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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:13 AM
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32. Both the GOP and Democrats misled everyone into thinking that HCR was "socialist" / "social program"
The bill is decidedly corporatist, hatched at the Heritage Foundation, and creates a siphon for taxpayer money to feed the health insurance industry by mandate, under penalty of fine, or, in certain cases, imprisonment. (And yeah, I've read the bill. If you don't pay your fine in a "timely" manner, you could be imprisoned).
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  -Frank Rich: The Rage Is Not About Health Care cal04  Mar-27-10 08:40 PM   #0 
  - Ding! Ding! Frank Rich speaks the truth  MadMaddie   Mar-27-10 08:46 PM   #1 
  - I know. Sometimes I'm actually nostalgic for the 1990s.  CBHagman   Mar-27-10 08:59 PM   #10 
  - Back in the 1950's and 1960's  Jeff In Milwaukee   Mar-28-10 05:48 AM   #39 
     - "The John Birch Society", as sung by the Chad Mitchell Trio:  WinkyDink   Mar-28-10 11:33 AM   #56 
     - thanks for posting this! I'm old enough to remember it and  Lifelong Protester   Mar-28-10 12:53 PM   #61 
     - This time around though the environment is different  MadMaddie   Mar-28-10 07:03 PM   #94 
  - Quite true. n/t  Fire1   Mar-28-10 03:50 PM   #77 
  - but this amount of rage is above and beyond what Clinton faced.  AlbertCat   Mar-28-10 06:08 PM   #86 
  - He's right: the rage is about racism.  CaliforniaPeggy   Mar-27-10 08:49 PM   #2 
  - Yep.  blue neen   Mar-27-10 08:54 PM   #6 
  - Classism also.  KillCapitalism   Mar-28-10 01:09 AM   #29 
  - It is the health care bill itself that is classist  eridani   Mar-28-10 04:59 AM   #38 
  - No. The rage is not about racism. It's about the GOP creating rage to win in November  Nikki Stone1   Mar-28-10 02:10 AM   #31 
  - CORRECT  Skittles   Mar-28-10 02:23 AM   #34 
  - yep, Nikki's right  newspeak   Mar-28-10 09:44 PM   #103 
  - Part of the rage is about racism.  Hansel   Mar-28-10 02:20 PM   #73 
  - It's a tool, not a cause  Nikki Stone1   Mar-28-10 05:04 PM   #83 
  - Riiight...  Bobbie Jo   Mar-28-10 02:43 PM   #74 
  - that liberty cartoon? Is that supposed to be a cartoon?  newspeak   Mar-28-10 09:42 PM   #102 
     - Just another "faux creation," I suppose.  Bobbie Jo   Mar-29-10 12:22 AM   #107 
  - decided to make themselves "relevant" by banding together....  AlbertCat   Mar-28-10 06:14 PM   #87 
  - The GOP strategizing and the general public freakouts can be two different things  Posteritatis   Mar-28-10 06:25 PM   #89 
  - +1  leeroysphitz   Mar-28-10 07:47 PM   #97 
  - I have wondered if Hillary had been nominated and won, would this be happening? I think it would.  pampango   Mar-28-10 06:37 AM   #40 
  - Might have once. Not so much today. Women do have too much presence...  TheMadMonk   Mar-28-10 08:51 AM   #42 
  - Yes it would be happening if it were Hillary or Biden. Race is one flashpoint used by the Right  KittyWampus   Mar-28-10 09:47 AM   #45 
     - Race is one flashpoint used by the Right  AlbertCat   Mar-28-10 06:21 PM   #88 
  - The Faces of Hate from Brown vs The Board of Education  Mojeoux   Mar-28-10 01:50 PM   #67 
     - race and religion  newspeak   Mar-28-10 09:50 PM   #105 
  - Every person who considers themselves teabag-leaning should  The Wielding Truth   Mar-27-10 08:51 PM   #3 
  - Every teabagger should be rounded up and forced to submit to the tatooing of the word McVeigh across  leeroysphitz   Mar-28-10 07:58 PM   #99 
  - Mr. Rich is worth the wait. Rec'd. nt  babylonsister   Mar-27-10 08:51 PM   #4 
  - Everybody knows it. Most prefer to lie about it.  BlooInBloo   Mar-27-10 08:53 PM   #5 
  - "...curious that a mob fond of likening President Obama to Hitler knows so little about history that  izzybeans   Mar-27-10 08:56 PM   #7 
