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Mon Mar-22-10 02:06 PM
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| 76. I hear people in Europe saying that all the time. Friends in France, Germany, England ALL |
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say that. Maybe we have different friends. Yes, they say "if they didn't own a car, they literally could not live where they choose to live, have the home they choose to have, or keep the job they currently have."
Maybe you only know people living in the city whereas I know people who live outside cities?
It isn't simply USA, though I agree that we do need more public transportation.
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| -The car Insurance analogy is a correct one |
WeekendWarrior |
Mar-22-10 10:35 AM |
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No, it's not. No one is forcing you to live where you live. |
ixion |
Mar-22-10 10:37 AM |
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Name removed |
Mar-22-10 10:42 AM |
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re: "I swear to god you sound like a Republican." |
Earth_First |
Mar-22-10 10:44 AM |
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Not at all. IS someone forcing you to live in CA? |
ixion |
Mar-22-10 10:45 AM |
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Yes. Reality. |
WeekendWarrior |
Mar-22-10 10:52 AM |
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Reality is of your own creation. |
ixion |
Mar-22-10 10:57 AM |
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How does it feel having to twist logic to make |
WeekendWarrior |
Mar-22-10 10:59 AM |
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LOL.. you're the one who's twisting... |
ixion |
Mar-22-10 11:01 AM |
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Snark? |
WeekendWarrior |
Mar-22-10 11:05 AM |
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Feel free to use it... |
ixion |
Mar-22-10 11:08 AM |
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There is no way for me to legally leave the US |
laughingliberal |
Mar-22-10 11:30 AM |
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'Basically free' |
TransitJohn |
Mar-22-10 11:01 AM |
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Reality is it fits your life to live there and if it no longer did you would move |
laughingliberal |
Mar-22-10 11:16 AM |
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That's Was Reagan's Answer To Joblessness-"You Can Vote With Your Feet" |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-22-10 10:46 AM |
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No one is forcing you to live in America either... |
DCBob |
Mar-22-10 10:43 AM |
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People like you are like the opposite side of the coin from the neocons |
ixion |
Mar-22-10 10:46 AM |
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Actually you would still be subject to the tax/fine even if living outside the US. |
Statistical |
Mar-22-10 10:47 AM |
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That's true. If you're paying taxes in the US and not covered by the other country's health plan |
laughingliberal |
Mar-22-10 11:22 AM |
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Actually, that's not precisely true |
laughingliberal |
Mar-22-10 11:21 AM |
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To me, |
Frances |
Mar-22-10 10:46 AM |
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Except insurance for your car is not required. |
Statistical |
Mar-22-10 10:49 AM |
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But don't you injure my financial health |
Frances |
Mar-22-10 12:30 PM |
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Nah that isn't freeper |
Naturalist111 |
Mar-22-10 05:23 PM |
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WTF? Not everyone can live in the few areas with good public transportation. Get a grip. |
Yellow Horse |
Mar-22-10 10:52 AM |
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Except when I'm trashing the Republicans |
ixion |
Mar-22-10 10:59 AM |
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How am I a "party loyalist" when I say I need a car and can't move somewhere else? |
Yellow Horse |
Mar-22-10 11:02 AM |
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because you're staying on message |
ixion |
Mar-22-10 11:10 AM |
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I don't need to "attack" you. You are doing a good job on yourself. |
Yellow Horse |
Mar-22-10 02:12 PM |
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And you are what, exactly? |
Ikonoklast |
Mar-22-10 02:16 PM |
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Yes, living without a car puts a crimp in lifestyles. No doubt about it |
laughingliberal |
Mar-22-10 11:24 AM |
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Living without food isn't so fun, either. |
Yellow Horse |
Mar-22-10 02:14 PM |
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lots of people in LA, driving cap of world, do not drive |
amborin |
Mar-22-10 12:40 PM |
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So you're going to pay to help move everyone to a location where they don't need a car |
LynneSin |
Mar-22-10 01:26 PM |
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yeah got it |
Sheepshank |
Mar-22-10 02:14 PM |
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Not an exact comparison but close enough in terms of reality. |
DCBob |
Mar-22-10 10:38 AM |
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Keep trying. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-22-10 10:39 AM |
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Actually, it's not |
derby378 |
Mar-22-10 10:39 AM |
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Driving a car may be a privilege |
WeekendWarrior |
Mar-22-10 10:44 AM |
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Yes. Your lifestyle would be impacted. Living without a body? Well, that's more serious. nt |
laughingliberal |
Mar-22-10 11:26 AM |
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Privilege? |
Naturalist111 |
Mar-22-10 05:46 PM |
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You know, come to think of it my wife did hold me at gunpoint this morning... |
Earth_First |
Mar-22-10 10:41 AM |
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Fail |
Individualist |
Mar-22-10 10:42 AM |
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why especially in CA? |
cali |
Mar-22-10 10:43 AM |
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Most people in California |
WeekendWarrior |
Mar-22-10 10:46 AM |
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that's no more true in CA than it is in Alaska or Texas |
cali |
