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Wed Mar-31-10 04:18 PM
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| 6. Good, McCain is an ass. As for the announcement today: |
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Democrats have been moving toward this for a couple of years. Obama was also saying the same thing then |
| -Obama, 2008: "This is a proposal that would only worsen our addiction to oil" |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 04:12 PM |
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Thanks - Hardball just played an old clip too. Obama was telling the truth then... |
polichick |
Mar-31-10 04:14 PM |
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now. |
tyne |
Mar-31-10 04:16 PM |
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Now is different |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 09:25 PM |
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I thought I remembered him being against it and someone informed me of this link |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 04:16 PM |
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They must hate it when people remember stuff N/T |
court jester |
Mar-31-10 05:19 PM |
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Well, memories are usually short |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 06:57 PM |
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they just showed that clip and a couple more when he campaigned in Florida.. |
flyarm |
Mar-31-10 06:20 PM |
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This is what happens when politicians don't have to disclose their campaign contributors |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 06:40 PM |
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Change means you talk out of one side of your mouth then turn around and talk out of the other later |
Go2Peace |
Apr-01-10 02:51 AM |
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He said it both ways |
Oregone |
Mar-31-10 04:17 PM |
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Show me where he said he would drill. (I'm curious) |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 04:17 PM |
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There is this: |
Oregone |
Mar-31-10 04:24 PM |
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Mar-31-10 04:31 PM |
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Well see, he shifted based on where he was in the campaign |
Oregone |
Mar-31-10 04:42 PM |
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Here is the DU posting of that very same video in June, 2008 |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 04:46 PM |
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It's called capitulation...leadership is hard, that's why he doesn't do it..n/t |
joeybee12 |
Mar-31-10 05:21 PM |
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Ouch! |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 05:25 PM |
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I know..the truth hurts...there isn't one RW meme that Obama hasn't |
joeybee12 |
Mar-31-10 05:28 PM |
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Mar-31-10 05:30 PM |
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From the Sierra Club: They rallied just last month in Hands Across the Sand |
Nikki Stone1 |
Apr-01-10 01:10 AM |
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Why run for President if you're not going to follow through on Promises? |
newtothegame |
Apr-01-10 11:58 AM |
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So you're cool with being lied to? Repeatedly? |
Zhade |
Apr-03-10 02:13 AM |
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Good, McCain is an ass. As for the announcement today: |
ProSense |
Mar-31-10 04:18 PM |
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I took the trouble to transcribe. When you do the same, I'll be happy to read it. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 04:22 PM |
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So, because Democrats are doing it, it must be OK? |
blindpig |
Mar-31-10 04:51 PM |
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Well, he's made the RW talk show hosts in LA happy today |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 05:49 PM |
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Oh THAT makes it ALL okay then. Geez. Apparently we stand for nothing. |
saracat |
Mar-31-10 08:06 PM |
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Winning is everything. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 08:17 PM |
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Mar-31-10 04:19 PM |
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Thanks. I transcribe pretty quickly. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 04:20 PM |
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Obama is just like the bible...you can find a quote of his to justify anything |
katandmoon |
Mar-31-10 04:21 PM |
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Find me the quote that justifies drilling |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 04:23 PM |
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LOL |
Oregone |
Mar-31-10 04:25 PM |
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Depends on when and what his angle is |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 04:36 PM |
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A circle has no angles |
Oregone |
Mar-31-10 04:40 PM |
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It also has no point. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 04:42 PM |
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Oh, ouch! |
laughingliberal |
Mar-31-10 06:48 PM |
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Hey just looking |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 08:03 PM |
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Addiction is a poor and inaccurate choce of words! |
Newest Reality |
Mar-31-10 04:29 PM |
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Peak Oil? |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 04:32 PM |
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Actually, oil is the center of things |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 04:42 PM |
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We could cut back pretty far with enough will |
TheKentuckian |
Apr-03-10 12:42 AM |
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i'm sure there's a 3-D chess pony in there some where. |
KG |
Mar-31-10 04:43 PM |
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It's all about being a circle |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 04:48 PM |
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he was against it before he was for it. before that, he categorically denied oils existance |
KG |
Mar-31-10 04:50 PM |
