PM   #122 
           - Nope, just a guy who likes engines  Mopar151   Apr-01-10 03:54 PM   #155 
              - Thats what i did to my 1972 Chevy Pickup  8 track mind   Apr-01-10 09:36 PM   #198 
              - A real Mopar man  Enthusiast   Apr-02-10 07:00 AM   #230 
              - Smile when you say that, partner  Mopar151   Apr-02-10 01:22 PM   #253 
                 - I know all that.  Enthusiast   Apr-02-10 02:32 PM   #258 
              - My 1982 Mercedes smokes on startup,  freedommachine   Apr-02-10 09:32 AM   #247 
                 - It's pretty healthy, then  Mopar151   Apr-02-10 01:32 PM   #254 
  - Where've you been?  hunter   Apr-01-10 04:26 PM   #173 
  - DU basically ignored everything that happened yesterday except the drilling part.  tridim   Apr-01-10 11:34 AM   #16 
  - DU thrives on controversy.  Skinner   Apr-01-10 11:36 AM   #19 
  - Now, if there were only a way to make good news controversial...  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 11:50 AM   #31 
     - I'm workin' on it.  Skinner   Apr-01-10 01:24 PM   #92 
     - And a mighty fine job you're doing, too,  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 01:30 PM   #98 
     - I'm sorry, I'm confused - does this news somehow change the fact that we are DRILL BABY DRILL?  Political Heretic   Apr-01-10 04:10 PM   #167 
        - Well the Pres still mite have a trick left. If the repubs object strongly enough about the drilling  rhett o rick   Apr-02-10 10:24 AM   #250 
           - Oh that would be rich. nt  Chemisse   Apr-02-10 05:03 PM   #260 
     - +1000. :) n/t  OneGrassRoot   Apr-02-10 05:05 AM   #223 
     - Aren't they already?  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Apr-02-10 09:48 AM   #248 
        - Well, obviously there's only ONE acceptable way to bread fried turkey.  DevonRex   Apr-02-10 01:41 PM   #256 
  - saw it, liked it, but doesn't make me like off shore drilling any better.  unapatriciated   Apr-01-10 03:54 PM   #154 
  - There are a boat load of trolls on DU.  ChimpersMcSmirkers   Apr-01-10 09:40 PM   #199 
  - Thanks for posting - it flew under my radar too.  Kber   Apr-01-10 11:36 AM   #18 
  - Finally, Obama is doing away with Bush era SUV exemptions. Hat's off Pres O!  Union Yes   Apr-01-10 11:38 AM   #20 
  - Edward G Robinson is smiling  musiclawyer   Apr-01-10 11:39 AM   #21 
  - Yes, he is  Laughing Mirror   Apr-01-10 01:05 PM   #85 
  - Why do increased fuel efficiency standards make Little Caesar smile?  Greyhound   Apr-01-10 02:20 PM   #120 
  - I didn't see it on NPR. but knew it would be coming - it isn't a keyed lock its a combination  bridgit   Apr-01-10 11:42 AM   #22 
  - heard it on the radio this morning.  Soylent Brice   Apr-01-10 11:45 AM   #23 
  - I notice they are quiet about Hilda Solis (Labor Dept. Sec.) too--she's very pro-union.  blondeatlast   Apr-01-10 11:47 AM   #26 
  - So maybe Obama is playing 5th dimensional chess or 23 level backgammon or  Javaman   Apr-01-10 11:48 AM   #27 
  - Yes, I saw it  Cirque du So-What   Apr-01-10 11:48 AM   #28 
  - Too late to R  Bryn   Apr-01-10 11:49 AM   #29 
  - So we're supposed to ignore something terrible he did because he did something mildly positive?  LeftyMom   Apr-01-10 11:50 AM   #30 
  - Are we to ignore something great he did because of something that might be  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 11:53 AM   #34 
  - Yep, that's what she's saying.  tridim   Apr-01-10 11:56 AM   #40 
     - Hey, if you guys want to get shined on, go for it.  LeftyMom   Apr-01-10 12:00 PM   #42 
