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76. Funny he never softened anything when he campaigned in Florida and the
Edited on Wed Mar-31-10 08:05 PM by flyarm
South Coast Sierra club that protested Newt Gingrich today here in St Pete over Florida off shore drilling and dems said such tonight on our news here in SW fact our news ran all his clips in Florida speeches tonight and compared them to McCain and Palin..and funny the South Coast Sierra club didn't know he softened a fucking thing about drilling off our COAST LINES! Nor did several environmental professors for Florida Universities they interviewed! The only ones on our news that said these oil rigs would not destroy our eco system and enviornment was a guy who was hired by republicans and is part of a Think tank,..

it was stated by 2 professors at Universities in Florida that said it will hurt our environment and if there was any type of spill or oil could destroy Florida's economy for a very long long time!

In fact one of the professors in a longer interview said the following..

The Oil drilling is not for national security reasons.

This will not create jobs.

This will not increase supply.

He stated this was being done for oil corporate profits and profits alone!

so go tell these enviornmentalists and these professors that they are stupid or shouldn't talk because only YOU know what Obama said in the state of Florida about drilling off our coasts!

But don't worry your little head ..our Fla news is showing all the speeches Obama made..and they are showing what a liar he is for all in Florida to see!
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  -Obama, 2008: "This is a proposal that would only worsen our addiction to oil" Nikki Stone1  Mar-31-10 04:12 PM   #0 
  - Thanks - Hardball just played an old clip too. Obama was telling the truth then...  polichick   Mar-31-10 04:14 PM   #1 
  - now.  tyne   Mar-31-10 04:16 PM   #2 
  - Now is different  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 09:25 PM   #89 
  - I thought I remembered him being against it and someone informed me of this link  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:16 PM   #3 
  - They must hate it when people remember stuff N/T  court jester   Mar-31-10 05:19 PM   #31 
  - Well, memories are usually short  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 06:57 PM   #59 
  - they just showed that clip and a couple more when he campaigned in Florida..  flyarm   Mar-31-10 06:20 PM   #46 
     - This is what happens when politicians don't have to disclose their campaign contributors  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 06:40 PM   #49 
  - Change means you talk out of one side of your mouth then turn around and talk out of the other later  Go2Peace   Apr-01-10 02:51 AM   #121 
  - He said it both ways  Oregone   Mar-31-10 04:17 PM   #4 
  - Show me where he said he would drill. (I'm curious)  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:17 PM   #5 
     - There is this:  Oregone   Mar-31-10 04:24 PM   #12 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-31-10 04:31 PM   #15 
        - Well see, he shifted based on where he was in the campaign  Oregone   Mar-31-10 04:42 PM   #21 
           - Here is the DU posting of that very same video in June, 2008  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:46 PM   #23 
           - It's called capitulation...leadership is hard, that's why he doesn't do it..n/t  joeybee12   Mar-31-10 05:21 PM   #32 
           - Ouch!  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 05:25 PM   #33 
              - I know..the truth hurts...there isn't one RW meme that Obama hasn't  joeybee12   Mar-31-10 05:28 PM   #36 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-31-10 05:30 PM   #37 
                 - From the Sierra Club: They rallied just last month in Hands Across the Sand  Nikki Stone1   Apr-01-10 01:10 AM   #111 
           - Why run for President if you're not going to follow through on Promises?  newtothegame   Apr-01-10 11:58 AM   #127 
        - So you're cool with being lied to? Repeatedly?  Zhade   Apr-03-10 02:13 AM   #141 
  - Good, McCain is an ass. As for the announcement today:  ProSense   Mar-31-10 04:18 PM   #6 
  - I took the trouble to transcribe. When you do the same, I'll be happy to read it.  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:22 PM   #10 
  - So, because Democrats are doing it, it must be OK?  blindpig   Mar-31-10 04:51 PM   #26 
  - Well, he's made the RW talk show hosts in LA happy today  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 05:49 PM   #42 
  - Oh THAT makes it ALL okay then. Geez. Apparently we stand for nothing.  saracat   Mar-31-10 08:06 PM   #77 
     - Winning is everything.  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 08:17 PM   #81 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-31-10 04:19 PM   #7 
  - Thanks. I transcribe pretty quickly.  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:20 PM   #8 
  - Obama is just like the can find a quote of his to justify anything  katandmoon   Mar-31-10 04:21 PM   #9 
  - Find me the quote that justifies drilling  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:23 PM   #11 
  - LOL  Oregone   Mar-31-10 04:25 PM   #13 
     - Depends on when and what his angle is  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:36 PM   #17 
        - A circle has no angles  Oregone   Mar-31-10 04:40 PM   #18 