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Are you creating your own reality again? |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 05:12 PM |
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Chess on a string ....... or a yoyo. |
Stinky The Clown |
Apr-01-10 12:35 AM |
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"Well the politics may have changed, but the facts haven't." |
Ignis |
Mar-31-10 04:52 PM |
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So true |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 05:11 PM |
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Mar-31-10 05:00 PM |
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k&R |
unapatriciated |
Mar-31-10 05:27 PM |
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Fierce. |
Bluebear |
Mar-31-10 05:27 PM |
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Can't really take the credit |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 05:30 PM |
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But he never campaigned on it. |
girl gone mad |
Mar-31-10 05:33 PM |
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LOL! If anyone says that, point them to this DU link: |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 05:50 PM |
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Yeah -- I actually had my sigline deleted over that! |
Zhade |
Apr-03-10 02:18 AM |
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The position is that he's against oil addiction and that he's only doing this in cooperation with |
craigmatic |
Mar-31-10 05:34 PM |
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In my world that is called LYING your ass off. |
earth mom |
Mar-31-10 05:38 PM |
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Or throwing the GOP a win when they almost destroyed your big HCR bill |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 05:52 PM |
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Obama will throw California and the west coast under the bus soon enough. nt |
earth mom |
Apr-02-10 03:05 AM |
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An inconvenient truth |
Starry Messenger |
Mar-31-10 06:00 PM |
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Remember this about Social Security: |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 06:32 PM |
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And the war |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 06:38 PM |
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I'll bookmark, but I'm not sure if they care |
Starry Messenger |
Mar-31-10 07:00 PM |
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At least we know the blueprint now |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 07:02 PM |
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As everyone who is both honest and not stupid knows, Obama softened up on that... |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-31-10 06:45 PM |
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Many people were not aware of that |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 06:46 PM |
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Then many people shouldn't post. |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-31-10 06:52 PM |
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Many people do not post here and rely on what they see on television |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 06:55 PM |
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Because people who breathlessly post stuff that got superceded days later look like fools. |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-31-10 06:58 PM |
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But we're not talking about people who post here. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 06:59 PM |
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In the immortal words of Tonto.... |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-31-10 07:01 PM |
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Tonto is a Hollywood stereotype and invoking him is somewhat insensitive I think |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 07:04 PM |
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Ask your friend with the entire well-known joke... |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-31-10 07:08 PM |
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Oh, it's a joke. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 07:28 PM |
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Few of us are fond of such things. I guess that's why satire exists. |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-31-10 07:30 PM |
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Like Stephen Colbert. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 07:33 PM |
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Maybe such people should pay attention to waht they are voting for then |
anigbrowl |
Apr-01-10 01:53 AM |
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Funny he never softened anything when he campaigned in Florida and the |
flyarm |
Mar-31-10 08:03 PM |
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Many people have to rely on the ads that run in their state |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 08:08 PM |
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You never, ever learn.... |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-31-10 08:51 PM |
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This clip was from a larger article from CNN's political blog. It contained both stances: |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 09:18 PM |
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I agree. People do like to pick and choose, hearing only the parts they want to hear... |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-31-10 09:35 PM |
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People hear what they are exposed to |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 09:44 PM |
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Self delete: wrong location |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 10:15 PM |
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wedid vote for other candidates in the Florida Primary..and our primary votes were stolen! eom |
flyarm |
Mar-31-10 11:28 PM |
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You mean the whole disqualification thing? |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 11:40 PM |
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Q1. yes and Q.2..no they didn't. eom |
flyarm |
Mar-31-10 11:59 PM |
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What did they actually do? |
Nikki Stone1 |
Apr-01-10 12:55 AM |
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No quick answer to my detailed reply |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 10:34 PM |
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+100 nt |
Mojorabbit |
Apr-01-10 07:56 AM |