     - .  Echo In Light   Apr-01-10 12:03 PM   #48 
     - Yep. Ignore the positive, assume and magnify the negative. nt  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 12:01 PM   #46 
  - the drilling dear, is exceedingly unlikely to ever happen.  cali   Apr-01-10 11:56 AM   #38 
  - Correct. nt  Bobbie Jo   Apr-01-10 01:06 PM   #86 
  - That's irrational. Once land is open it rarely closes and will get used.  Go2Peace   Apr-01-10 02:50 PM   #130 
  - "a 10 mpg increase in less than six years isn't feasible."  Turborama   Apr-01-10 12:37 PM   #65 
  - I loved your post. Thank you so much for that information. nt  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 12:41 PM   #70 
  - You're most welcome  Turborama   Apr-01-10 12:57 PM   #81 
  - Those cars aren't sold in the US because they don't meet safety specs.  LeftyMom   Apr-01-10 01:25 PM   #93 
     - Did you even go to the Chrysler link?  Turborama   Apr-01-10 02:17 PM   #117 
     - The cars in that link are all diesel. Which almost no US consumer will consider,  LeftyMom   Apr-01-10 02:29 PM   #121 
        - At least 1/4 of all gas stations sell diesel  tammywammy   Apr-01-10 02:51 PM   #131 
        - According to this article, in 2007 nearly half of the country's 180,000 fuel stations had diesel  Turborama   Apr-02-10 09:35 PM   #263 
        - Shame you didn't go to the GD link as well  Turborama   Apr-01-10 09:32 PM   #197 
        - This is the key right here.  Enthusiast   Apr-02-10 07:20 AM   #233 
        - They also wouldn't consider the seat belt either hunh? This argument against diesel is worn  uponit7771   Apr-02-10 04:58 AM   #221 
     - They will buy  Enthusiast   Apr-02-10 07:05 AM   #231 
  - I disagree with you.  Dogtown   Apr-01-10 01:20 PM   #90 
     - I love rational honesty...  SkyDaddy7   Apr-01-10 05:41 PM   #181 
        - Thanks, SkyDaddy7  Dogtown   Apr-02-10 12:27 PM   #252 
  - We also had the insurance industry back down on their "interpretation" re: Kids w/pre-existing cond.  Warren DeMontague   Apr-01-10 11:50 AM   #32 
  - One of those threads (you wanted) was created by a shrill bully & was locked after bully was allowed  Echo In Light   Apr-01-10 11:56 AM   #39 
  - ...and?  Warren DeMontague   Apr-01-10 01:56 PM   #110 
     - They sneak in the cheerleader meme whenever possible. And cult of personallity  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 01:59 PM   #112 
     - Auh, I see. My one post = "complaining endlessly." Nice reach!  Echo In Light   Apr-01-10 02:33 PM   #123 
        - Define "my".  Warren DeMontague   Apr-01-10 03:40 PM   #148 
  - They have backed down for now, but we still need to fix it.  unapatriciated   Apr-01-10 04:03 PM   #164 
     - Still, the administration stood up to them on this, and they backed right down.  Warren DeMontague   Apr-01-10 04:44 PM   #174 
     - most of us were just pointing out problems we saw in the bill.  unapatriciated   Apr-01-10 05:20 PM   #177 
     - Actually, no  jeff47   Apr-01-10 10:27 PM   #202 
  - I did see something about that earlier.  The_Commonist   Apr-01-10 11:51 AM   #33 
  - Thank you for this information, Skinner.  tom_paine   Apr-01-10 11:55 AM   #35 
  - Sounds like the Obama change train is rolling down the tracks at full speed  high density   Apr-01-10 11:56 AM   #37 
  - Jujitsu?  Gold Metal Flake   Apr-01-10 11:57 AM   #41 
  - K&R...nt  SidDithers   Apr-01-10 12:00 PM   #43 
  - That's pretty much how the President works  NJmaverick   Apr-01-10 12:01 PM   #44 
