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6. Good, McCain is an ass. As for the announcement today:
Democrats have been moving toward this for a couple of years.

Obama was also saying the same thing then

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  -Obama, 2008: "This is a proposal that would only worsen our addiction to oil" Nikki Stone1  Mar-31-10 04:12 PM   #0 
  - Thanks - Hardball just played an old clip too. Obama was telling the truth then...  polichick   Mar-31-10 04:14 PM   #1 
  - now.  tyne   Mar-31-10 04:16 PM   #2 
  - Now is different  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 09:25 PM   #89 
  - I thought I remembered him being against it and someone informed me of this link  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:16 PM   #3 
  - They must hate it when people remember stuff N/T  court jester   Mar-31-10 05:19 PM   #31 
  - Well, memories are usually short  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 06:57 PM   #59 
  - they just showed that clip and a couple more when he campaigned in Florida..  flyarm   Mar-31-10 06:20 PM   #46 
     - This is what happens when politicians don't have to disclose their campaign contributors  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 06:40 PM   #49 
  - Change means you talk out of one side of your mouth then turn around and talk out of the other later  Go2Peace   Apr-01-10 02:51 AM   #121 
  - He said it both ways  Oregone   Mar-31-10 04:17 PM   #4 
  - Show me where he said he would drill. (I'm curious)  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:17 PM   #5 
     - There is this:  Oregone   Mar-31-10 04:24 PM   #12 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-31-10 04:31 PM   #15 
        - Well see, he shifted based on where he was in the campaign  Oregone   Mar-31-10 04:42 PM   #21 
           - Here is the DU posting of that very same video in June, 2008  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:46 PM   #23 
           - It's called capitulation...leadership is hard, that's why he doesn't do it..n/t  joeybee12   Mar-31-10 05:21 PM   #32 
           - Ouch!  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 05:25 PM   #33 
              - I know..the truth hurts...there isn't one RW meme that Obama hasn't  joeybee12   Mar-31-10 05:28 PM   #36 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-31-10 05:30 PM   #37 
                 - From the Sierra Club: They rallied just last month in Hands Across the Sand  Nikki Stone1   Apr-01-10 01:10 AM   #111 
           - Why run for President if you're not going to follow through on Promises?  newtothegame   Apr-01-10 11:58 AM   #127 
        - So you're cool with being lied to? Repeatedly?  Zhade   Apr-03-10 02:13 AM   #141 
  - Good, McCain is an ass. As for the announcement today:  ProSense   Mar-31-10 04:18 PM   #6 
  - I took the trouble to transcribe. When you do the same, I'll be happy to read it.  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:22 PM   #10 
  - So, because Democrats are doing it, it must be OK?  blindpig   Mar-31-10 04:51 PM   #26 
  - Well, he's made the RW talk show hosts in LA happy today  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 05:49 PM   #42 
  - Oh THAT makes it ALL okay then. Geez. Apparently we stand for nothing.  saracat   Mar-31-10 08:06 PM   #77 
     - Winning is everything.  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 08:17 PM   #81 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-31-10 04:19 PM   #7 
  - Thanks. I transcribe pretty quickly.  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:20 PM   #8 
  - Obama is just like the bible...you can find a quote of his to justify anything  katandmoon   Mar-31-10 04:21 PM   #9 
  - Find me the quote that justifies drilling  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:23 PM   #11 
  - LOL  Oregone   Mar-31-10 04:25 PM   #13 
     - Depends on when and what his angle is  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:36 PM   #17 
        - A circle has no angles  Oregone   Mar-31-10 04:40 PM   #18 
           - It also has no point.  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:42 PM   #20 
              - Oh, ouch!  laughingliberal   Mar-31-10 06:48 PM   #54 
                 - Hey just looking  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 08:03 PM   #75 
  - Addiction is a poor and inaccurate choce of words!  Newest Reality   Mar-31-10 04:29 PM   #14 
  - Peak Oil?  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:32 PM   #16 
  - Actually, oil is the center of things  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:42 PM   #19 
  - We could cut back pretty far with enough will  TheKentuckian   Apr-03-10 12:42 AM   #139 
  - i'm sure there's a 3-D chess pony in there some where.  KG   Mar-31-10 04:43 PM   #22 
  - It's all about being a circle  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 04:48 PM   #24 
     - he was against it before he was for it. before that, he categorically denied oils existance  KG   Mar-31-10 04:50 PM   #25 