  - Frank Rich, Bravo. As always.  madaboutharry   Mar-27-10 08:57 PM   #8 
  - Those stoopid tea bagging wrinkle factories will soon be a minority  DainBramaged   Mar-27-10 08:59 PM   #9 
  - Wow, what a coincidence that study came out only a week before the vote.  gtar100   Mar-28-10 01:35 PM   #64 
  - KnR  Hekate   Mar-27-10 09:03 PM   #11 
  - K&R....n/t  unkachuck   Mar-27-10 09:04 PM   #12 
  - Their irrational rage only insures that HCR will be successful beyond their wildest dreams  MajorChode   Mar-27-10 09:08 PM   #13 
  - K&R #19 for, I say for free what big, famous pundits say for cash and prestige!1  UTUSN   Mar-27-10 09:10 PM   #14 
  - Yep. I didn't see ANY of these people.......  Rage Inc.   Mar-27-10 09:12 PM   #15 
  - I agree with everything except his last sentence  lunatica   Mar-27-10 09:13 PM   #16 
  - Fear of the tea baggers  will_in_chicago   Mar-27-10 09:26 PM   #20 
  - I think the OP ...  Kweli4Real   Mar-28-10 10:15 AM   #47 
     - I got what you're saying but still think that the word fear is not correct  lunatica   Mar-28-10 11:06 AM   #50 
  - Yep, I pointed this out last week  HughMoran   Mar-27-10 09:20 PM   #17 
  - If they're insanely angry over this, we should have gone with single payer.  aquart   Mar-27-10 09:21 PM   #18 
  - I really liked the accompaning Tea Bag image!  pnorman   Mar-27-10 09:21 PM   #19 
  - Kicked&Recommended!  butterfly77   Mar-27-10 09:37 PM   #21 
  - Sure, none of these phony-ass republican fuckers want to *own their own shrieking words* and so...  bridgit   Mar-27-10 09:46 PM   #22 
  - K & R - great article and very true.  Raksha   Mar-27-10 10:26 PM   #23 
  - Duplicate  Raksha   Mar-27-10 10:28 PM   #24 
  - mr rich hits the nail on the head.....thank you sir!  spanone   Mar-27-10 10:32 PM   #25 
  - I still say ......  lunasun   Mar-27-10 10:56 PM   #26 
  - Our rage should be directed at the drug companies.  riverbendviewgal   Mar-27-10 10:58 PM   #27 
  - I wish just once that Obama would look straight in to the camera and say . . .  Major Hogwash   Mar-27-10 11:41 PM   #28 
  - Of course not. It's mostly about unfounded attacks and doomsday theories.  alp227   Mar-28-10 01:47 AM   #30 
  - Both the GOP and Democrats misled everyone into thinking that HCR was "socialist" / "social program"  Nikki Stone1   Mar-28-10 02:13 AM   #32 
  - This is the browning of the shirts  upi402   Mar-28-10 02:20 AM   #33 
  - I think I found the key paragraphs at the link: White population is declining to a minority...  Hekate   Mar-28-10 02:48 AM   #35 
  - Therein lies the rub. In the 2008 election, Hispanics gave Obama almost 75% of the vote. Jews gave  Rozlee   Mar-28-10 11:12 AM   #52 
     - Now that's interesting -- the "Catholic vote" used to be Irish; now the Irish are well-assimilated  Hekate   Mar-28-10 11:40 AM   #57 
        - so how long before we become a giant melting pot?  newspeak   Mar-28-10 08:34 PM   #100 
  - I find it hard to believe that 16% of teabaggers claim to be Democrats.  lamp_shade   Mar-28-10 03:21 AM   #36 
  - Not so hard to understand when you realize that the real political center is  RC   Mar-28-10 11:41 AM   #58 
  - Excellent article.. everyone should go to the link and read the whole thing...  DCBob   Mar-28-10 03:39 AM   #37 
  - This reminds me of the readings I did in my environmental science  newspeak   Mar-28-10 09:40 PM   #101 
  - They want to take the country back  The Wizard   Mar-28-10 07:57 AM   #41 
  - Whooo-hooo! That is a good one. May I use it?  Lifelong Protester   Mar-28-10 01:02 PM   #62 
     - Go ahead  The Wizard   Mar-28-10 05:37 PM   #85 
  - K& a BIG BIG F'n R! Hits nail right on the head!  BumRushDaShow   Mar-28-10 09:02 AM   #43 
  - HUGE K & R !!!  WillyT   Mar-28-10 09:40 AM   #44 