  - When dealing with an obviously accelerating downward trajectory, it is neither sensible, nor  pundaint   Apr-01-10 02:40 PM   #126 
  - Wow! Thanks Skinner  goclark   Apr-01-10 12:01 PM   #45 
  - Finally something to cheer about !  Tailormyst   Apr-01-10 12:02 PM   #47 
  - ...  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 12:13 PM   #55 
  - Hopefully it will continue to go unseen so it sneaks past the thugs.  xultar   Apr-01-10 12:04 PM   #49 
  - Another intergalactic chess move :) nt  newtothegame   Apr-01-10 12:04 PM   #50 
  - Yes, I saw it in the report yesterday..  Cha   Apr-01-10 12:06 PM   #51 
  - No, darn it.  jotsy   Apr-01-10 12:06 PM   #52 
  - It wasn't anywhere that I know of and I had the news on all day.  EFerrari   Apr-01-10 12:07 PM   #53 
  - i didn't see it, but the media doesn't seem too interested in reporting good Obama news  spanone   Apr-01-10 12:14 PM   #56 
  - I did not hear about that yesterday, no. But, I'm glad to hear it today.  flvegan   Apr-01-10 12:14 PM   #57 
  - Chrysler have been making 35 MPG cars on US soil for years but are only selling them abroad  Turborama   Apr-01-10 12:15 PM   #58 
  - Big Whoop rethugs asked for 35 mpg in 2007  amborin   Apr-01-10 12:23 PM   #59 
  - exactly the same as Bush asked for in 2007  amborin   Apr-01-10 12:30 PM   #61 
     - You're wrong. From the article:  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 12:38 PM   #67 
        - same goal, just asking they be implemented sooner  amborin   Apr-01-10 03:58 PM   #158 
           - The goal of 2020 has been changed to 2016. That's not the same, nt  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 04:25 PM   #172 
  - I noticed that. The fuel efficiency standards are REAL change, right now.  kestrel91316   Apr-01-10 12:29 PM   #60 
  - Well, real change 6 years from now, but it's a positive move  Tailormyst   Apr-01-10 12:35 PM   #62 
     - how is it different from Bush's 2007 ruling for 35 mpg?  amborin   Apr-01-10 12:37 PM   #63 
     - Happens 4 years earlier, which is good.  Tailormyst   Apr-01-10 12:37 PM   # 
        - Exactly. nt  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 12:40 PM   #68 
        - political expediency this was a 2007 ruling that 's only now being addressed  amborin   Apr-01-10 05:38 PM   #180 
     - duplicate  amborin   Apr-01-10 12:37 PM   #64 
     - Can't change CAFE overnight due to the lag time in car development.  kestrel91316   Apr-01-10 12:49 PM   #74 
        - Yup, and as I said its a positive change  Tailormyst   Apr-01-10 12:55 PM   #79 
        - can certainly be changed faster than 4 yrs; again, rethugs asked for 35mph in 2007  amborin   Apr-01-10 03:59 PM   #159 
  - I did hear that on the news on NPR again this AM.  BrklynLiberal   Apr-01-10 12:37 PM   #66 
  - And sucker them in he did, with style  DainBramaged   Apr-01-10 12:41 PM   #69 
  - +1  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 12:42 PM   #71 
  - Folks need to remember that a 35 mpg CAFE is a big deal.  Mopar151   Apr-01-10 03:42 PM   #150 
  - From the article - "The rules should add costs to new cars and trucks.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-01-10 12:46 PM   #72 
  - The gas savings are triple that of the added cost. nt  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 12:52 PM   #76 
     - You didn't get my point. Also,  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-01-10 05:18 PM   #176 
        - You do have a valid point.  DevonRex   Apr-02-10 09:25 AM   #246 