Mar-22-10 10:49 AM |
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Then I guess you would need a car, wouldn't you? |
WeekendWarrior |
Mar-22-10 10:53 AM |
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And if you didn't have one your lifestyle would suffer. |
laughingliberal |
Mar-22-10 11:29 AM |
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EPIC fail n/t |
Donnachaidh |
Mar-22-10 10:43 AM |
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Purchasing a car and driving it are totally voluntary. |
Warpy |
Mar-22-10 10:43 AM |
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What? No public transit in California? |
ClassWarrior |
Mar-22-10 10:43 AM |
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no, not really you're completely wrong. |
Lerkfish |
Mar-22-10 10:43 AM |
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I have no problem with the mandate, but it is still a poor analogy. |
tritsofme |
Mar-22-10 10:43 AM |
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Corollary: You can't NOT have a body. |
frazzled |
Mar-22-10 10:43 AM |
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I don't think there is a good analogy. This mandate is new ground. |
GodlessBiker |
Mar-22-10 10:44 AM |
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No you don't you CHOOSE to drive (as do I). |
Statistical |
Mar-22-10 10:46 AM |
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Only in that those who have to buy high risk coverage won't be |
ScreamingMeemie |
Mar-22-10 10:48 AM |
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and bike riders? |
G_j |
Mar-22-10 10:50 AM |
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Well, yes and no |
tularetom |
Mar-22-10 10:52 AM |
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This is correct on yet another level... |
Bobbie Jo |
Mar-22-10 10:58 AM |
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Still does not change the fact that it is possible to live without a car |
laughingliberal |
Mar-22-10 11:34 AM |
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Of course that wasn't the point I was making... |
Bobbie Jo |
Mar-22-10 11:49 AM |
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The bill will allow some to purchase health insurance who can't currently afford it |
laughingliberal |
Mar-22-10 12:14 PM |
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I see what you're saying... |
Bobbie Jo |
Mar-22-10 12:39 PM |
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Are approximately half of the bankruptcies in this country due to car repairs? |
Lars39 |
Mar-22-10 11:09 AM |
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I disagree. It is not only logically possible to not drive, but many people, in reality, do not. nt. |
Hosnon |
Mar-22-10 11:11 AM |
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No, it's not |
laughingliberal |
Mar-22-10 11:13 AM |
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I understand your point and get irked at those who say things like... |
uppityperson |
Mar-22-10 11:15 AM |
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The big difference is though that it is *possible* to do those things, make those choices.. |
Fumesucker |
Mar-22-10 11:26 AM |
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Correct. What we see here is those who equate their lifestyle with their life |
laughingliberal |
Mar-22-10 12:15 PM |
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It is not *possible* for me to stay alive without a car |
uppityperson |
Mar-22-10 01:57 PM |
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There are lots of people that live in the US without a car.. |
Fumesucker |
Mar-22-10 02:12 PM |
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For some, a car is an option. For some, it is not. For those it is not an option, neither is insuran |
uppityperson |
Mar-22-10 02:20 PM |
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Yes, a car is an option.. |
Fumesucker |
Mar-22-10 02:33 PM |
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I agree with the OP |
samrock |
Mar-22-10 11:23 AM |
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Agree all you want. Going without a car affects a person's lifestyle |
laughingliberal |
Mar-22-10 12:18 PM |
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Which Federal law..... |
dems_rightnow |
Mar-22-10 11:57 AM |
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Another fallacy in this auto insurance argument. Those are all state laws. nt |
laughingliberal |
Mar-22-10 12:37 PM |
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ANOTHER fallacy: you DON' T have to buy car insurance EVEN IF you drive a car |
Occulus |
Mar-22-10 12:46 PM |
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There are several reasons, aside from car ownership being voluntary, that it's a bad analogy |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-22-10 12:50 PM |
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The fact that so many Americans believe it is essential to have a car, |
Berry Cool |
Mar-22-10 01:03 PM |
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+1000 nt |
laughingliberal |
Mar-22-10 01:06 PM |
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I hear people in Europe saying that all the time. Friends in France, Germany, England ALL |
uppityperson |
Mar-22-10 02:06 PM |
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Thank you. -nt- |
DireStrike |
Mar-22-10 02:08 PM |
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NO IT ISN'T... YOU CAN F___ING MOVE !!!!! |
Motown_Johnny |
Mar-22-10 01:28 PM |
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Find me a job in the city. Seriously. Find me a place to live. Find me a buyer for |
uppityperson |
Mar-22-10 02:03 PM |
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I didn't say it would be easy. Still the fact remains that it is only your lifestyle that makes you |
Motown_Johnny |
Mar-22-10 05:49 PM |
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I'm too old for the army. Try again. |
uppityperson |
Mar-22-10 08:05 PM |
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in my state you only have to buy insurance against the damage you do to somebody else |
librechik |
Mar-22-10 02:05 PM |
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No, it is a rough analogy that ends up more lie than truth |
TheKentuckian |
Mar-22-10 02:22 PM |
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Let me help you on this one |
Naturalist111 |
Mar-22-10 05:19 PM |
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I wish this would just die. |
AngryOldDem |
Mar-22-10 05:51 PM |
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The whole world isn't California. |
undeterred |
Mar-22-10 08:11 PM |
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