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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 09:05 PM
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80. I think a lot of states would go in that direction, it's what citizens wants . . .
Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 09:06 PM by defendandprotect
and obviously NOT what insurance companies want and Pelosi is trying to keep the

issue at bay to help them, though her own state CA wants to try it . . .

at least that's how I'm seeing it.

There's a State Rep. in California I've always admired -- Sheila Kuehl? -- don't know

if I have the first name right. And she's been working on this for years.

Just a side note, she used to be "Zelda"? on Dobbie Gillis show long, long time ago!

She was a lesbian and kinda got thrown out of Hollywood. So I've kinda been interested

in her work -- like her enormously.

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  -Obama blocks single-payer at the state level defendandprotect  Mar-20-10 09:40 PM   #0 
  - So much for "Change".  Odin2005   Mar-20-10 09:41 PM   #1 
  - I still have change  DJ13   Mar-20-10 09:42 PM   #2 
  - Chains you can believe in.  Political Heretic   Mar-20-10 09:43 PM   #3 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-20-10 09:45 PM   #6 
  - nice  d_b   Mar-20-10 10:14 PM   #22 
  - There ya go....  readmoreoften   Mar-20-10 10:41 PM   #34 
  - Vile  kenny blankenship   Mar-20-10 09:44 PM   #4 
  - Where is this quote....cause I couldn't find it at the link......  FrenchieCat   Mar-20-10 09:44 PM   #5 
  - "Kucinich Amendment Dropped From Health Care Bill" . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-20-10 10:02 PM   #14 
  - What a Letdown. n/t  OhioChick   Mar-20-10 09:46 PM   #7 
  - Do you have a source? Your link is from blog entries from 2009.  NYC_SKP   Mar-20-10 09:50 PM   #8 
  - This thread can be studied for the difference between the  FrenchieCat   Mar-20-10 09:51 PM   #9 
  - "Pelosi Bill Strips Right of States to Adopt Single Payer" . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-20-10 10:04 PM   #15 
     - thank you for that n/t  upi402   Mar-21-10 01:16 AM   #48 
  - That doesn't even sound possible. I think more information is needed  EFerrari   Mar-20-10 09:53 PM   #10 
  - His amendment was removed back in November by the committee  tammywammy   Mar-20-10 09:55 PM   #11 
  - Multiple sources would be a good idea at this point, with no disrespect intended  EFerrari   Mar-20-10 10:01 PM   #12 
  - Huffington Post/Washington Independent . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-20-10 10:08 PM   #16 
     - Thank you for those links.  EFerrari   Mar-20-10 10:12 PM   #17 
        - How about Florida 2000? Are you kidding?  defendandprotect   Mar-20-10 10:13 PM   #19 
           - Well, that's a good point. I was thinking it was more like trying to block  EFerrari   Mar-20-10 10:15 PM   #24 
              - Homosexual marriage would be the same thing -- DOMA . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-20-10 10:31 PM   #30 
  - No. It was not removed by the committee.  bvar22   Mar-20-10 11:01 PM   #40 
     - Thanks for the correction. n/t  tammywammy   Mar-20-10 11:18 PM   #41 
     - So he caved AND lost his amendment?  aquart   Mar-21-10 12:04 AM   #44 
     - Dennis hasn't "caved" nearly as many times as Obama over the last year.  bvar22   Mar-21-10 10:26 PM   #84 
     - have you noticed the pattern too?  Donnachaidh   Mar-21-10 07:59 PM   #69 
     - Thank you!! Kucinich also made clear in the Goodman interview ...  defendandprotect   Mar-21-10 08:09 PM   #70 
  - More info --  defendandprotect   Mar-20-10 10:12 PM   #18 
     - I totally missed this wrinkle, too. n/t  EFerrari   Mar-20-10 10:13 PM   #21 
     - So in otherwords, you don't have any real sources that back up  FrenchieCat   Mar-20-10 10:15 PM   #23 
        - Huffington Post and Kucinich, himself, are not "sources" . . .????  defendandprotect   Mar-20-10 10:24 PM   #27 
        - Did you read the thread? The poster is catching up with this bit of things.  EFerrari   Mar-20-10 10:34 PM   #32 
  - Pelosi said today she won't allow a seperate vote, "not on single payer, not on anything"  Better Believe It   Mar-20-10 10:02 PM   #13 
  - ERISA would not necessarily block the PA plan, according to some.  drm604   Mar-20-10 10:13 PM   #20 
  - As it was put ... "bill provides no safeguards to protect states from lawsuits ...  defendandprotect   Mar-20-10 10:28 PM   #28 
     - It provides no protection from lawsuits but...  drm604   Mar-20-10 10:53 PM   #37 
        - As I said I was totally unaware of this whole issue . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-20-10 11:30 PM   #43 
  - Bullshit  Zomby Woof   Mar-20-10 10:16 PM   #25 