           - It also has no point.  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:42 PM   #20 
              - Oh, ouch!  laughingliberal   Mar-31-10 06:48 PM   #54 
                 - Hey just looking  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 08:03 PM   #75 
  - Addiction is a poor and inaccurate choce of words!  Newest Reality   Mar-31-10 04:29 PM   #14 
  - Peak Oil?  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:32 PM   #16 
  - Actually, oil is the center of things  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:42 PM   #19 
  - We could cut back pretty far with enough will  TheKentuckian   Apr-03-10 12:42 AM   #139 
  - i'm sure there's a 3-D chess pony in there some where.  KG   Mar-31-10 04:43 PM   #22 
  - It's all about being a circle  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:48 PM   #24 
     - he was against it before he was for it. before that, he categorically denied oils existance  KG   Mar-31-10 04:50 PM   #25 
     - Are you creating your own reality again?  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 05:12 PM   #30 
     - Chess on a string ....... or a yoyo.  Stinky The Clown   Apr-01-10 12:35 AM   #108 
  - "Well the politics may have changed, but the facts haven't."  Ignis   Mar-31-10 04:52 PM   #27 
  - So true  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 05:11 PM   #29 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-31-10 05:00 PM   #28 
  - k&R  unapatriciated   Mar-31-10 05:27 PM   #34 
  - Fierce.  Bluebear   Mar-31-10 05:27 PM   #35 
  - Can't really take the credit  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 05:30 PM   #38 
  - But he never campaigned on it.  girl gone mad   Mar-31-10 05:33 PM   #39 
  - LOL! If anyone says that, point them to this DU link:  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 05:50 PM   #43 
  - Yeah -- I actually had my sigline deleted over that!  Zhade   Apr-03-10 02:18 AM   #142 
  - The position is that he's against oil addiction and that he's only doing this in cooperation with  craigmatic   Mar-31-10 05:34 PM   #40 
  - In my world that is called LYING your ass off.  earth mom   Mar-31-10 05:38 PM   #41 
  - Or throwing the GOP a win when they almost destroyed your big HCR bill  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 05:52 PM   #44 
     - Obama will throw California and the west coast under the bus soon enough. nt  earth mom   Apr-02-10 03:05 AM   #137 
  - An inconvenient truth  Starry Messenger   Mar-31-10 06:00 PM   #45 
  - Remember this about Social Security:  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 06:32 PM   #47 
     - And the war  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 06:38 PM   #48 
        - I'll bookmark, but I'm not sure if they care  Starry Messenger   Mar-31-10 07:00 PM   #63 
           - At least we know the blueprint now  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 07:02 PM   #65 
  - As everyone who is both honest and not stupid knows, Obama softened up on that...  BlooInBloo   Mar-31-10 06:45 PM   #50 
  - Many people were not aware of that  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 06:46 PM   #51 
  - Then many people shouldn't post.  BlooInBloo   Mar-31-10 06:52 PM   #55 
  - Many people do not post here and rely on what they see on television  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 06:55 PM   #57 
     - Because people who breathlessly post stuff that got superceded days later look like fools.  BlooInBloo   Mar-31-10 06:58 PM   #60 
        - But we're not talking about people who post here.  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 06:59 PM   #62 
           - In the immortal words of Tonto....  BlooInBloo   Mar-31-10 07:01 PM   #64 
              - Tonto is a Hollywood stereotype and invoking him is somewhat insensitive I think  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 07:04 PM   #66 
                 - Ask your friend with the entire well-known joke...  BlooInBloo   Mar-31-10 07:08 PM   #67 
                    - Oh, it's a joke.  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 07:28 PM   #69 
                       - Few of us are fond of such things. I guess that's why satire exists.  BlooInBloo   Mar-31-10 07:30 PM   #70 
                          - Like Stephen Colbert.  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 07:33 PM   #71 
  - Maybe such people should pay attention to waht they are voting for then  anigbrowl   Apr-01-10 01:53 AM   #119 
  - Funny he never softened anything when he campaigned in Florida and the  flyarm   Mar-31-10 08:03 PM   #76 
     - Many people have to rely on the ads that run in their state  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 08:08 PM   #78 
     - You never, ever learn....  BlooInBloo   Mar-31-10 08:51 PM   #86 
        - This clip was from a larger article from CNN's political blog. It contained both stances:  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 09:18 PM   #87 
           - I agree. People do like to pick and choose, hearing only the parts they want to hear...  BlooInBloo   Mar-31-10 09:35 PM   #91 
           - People hear what they are exposed to  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 09:44 PM   #92 
           - Self delete: wrong location  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 10:15 PM   #94 
           - wedid vote for other candidates in the Florida Primary..and our primary votes were stolen! eom  flyarm   Mar-31-10 11:28 PM   #103 