     - Are you creating your own reality again?  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 05:12 PM   #30 
     - Chess on a string ....... or a yoyo.  Stinky The Clown   Apr-01-10 12:35 AM   #108 
  - "Well the politics may have changed, but the facts haven't."  Ignis   Mar-31-10 04:52 PM   #27 
  - So true  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 05:11 PM   #29 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-31-10 05:00 PM   #28 
  - k&R  unapatriciated   Mar-31-10 05:27 PM   #34 
  - Fierce.  Bluebear   Mar-31-10 05:27 PM   #35 
  - Can't really take the credit  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 05:30 PM   #38 
  - But he never campaigned on it.  girl gone mad   Mar-31-10 05:33 PM   #39 
  - LOL! If anyone says that, point them to this DU link:  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 05:50 PM   #43 
  - Yeah -- I actually had my sigline deleted over that!  Zhade   Apr-03-10 02:18 AM   #142 
  - The position is that he's against oil addiction and that he's only doing this in cooperation with  craigmatic   Mar-31-10 05:34 PM   #40 
  - In my world that is called LYING your ass off.  earth mom   Mar-31-10 05:38 PM   #41 
  - Or throwing the GOP a win when they almost destroyed your big HCR bill  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 05:52 PM   #44 
     - Obama will throw California and the west coast under the bus soon enough. nt  earth mom   Apr-02-10 03:05 AM   #137 
  - An inconvenient truth  Starry Messenger   Mar-31-10 06:00 PM   #45 
  - Remember this about Social Security:  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 06:32 PM   #47 
     - And the war  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 06:38 PM   #48 
        - I'll bookmark, but I'm not sure if they care  Starry Messenger   Mar-31-10 07:00 PM   #63 
           - At least we know the blueprint now  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 07:02 PM   #65 
  - As everyone who is both honest and not stupid knows, Obama softened up on that...  BlooInBloo   Mar-31-10 06:45 PM   #50 
  - Many people were not aware of that  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 06:46 PM   #51 
  - Then many people shouldn't post.  BlooInBloo   Mar-31-10 06:52 PM   #55 
  - Many people do not post here and rely on what they see on television  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 06:55 PM   #57 
     - Because people who breathlessly post stuff that got superceded days later look like fools.  BlooInBloo   Mar-31-10 06:58 PM   #60 
        - But we're not talking about people who post here.  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 06:59 PM   #62 
           - In the immortal words of Tonto....  BlooInBloo   Mar-31-10 07:01 PM   #64 
              - Tonto is a Hollywood stereotype and invoking him is somewhat insensitive I think  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 07:04 PM   #66 
                 - Ask your friend with the entire well-known joke...  BlooInBloo   Mar-31-10 07:08 PM   #67 
                    - Oh, it's a joke.  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 07:28 PM   #69 
                       - Few of us are fond of such things. I guess that's why satire exists.  BlooInBloo   Mar-31-10 07:30 PM   #70 
                          - Like Stephen Colbert.  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 07:33 PM   #71 
  - Maybe such people should pay attention to waht they are voting for then  anigbrowl   Apr-01-10 01:53 AM   #119 
  - Funny he never softened anything when he campaigned in Florida and the  flyarm   Mar-31-10 08:03 PM   #76 
     - Many people have to rely on the ads that run in their state  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 08:08 PM   #78 
     - You never, ever learn....  BlooInBloo   Mar-31-10 08:51 PM   #86 
        - This clip was from a larger article from CNN's political blog. It contained both stances:  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 09:18 PM   #87 
           - I agree. People do like to pick and choose, hearing only the parts they want to hear...  BlooInBloo   Mar-31-10 09:35 PM   #91 
           - People hear what they are exposed to  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 09:44 PM   #92 
           - Self delete: wrong location  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 10:15 PM   #94 
           - wedid vote for other candidates in the Florida Primary..and our primary votes were stolen! eom  flyarm   Mar-31-10 11:28 PM   #103 
              - You mean the whole disqualification thing?  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 11:40 PM   #106 
                 - Q1. yes and Q.2..no they didn't. eom  flyarm   Mar-31-10 11:59 PM   #107 
                    - What did they actually do?  Nikki Stone1   Apr-01-10 12:55 AM   #109 
           - No quick answer to my detailed reply  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 10:34 PM   #97 
           - +100 nt  Mojorabbit   Apr-01-10 07:56 AM   #123 