  - I remember that we had cars in the 60's /70's that got 42mpg . . . and many cars now do!!  defendandprotect   Apr-01-10 12:48 PM   #73 
  - I hope you are right but there will be no climate bill.  harun   Apr-01-10 12:52 PM   #75 
  - Look! It's Carnac the Magnificent!!!!  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 12:57 PM   #82 
  - Nunc id vides, nunc ne vides ... nt  eppur_se_muova   Apr-01-10 12:53 PM   #77 
  - narro quis?  pundaint   Apr-02-10 03:13 AM   #219 
     - "Now you see it, now you don't" ... traditionally accompanies prestidigitation.  eppur_se_muova   Apr-02-10 09:11 AM   #245 
  - K & R  Scurrilous   Apr-01-10 12:53 PM   #78 
  - TY, Skinner. I had no idea the Chessplayer-in-Chief had just slipped in another move...  Hekate   Apr-01-10 12:56 PM   #80 
  - 34mpg by 2016?? What underachieving horse crap.  Hell Hath No Fury   Apr-01-10 01:00 PM   #83 
  - It cut the current goal by FOUR YEARS. nt  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 01:13 PM   #88 
  - So?  Hell Hath No Fury   Apr-01-10 01:22 PM   #91 
     - .  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 01:27 PM   #95 
     - Imagine living a life where nothing was ever good enough  HughMoran   Apr-01-10 01:42 PM   #104 
        - Just another goalpost moved so they don't have to say anything good. nt  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 01:47 PM   #107 
        - Goalposts will need to be attached to a Top Fuel Dragster soon  HughMoran   Apr-01-10 01:55 PM   #109 
           - I heard they're in Uzbekistan now. At least the last time anybody  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 01:57 PM   #111 
        - Seriously...  shellgame26   Apr-02-10 02:47 AM   #216 
  - Do you know anything about trucks r SUVs??  DainBramaged   Apr-01-10 01:26 PM   #94 
  - Your list is off  jeff47   Apr-01-10 10:37 PM   #203 
     - Suzuki should never have quit  Enthusiast   Apr-02-10 07:36 AM   #234 
  - so what...  optimator   Apr-01-10 01:04 PM   #84 
  - So now Skinner is in the "cult of personality," giving credit to his "hero?"  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 01:16 PM   #89 
  - Yep, I saw it.  Bobbie Jo   Apr-01-10 01:10 PM   #87 
  - republicans didn't notice, but neither did democrats  apples and oranges   Apr-01-10 01:30 PM   #97 
  - Is it wrong of me to just want some simple, straightforward leadership?  jgraz   Apr-01-10 01:33 PM   #99 
  - Yes, yes it is wrong...  JuniperLea   Apr-01-10 01:46 PM   #106 
  - It's not what W got us. It's what W got *them*  jgraz   Apr-01-10 02:48 PM   #129 
     - That's my point... what Bush did was wrong...  JuniperLea   Apr-01-10 02:53 PM   #133 
        - Some of what Bush did was wrong. A lot of what Bush did was *effective*  jgraz   Apr-01-10 02:56 PM   #135 
           - That's still the point...  JuniperLea   Apr-01-10 03:16 PM   #146 
              - You seem to be stuck on Bush. OK. Then let's say LBJ.  jgraz   Apr-01-10 03:21 PM   #147 
  - Yep, just as it's wrong of you to ignore anything good that he does.  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 01:51 PM   #108 
  - Wow, someone learned a new word  jgraz   Apr-01-10 02:46 PM   #127 
     - Why bless your heart! nt  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 02:54 PM   #134 
        - And someone learned a new phrase.  jgraz   Apr-01-10 02:57 PM   #136 
           - Why bless your heart again! nt  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 02:58 PM   #137 
              - Keep trying. Someday you'll post like a real grownup.  jgraz   Apr-01-10 02:59 PM   #138 