              - You mean the whole disqualification thing?  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 11:40 PM   #106 
                 - Q1. yes and they didn't. eom  flyarm   Mar-31-10 11:59 PM   #107 
                    - What did they actually do?  Nikki Stone1   Apr-01-10 12:55 AM   #109 
           - No quick answer to my detailed reply  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 10:34 PM   #97 
           - +100 nt  Mojorabbit   Apr-01-10 07:56 AM   #123 
  - Nice cherry-picking, by a usual suspect  scheming daemons   Mar-31-10 06:48 PM   #52 
  - Which Obama do you prescribe to?  Xicano   Apr-01-10 01:25 AM   #114 
     - That about covers the choices, doesn't it.  Nikki Stone1   Apr-01-10 01:31 AM   #115 
  - Candidate Obama and Senator Obama are different people  Ardent15   Mar-31-10 06:48 PM   #53 
  - But Democrats as still Democrats and  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 07:45 PM   #73 
     - Haven't you heard the meme? Liberal Democrats are now the far left.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Mar-31-10 08:40 PM   #85 
        - We are far from the far left  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 09:19 PM   #88 
           - Exactly.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-01-10 12:03 PM   #128 
              - Remember when we were the center of the party?  Nikki Stone1   Apr-01-10 09:37 PM   #136 
  - Is there some point at which we aren't expected to suspend our memory & cheer for whatever happens?  laughingliberal   Mar-31-10 06:55 PM   #56 
  - Being a Democrat  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 07:51 PM   #74 
  - .  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 09:53 PM   #93 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-31-10 08:09 PM   #79 
     - It reminds me of growing up Catholic  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 08:15 PM   #80 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-31-10 08:31 PM   #82 
        - Floridians protest offshore oil drilling; hundreds wear black  Nikki Stone1   Apr-01-10 01:05 AM   #110 
           - "Don't Drill Me, Bro"  Nikki Stone1   Apr-01-10 01:19 AM   #113 
  - I never liked that approach because even if its true that it would take 10 years to lower gas prices  aikoaiko   Mar-31-10 06:56 PM   #58 
  - I never thought it was about lowering gas prices; I think it's about providing oil to China  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 06:58 PM   #61 
  - I agreed with candidate Obama.  freddie mertz   Mar-31-10 07:10 PM   #68 
  - Didn't we all  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 07:35 PM   #72 
     - I think Pelosi said it best, "He was for a lot of things in the campaign." nt  laughingliberal   Apr-01-10 01:47 AM   #118 
        - Except for the public option of course....  freddie mertz   Apr-01-10 09:23 AM   #125 
  - K&R  amborin   Mar-31-10 08:32 PM   #83 
  - Thanks.  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 09:30 PM   #90 
  - K&R  Individualist   Mar-31-10 08:35 PM   #84 
  - President Obama is just getting in as much as he can when people are still cheering BEST WEEK EVER!!  Moochy   Mar-31-10 10:20 PM   #95 
  - Bait and switch?  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 10:33 PM   #96 
     - I listened to the audio book of Dreams from my Father  Moochy   Mar-31-10 11:05 PM   #98 
        - But is he horsetrading?  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 11:19 PM   #100 
        - supposedly  Moochy   Mar-31-10 11:33 PM   #104 
           - Well we know what happened in the Senate the last time  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 11:39 PM   #105 
        - nothing will be "worth it " politically when our eco system is destroyed! ..nothing! eom  flyarm   Apr-01-10 01:43 AM   #117 
  - He was opposing something different than what he is now advocating  usregimechange   Mar-31-10 11:05 PM   #99 
  - No, he used to be opposed to what he is presenting today  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 11:21 PM   #101 
  - Hope, Change, Status Quo, SNAFU  omega minimo   Mar-31-10 11:22 PM   #102 
  - Protests tonight in St. Pete  Nikki Stone1   Apr-01-10 01:14 AM   #112 
     - I can't keep up with the lies anymore  omega minimo   Apr-01-10 01:31 AM   #116 
     - Genius  anigbrowl   Apr-01-10 01:58 AM   #120 
        - You can't see that that symbolized an oil spill?  Bluebear   Apr-01-10 03:36 AM   #122 
        - Of course I can, it was even stated in the caption.  anigbrowl   Apr-01-10 01:00 PM   #130 
           - One reason the record has been good is the practice has been banned here!  omega minimo   Apr-01-10 02:47 PM   #132 
              - We have some Florida folks here  Nikki Stone1   Apr-01-10 07:29 PM   #135 
        - What "effective political action" do you participate in?  omega minimo   Apr-01-10 02:44 PM   #131 
           - acting smug on political message boards.  Bluebear   Apr-01-10 04:18 PM   #133 
              - .  omega minimo   Apr-01-10 05:11 PM   #134 
              - Ha!  Nikki Stone1   Apr-02-10 10:59 PM   #138 
  - He should have run on "Hope and Change My Mind".  Forkboy   Apr-01-10 08:02 AM   #124 
  - Or HOPE I don't totally CHANGE into a Republican. n/t  QC   Apr-01-10 09:27 AM   #126 
  - just like the mandate, just like the excise tax...etc.................  amborin   Apr-01-10 12:38 PM   #129 
  - Gee, more damning video evidence.  Zhade   Apr-03-10 02:11 AM   #140 

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