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Nice cherry-picking, by a usual suspect |
scheming daemons |
Mar-31-10 06:48 PM |
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Which Obama do you prescribe to? |
Xicano |
Apr-01-10 01:25 AM |
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That about covers the choices, doesn't it. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Apr-01-10 01:31 AM |
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Candidate Obama and Senator Obama are different people |
Ardent15 |
Mar-31-10 06:48 PM |
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But Democrats as still Democrats and |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 07:45 PM |
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Haven't you heard the meme? Liberal Democrats are now the far left. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Mar-31-10 08:40 PM |
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We are far from the far left |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 09:19 PM |
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Exactly. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-01-10 12:03 PM |
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Remember when we were the center of the party? |
Nikki Stone1 |
Apr-01-10 09:37 PM |
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Is there some point at which we aren't expected to suspend our memory & cheer for whatever happens? |
laughingliberal |
Mar-31-10 06:55 PM |
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Being a Democrat |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 07:51 PM |
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. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 09:53 PM |
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Mar-31-10 08:09 PM |
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It reminds me of growing up Catholic |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 08:15 PM |
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Mar-31-10 08:31 PM |
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Floridians protest offshore oil drilling; hundreds wear black |
Nikki Stone1 |
Apr-01-10 01:05 AM |
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"Don't Drill Me, Bro" |
Nikki Stone1 |
Apr-01-10 01:19 AM |
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I never liked that approach because even if its true that it would take 10 years to lower gas prices |
aikoaiko |
Mar-31-10 06:56 PM |
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I never thought it was about lowering gas prices; I think it's about providing oil to China |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 06:58 PM |
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I agreed with candidate Obama. |
freddie mertz |
Mar-31-10 07:10 PM |
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Didn't we all |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 07:35 PM |
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I think Pelosi said it best, "He was for a lot of things in the campaign." nt |
laughingliberal |
Apr-01-10 01:47 AM |
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Except for the public option of course.... |
freddie mertz |
Apr-01-10 09:23 AM |
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K&R |
amborin |
Mar-31-10 08:32 PM |
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Thanks. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 09:30 PM |
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K&R |
Individualist |
Mar-31-10 08:35 PM |
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President Obama is just getting in as much as he can when people are still cheering BEST WEEK EVER!! |
Moochy |
Mar-31-10 10:20 PM |
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Bait and switch? |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 10:33 PM |
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I listened to the audio book of Dreams from my Father |
Moochy |
Mar-31-10 11:05 PM |
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But is he horsetrading? |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 11:19 PM |
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supposedly |
Moochy |
Mar-31-10 11:33 PM |
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Well we know what happened in the Senate the last time |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 11:39 PM |
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nothing will be "worth it " politically when our eco system is destroyed! ..nothing! eom |
flyarm |
Apr-01-10 01:43 AM |
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He was opposing something different than what he is now advocating |
usregimechange |
Mar-31-10 11:05 PM |
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No, he used to be opposed to what he is presenting today |
Nikki Stone1 |
Mar-31-10 11:21 PM |
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Hope, Change, Status Quo, SNAFU |
omega minimo |
Mar-31-10 11:22 PM |
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Protests tonight in St. Pete |
Nikki Stone1 |
Apr-01-10 01:14 AM |
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I can't keep up with the lies anymore |
omega minimo |
Apr-01-10 01:31 AM |
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Genius |
anigbrowl |
Apr-01-10 01:58 AM |
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You can't see that that symbolized an oil spill? |
Bluebear |
Apr-01-10 03:36 AM |
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Of course I can, it was even stated in the caption. |
anigbrowl |
Apr-01-10 01:00 PM |
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One reason the record has been good is the practice has been banned here! |
omega minimo |
Apr-01-10 02:47 PM |
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We have some Florida folks here |
Nikki Stone1 |
Apr-01-10 07:29 PM |
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What "effective political action" do you participate in? |
omega minimo |
Apr-01-10 02:44 PM |
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acting smug on political message boards. |
Bluebear |
Apr-01-10 04:18 PM |
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. |
omega minimo |
Apr-01-10 05:11 PM |
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Ha! |
Nikki Stone1 |
Apr-02-10 10:59 PM |
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He should have run on "Hope and Change My Mind". |
Forkboy |
Apr-01-10 08:02 AM |
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Or HOPE I don't totally CHANGE into a Republican. n/t |
QC |
Apr-01-10 09:27 AM |
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just like the mandate, just like the excise tax...etc................. |
amborin |
Apr-01-10 12:38 PM |
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Gee, more damning video evidence. |
Zhade |
Apr-03-10 02:11 AM |
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