                 - Why bless your little heart! nt  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 03:07 PM   #143 
                    - Apparently it's very important to you to have the last word.  jgraz   Apr-01-10 03:14 PM   #145 
                       - Get a room! nt  Enthusiast   Apr-02-10 07:39 AM   #235 
  - It's not wrong but it's unrealistic  Hippo_Tron   Apr-02-10 03:27 AM   #220 
     - "I don't want to play the game better, I want to change the way the game is played"  jgraz   Apr-02-10 09:11 AM   #244 
        - I hate to break it to you but that was part of the game  Hippo_Tron   Apr-02-10 12:13 PM   #251 
  - I guess I've been around the block a few times as THAT WAS the big news I absorbed yesterday  HughMoran   Apr-01-10 01:41 PM   #102 
  - Nice :-)  Maru Kitteh   Apr-01-10 01:42 PM   #103 
  - Master politician  BeFree   Apr-01-10 02:00 PM   #113 
  - Funny how the corpmedia manages to direct the narrative against Dems on nearly every issue...  blm   Apr-01-10 02:03 PM   #114 
  - I didn't. But, I guess it's all in the way one "looks" at it.  pattmarty   Apr-01-10 02:04 PM   #115 
  - The offshore drilling "hand" has a big middle finger extended  omega minimo   Apr-01-10 02:14 PM   #116 
  - The hand has many fingers, doesn't it?  Warren DeMontague   Apr-01-10 04:47 PM   #175 
  - I"m sorry but I disagree.  cornermouse   Apr-01-10 02:33 PM   #124 
  - ALL of those things are in the works but they will all take years to work  ecstatic   Apr-01-10 02:47 PM   #128 
     - "In the works" is not good enough.  cornermouse   Apr-01-10 03:05 PM   #140 
        - Are you aware of a person who can switch us to solar and wind energy tomorrow?  ecstatic   Apr-01-10 03:09 PM   #144 
           - That's why, like JFK, you announce a national initiative.  cornermouse   Apr-01-10 03:41 PM   #149 
  - I agree. It seems they have had a plan all along.  Warren Stupidity   Apr-01-10 02:35 PM   #125 
  - The plan is, do something unbelievably asinine and throw something unrelated but marginally good in  Political Heretic   Apr-01-10 04:12 PM   #168 
  - This is good but  whatchamacallit   Apr-01-10 02:51 PM   #132 
  - Good point  tavalon   Apr-01-10 03:01 PM   #139 
  - Maybe it's Triangle Chess  Moochy   Apr-02-10 02:59 AM   #218 
  - It has been quite some time  awoke_in_2003   Apr-01-10 03:05 PM   #142 
  - Rec  malaise   Apr-01-10 03:43 PM   #151 
  - The legislation for increasing CAFE passed in 2007 - it wasn't an accomplishment by Obama  kristopher   Apr-01-10 03:52 PM   #153 
  - You should try reading the links. Obama decreased the target by FOUR YEARS.  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 03:54 PM   #156 
  - I did read them, but I jumbled the facts.  kristopher   Apr-01-10 04:02 PM   #162 
     - That doesn't even make sense. nt  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 04:03 PM   #165 
        - Then I feel sorry for you.  kristopher   Apr-01-10 04:17 PM   #170 
           - You asked why he hadn't enacted a law that was enacted in 2007.  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 04:21 PM   #171 
  - ^ +10  amborin   Apr-01-10 04:01 PM   #161 
  - 36MPG by 2016? WAY TOO FUCKING SLOW!  Odin2005   Apr-01-10 03:58 PM   #157 
  - It cuts the current target date by FOUR YEARS, almost in half. nt  DevonRex   Apr-01-10 04:02 PM   #163 
  - Hartmann says that this, coupled with the off-shore drilling, completely  Doctor_J   Apr-01-10 04:00 PM   #160 
  - It's like rape with a complimentary fruit basket.  Political Heretic   Apr-01-10 04:05 PM   #166 