  - K&R!  classof56   Mar-28-10 10:01 AM   #46 
  - KK&RR  orbitalman   Mar-28-10 10:18 AM   #48 
  - I didn't need Frank Rich to tell me that. K&R  Fire1   Mar-28-10 11:01 AM   #49 
  - Opposition to HCR is SO none-sensical as to reveal that SOMETHING ELSE is at work here & FR nails  patrice   Mar-28-10 11:09 AM   #51 
  - Yeah, opposition to mandatory private health insurance is racist.  Leopolds Ghost   Mar-28-10 09:47 PM   #104 
  - I wonder if the economy has anything to do with the underlying problems.  Mithreal   Mar-28-10 11:21 AM   #53 
  - Mr Rich hit two points that the media have continuously misrepresented  me b zola   Mar-28-10 11:22 AM   #54 
  - +1  Bobbie Jo   Mar-29-10 01:26 AM   #108 
  - In brief: Racism.  WinkyDink   Mar-28-10 11:28 AM   #55 
  - Rich says what I've thought for a while...................  socialist_n_TN   Mar-28-10 11:56 AM   #59 
  - This was an excellent editorial.  Lifelong Protester   Mar-28-10 12:51 PM   #60 
  - All republicans are simply frightened hateful ignorant racist - This is an ovious & proven fact.  LaPera   Mar-28-10 01:12 PM   #63 
  - No, all Republicans are NOT racists. nt  Captain Hilts   Mar-28-10 01:55 PM   #69 
     - No, just not the ones who vote republican and for republicans ideology?  LaPera   Mar-28-10 01:59 PM   #70 
  - Keep stirring the racism pot. No danger in that.  Mithreal   Mar-28-10 01:43 PM   #65 
  - If the shoe fits - Then there's only danger in ignoring it & pretending it doesn't exsit....  LaPera   Mar-28-10 01:50 PM   #68 
  - Wrt actual prejudice and racism, I am right there with you.  Mithreal   Mar-28-10 06:52 PM   #93 
  - Shhhh. There's racism but it will go away if we ignore it.  Hansel   Mar-28-10 04:00 PM   #79 
     - I don't disagree. There is something about this that bothers me, that  Mithreal   Mar-28-10 06:47 PM   #92 
  - Just a suggestion, but is it possible that they are mostly enraged because they have, in effect,  Joe Chi Minh   Mar-28-10 01:48 PM   #66 
  - K&R  Bobbie Jo   Mar-28-10 01:59 PM   #71 
  - He is so right....  femrap   Mar-28-10 02:19 PM   #72 
  - The Teabaggers are just the 21st century Klan..  ddeclue   Mar-28-10 02:45 PM   #75 
  - I agree with Frank Rich again as I usually always do.  GreenTea   Mar-28-10 02:46 PM   #76 
  - Of course, it's's about stupid  Cha   Mar-28-10 03:56 PM   #78 
  - It's a good article but leaves out the FreedomWorks angle, the intentional agitation angle.  bos1   Mar-28-10 04:19 PM   #80 
  - The intentional agitation of racism, that is...  Bobbie Jo   Mar-28-10 04:33 PM   #81 
  - No, it's about MANDATING WE PAY TAXES TO PRIVATE HEALTH CARE CORPORATIONS!  grahamhgreen   Mar-28-10 04:39 PM   #82 
  - really? that's what the Tea Party's are about?  bos1   Mar-28-10 05:35 PM   #84 
     - Who gives a shit what the Tea Partiers think? Us LIBERALS oppose this bill.  Leopolds Ghost   Mar-28-10 09:51 PM   #106 
        - uh, hate to break it to you, but there is no bill to oppose anymore.  bos1   Mar-29-10 02:59 AM   #109 
  - k/r  FourScore   Mar-28-10 06:30 PM   #90 
  - I don't agree, I work with these people...  humbled_opinion   Mar-28-10 06:40 PM   #91 
  - I disagree. Those that I know are afraid, very afraid. But none are as ecucated as you describe.  rhett o rick   Mar-28-10 07:05 PM   #95 
  - Well I can only account for those that I work with  humbled_opinion   Mar-28-10 07:30 PM   #96 
     - I feel if we the people are to succeed in the reestablishment of freedom  rhett o rick   Mar-29-10 09:32 AM   #111 
  - You have a point, but we are talking about the rage. You are talking the calmer (if still misled)  bos1   Mar-29-10 04:14 AM   #110 
  - I've been saying all along, it's about the racism! n/t  RoccoR5955   Mar-28-10 07:53 PM   #98 
  - Kick  Scurrilous   Mar-29-10 09:42 AM   #112 

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