  - With respect, Gavin is not known for his legislative acumen.  EFerrari   Mar-20-10 10:50 PM   #36 
  - Gavin conveniently leaves out  Luminous Animal   Mar-21-10 02:26 PM   #65 
     - SF was sued under ERISA and "costly legal fight for the city." --  defendandprotect   Mar-21-10 08:19 PM   #71 
  - Obama: "I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program."  Karmadillo   Mar-20-10 10:17 PM   #26 
  - What was it Pelosi said: "He was in favor of a lot of things during the campaign . ..  defendandprotect   Mar-20-10 10:30 PM   #29 
     - You're right. I looked up the link. I guess the ends justify the lies.  Karmadillo   Mar-21-10 10:59 AM   #55 
        - Thank you . . . and it just struck me that Pelosi is working directly against CA citizens' interests  defendandprotect   Mar-21-10 08:24 PM   #73 
           - They don't sleep. They have to keep swimming or they drown.  Karmadillo   Mar-21-10 08:54 PM   #78 
  - "Nancy Pelosi acting on Obama's instructions has stripped the Kucinich amendment from HR 3200"  Cali_Democrat   Mar-20-10 10:33 PM   #31 
  - See here . . . "stripped from the bill by Nancy Pelosi behind closed doors"--  defendandprotect   Mar-21-10 09:13 PM   #81 
  - see! they told us Kucinich never accomplishes anything!  G_j   Mar-20-10 10:35 PM   #33 
  - what a load of pig crap!  Aramchek   Mar-20-10 10:47 PM   #35 
  - LINKS from 2009? WTF.... huh?.... and....unbelievable....14 RECS??? Do You People Even READ???  NYC_SKP   Mar-20-10 11:00 PM   #38 
  - This is DU  tammywammy   Mar-20-10 11:01 PM   #39 
  - Sanders & Wyden put it in the Senate bill: "SEC. 1332. WAIVER FOR STATE INNOVATION"  quiet.american   Mar-20-10 11:28 PM   #42 
  - Well, in the Goodman interview with Kucinich . ..  defendandprotect   Mar-21-10 08:30 PM   #75 
  - Why are you posting something from LAST YEAR?  WeekendWarrior   Mar-21-10 12:08 AM   #45 
  - past pull dated? n/t  upi402   Mar-21-10 12:12 AM   #46 
  - Irrelevent. HR3200 is dead. Let's talk about the current bill. nt  johnaries   Mar-21-10 12:16 AM   #47 
  - Single payer is "irrelevant"?  Lorien   Mar-21-10 01:56 AM   #51 
  - I think they have the bill they want.  laughingliberal   Mar-21-10 08:29 PM   #74 
  - We are talking about the "current bill" -- and a safeguard for states that want single payer . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-21-10 08:38 PM   #76 
  - From what I've been reading the waiver date of 2017 on Sec.1332 is more the problem  suffragette   Mar-21-10 01:41 AM   #49 
  - It does seem like the 2017 date is the real problem.  drm604   Mar-21-10 09:25 AM   #53 
  - The best way would probably be to have clearcut language  suffragette   Mar-21-10 11:57 AM   #56 
  - I agree wholeheartedly that it would be much better to have language  drm604   Mar-21-10 12:14 PM   #57 
     - We're both looking for the silver lining  suffragette   Mar-21-10 12:47 PM   #60 
        - Maybe The Keystone State can be the keystone for single payer.  drm604   Mar-21-10 01:08 PM   #61 
           - Symbolic and appropriate  suffragette   Mar-21-10 01:29 PM   #62 
              - My Uncle and cousins and their families are in the Spokane area  drm604   Mar-21-10 02:05 PM   #63 
                 - Spokane is on the other side of the Cascade mountains  suffragette   Mar-21-10 02:19 PM   #64 
                    - I got to live in Vancouver for five weeks for work back in '96.  drm604   Mar-21-10 02:27 PM   #66 
                       - Lucky you  suffragette   Mar-21-10 03:56 PM   #67 
  - Guess by 2017, the insurance companies would feel better about competition . . . !!!  defendandprotect   Mar-21-10 09:16 PM   #82 
  - Even more confusing . .. meanwhile, insurance companies have used ERISA for harassment  defendandprotect   Mar-21-10 08:48 PM   #77 
     - I hope PNHP as it right and we can push past ERISA  suffragette   Mar-21-10 10:36 PM   #85 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-21-10 01:53 AM   #50 
  - WTF?!  earth mom   Mar-21-10 04:33 AM   #52 
  - Yes  Trillo   Mar-21-10 10:36 AM   #54 
  - President Obama and Speaker Pelosi made  ProSense   Mar-21-10 12:17 PM   #58 
  - Reread what you've posted . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-21-10 09:00 PM   #79 
  - K & R  SlingBlade   Mar-21-10 12:44 PM   #59 
  - K and WTF.  NYC_SKP   Mar-21-10 05:02 PM   #68 
  - what, our state wants SIngle Payer?  tigereye   Mar-21-10 08:22 PM   #72 
  - I think a lot of states would go in that direction, it's what citizens wants . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-21-10 09:05 PM   #80 
     - wow, thanks for the info!  tigereye   Mar-21-10 10:50 PM   #86 
  - Is that true?  Tomorrows Dream   Mar-21-10 09:26 PM   #83 
 

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