  - "let's set aside the question of whether the offshore drilling expansion is bad policy."  Political Heretic   Apr-01-10 04:15 PM   #169 
  - +1 nt  maryf   Apr-01-10 11:21 PM   #209 
  - Obama plays chess, not checkers.  Lil Missy   Apr-01-10 05:33 PM   #178 
  - It's not what game he plays, its who he plays it for.  Political Heretic   Apr-01-10 05:37 PM   #179 
     - Only if you're a checkers player.  Lil Missy   Apr-01-10 06:13 PM   #184 
        - um, no... pretty much either way.  Political Heretic   Apr-01-10 06:53 PM   #188 
        - Chess player here...  liberation   Apr-01-10 07:06 PM   #190 
  - Thirty-five mpg in 2016  swilton   Apr-01-10 05:59 PM   #182 
  - Honda Civic does pretty much the same (47 mpg) if I drive  cornermouse   Apr-01-10 06:41 PM   #186 
  - I love it - President Obama is kicking in to high gear with progressive initiatives  Politicub   Apr-01-10 06:11 PM   #183 
  - (sigh)  cornermouse   Apr-01-10 08:13 PM   #193 
  - This is still a bait & switch presidency.  mmonk   Apr-01-10 06:44 PM   #187 
  - I believe you are wrong.  Skinner   Apr-01-10 07:12 PM   #191 
     - I agree with this. There is one chance it might be different...  berni_mccoy   Apr-02-10 06:50 AM   #227 
  - The Supreme Court will declare the EPA unconstitutional and give gasoline 28th Amendment rights  leveymg   Apr-01-10 06:55 PM   #189 
  - Thanks for noticing...  mojowork_n   Apr-01-10 07:42 PM   #192 
  - We are very quick to complain about things Obama is doing , and  old mark   Apr-01-10 09:53 PM   #200 
  - I saw this earlier  Juche   Apr-01-10 10:21 PM   #201 
  - Wait a minute.....  femrap   Apr-01-10 10:40 PM   #204 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-02-10 08:52 AM   #240 
  - Fantastic news. Thanks for posting. nt  ZombieHorde   Apr-01-10 10:40 PM   #205 
  - I'm in agreeance.  Deadgnome   Apr-01-10 10:55 PM   #206 
  - K & R!!!!  HuckleB   Apr-01-10 11:02 PM   #207 
  - Isn't there something wrong with giving credibility to  hulka38   Apr-01-10 11:08 PM   #208 
  - Mr. President is clever.  lonestarnot   Apr-01-10 11:21 PM   #210 
  - So, basically we are supposed to ignore the giant stinky mess that is going  Jamastiene   Apr-01-10 11:34 PM   #211 
  - I big concession to Big Oil  skeptical cynic   Apr-02-10 12:23 AM   #212 
  - It's huge.  TexasObserver   Apr-02-10 12:27 AM   #213 
  - TOTALLY!  speedcat   Apr-02-10 01:33 AM   #215 
  - Welcome speedcat  upi402   Apr-02-10 02:57 AM   #217 
  - K&R  uponit7771   Apr-02-10 05:03 AM   #222 
  - K & Highly rec'd nt  Christa   Apr-02-10 06:47 AM   #225 
  - Sorry, but I am not falling for the old triangulation-chess excuse again.  freddie mertz   Apr-02-10 07:12 AM   #232 
  - I saw it! Thought it was an awesome move. n/t  axollot   Apr-02-10 08:40 AM   #238 
  - Yep I saw it.  Joanne98   Apr-02-10 08:52 AM   #239 
  - Excellent! Thanks didn't see it...but here's an excellent perspective on the drilling:  BlancheSplanchnik   Apr-02-10 09:00 AM   #241 
  - Cars operated by  femrap   Apr-02-10 09:00 AM   #242 
  - Didn't see this elsewhere  suffragette   Apr-02-10 09:08 AM   #243 
  - Obama also protected some areas of the U.S. from future off shore drills that Bush  lunasun   Apr-02-10 10:00 AM   #249 
  - I already heard some fools whining about this  Mopar151   Apr-02-10 01:36 PM   #255 
  - Oh our President is definitely the MAN  mstinamotorcity   Apr-02-10 01:52 PM   #257 
  - Kick. Kick. Kick.  HuckleB   Apr-02-10 09:18 PM   #262 
 

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