  - Nice cherry-picking, by a usual suspect  scheming daemons   Mar-31-10 06:48 PM   #52 
  - Which Obama do you prescribe to?  Xicano   Apr-01-10 01:25 AM   #114 
     - That about covers the choices, doesn't it.  Nikki Stone1   Apr-01-10 01:31 AM   #115 
  - Candidate Obama and Senator Obama are different people  Ardent15   Mar-31-10 06:48 PM   #53 
  - But Democrats as still Democrats and  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 07:45 PM   #73 
     - Haven't you heard the meme? Liberal Democrats are now the far left.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Mar-31-10 08:40 PM   #85 
        - We are far from the far left  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 09:19 PM   #88 
           - Exactly.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-01-10 12:03 PM   #128 
              - Remember when we were the center of the party?  Nikki Stone1   Apr-01-10 09:37 PM   #136 
  - Is there some point at which we aren't expected to suspend our memory & cheer for whatever happens?  laughingliberal   Mar-31-10 06:55 PM   #56 
  - Being a Democrat  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 07:51 PM   #74 
  - .  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 09:53 PM   #93 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-31-10 08:09 PM   #79 
     - It reminds me of growing up Catholic  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 08:15 PM   #80 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-31-10 08:31 PM   #82 
        - Floridians protest offshore oil drilling; hundreds wear black  Nikki Stone1   Apr-01-10 01:05 AM   #110 
           - "Don't Drill Me, Bro"  Nikki Stone1   Apr-01-10 01:19 AM   #113 
  - I never liked that approach because even if its true that it would take 10 years to lower gas prices  aikoaiko   Mar-31-10 06:56 PM   #58 
  - I never thought it was about lowering gas prices; I think it's about providing oil to China  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 06:58 PM   #61 
  - I agreed with candidate Obama.  freddie mertz   Mar-31-10 07:10 PM   #68 
  - Didn't we all  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 07:35 PM   #72 
     - I think Pelosi said it best, "He was for a lot of things in the campaign." nt  laughingliberal   Apr-01-10 01:47 AM   #118 
        - Except for the public option of course....  freddie mertz   Apr-01-10 09:23 AM   #125 
  - K&R  amborin   Mar-31-10 08:32 PM   #83 
  - Thanks.  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 09:30 PM   #90 
  - K&R  Individualist   Mar-31-10 08:35 PM   #84 
  - President Obama is just getting in as much as he can when people are still cheering BEST WEEK EVER!!  Moochy   Mar-31-10 10:20 PM   #95 
  - Bait and switch?  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 10:33 PM   #96 
     - I listened to the audio book of Dreams from my Father  Moochy   Mar-31-10 11:05 PM   #98 
        - But is he horsetrading?  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 11:19 PM   #100 
        - supposedly  Moochy   Mar-31-10 11:33 PM   #104 
           - Well we know what happened in the Senate the last time  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 11:39 PM   #105 
        - nothing will be "worth it " politically when our eco system is destroyed! ..nothing! eom  flyarm   Apr-01-10 01:43 AM   #117 
  - He was opposing something different than what he is now advocating  usregimechange   Mar-31-10 11:05 PM   #99 
  - No, he used to be opposed to what he is presenting today  Nikki Stone1   Mar-31-10 11:21 PM   #101 
  - Hope, Change, Status Quo, SNAFU  omega minimo   Mar-31-10 11:22 PM   #102 
  - Protests tonight in St. Pete  Nikki Stone1   Apr-01-10 01:14 AM   #112 
     - I can't keep up with the lies anymore  omega minimo   Apr-01-10 01:31 AM   #116 
     - Genius  anigbrowl   Apr-01-10 01:58 AM   #120 
        - You can't see that that symbolized an oil spill?  Bluebear   Apr-01-10 03:36 AM   #122 
        - Of course I can, it was even stated in the caption.  anigbrowl   Apr-01-10 01:00 PM   #130 
           - One reason the record has been good is the practice has been banned here!  omega minimo   Apr-01-10 02:47 PM   #132 
              - We have some Florida folks here  Nikki Stone1   Apr-01-10 07:29 PM   #135 
        - What "effective political action" do you participate in?  omega minimo   Apr-01-10 02:44 PM   #131 
           - acting smug on political message boards.  Bluebear   Apr-01-10 04:18 PM   #133 
              - .  omega minimo   Apr-01-10 05:11 PM   #134 
              - Ha!  Nikki Stone1   Apr-02-10 10:59 PM   #138 
  - He should have run on "Hope and Change My Mind".  Forkboy   Apr-01-10 08:02 AM   #124 
  - Or HOPE I don't totally CHANGE into a Republican. n/t  QC   Apr-01-10 09:27 AM   #126 
  - just like the mandate, just like the excise tax...etc.................  amborin   Apr-01-10 12:38 PM   #129 
  - Gee, more damning video evidence.  Zhade   Apr-03-10 02:11 AM   #140 
 

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