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Sat Mar-20-10 10:34 PM
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| 32. Did you read the thread? The poster is catching up with this bit of things. |
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If you have more information, that would be helpful.
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| -Obama blocks single-payer at the state level |
defendandprotect |
Mar-20-10 09:40 PM |
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So much for "Change". |
Odin2005 |
Mar-20-10 09:41 PM |
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I still have change |
DJ13 |
Mar-20-10 09:42 PM |
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Chains you can believe in. |
Political Heretic |
Mar-20-10 09:43 PM |
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Mar-20-10 09:45 PM |
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nice |
d_b |
Mar-20-10 10:14 PM |
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There ya go.... |
readmoreoften |
Mar-20-10 10:41 PM |
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Vile |
kenny blankenship |
Mar-20-10 09:44 PM |
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Where is this quote....cause I couldn't find it at the link...... |
FrenchieCat |
Mar-20-10 09:44 PM |
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"Kucinich Amendment Dropped From Health Care Bill" . . . |
defendandprotect |
Mar-20-10 10:02 PM |
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What a Letdown. n/t |
OhioChick |
Mar-20-10 09:46 PM |
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Do you have a source? Your link is from blog entries from 2009. |
NYC_SKP |
Mar-20-10 09:50 PM |
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This thread can be studied for the difference between the |
FrenchieCat |
Mar-20-10 09:51 PM |
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"Pelosi Bill Strips Right of States to Adopt Single Payer" . . . |
defendandprotect |
Mar-20-10 10:04 PM |
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thank you for that n/t |
upi402 |
Mar-21-10 01:16 AM |
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That doesn't even sound possible. I think more information is needed |
EFerrari |
Mar-20-10 09:53 PM |
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His amendment was removed back in November by the committee |
tammywammy |
Mar-20-10 09:55 PM |
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Multiple sources would be a good idea at this point, with no disrespect intended |
EFerrari |
Mar-20-10 10:01 PM |
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Huffington Post/Washington Independent . . . |
defendandprotect |
Mar-20-10 10:08 PM |
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Thank you for those links. |
EFerrari |
Mar-20-10 10:12 PM |
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How about Florida 2000? Are you kidding? |
defendandprotect |
Mar-20-10 10:13 PM |
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Well, that's a good point. I was thinking it was more like trying to block |
EFerrari |
Mar-20-10 10:15 PM |
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Homosexual marriage would be the same thing -- DOMA . . . |
defendandprotect |
Mar-20-10 10:31 PM |
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No. It was not removed by the committee. |
bvar22 |
Mar-20-10 11:01 PM |
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Thanks for the correction. n/t |
tammywammy |
Mar-20-10 11:18 PM |
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So he caved AND lost his amendment? |
aquart |
Mar-21-10 12:04 AM |
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Dennis hasn't "caved" nearly as many times as Obama over the last year. |
bvar22 |
Mar-21-10 10:26 PM |
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have you noticed the pattern too? |
Donnachaidh |
Mar-21-10 07:59 PM |
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Thank you!! Kucinich also made clear in the Goodman interview ... |
defendandprotect |
Mar-21-10 08:09 PM |
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More info -- |
defendandprotect |
Mar-20-10 10:12 PM |
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I totally missed this wrinkle, too. n/t |
EFerrari |
Mar-20-10 10:13 PM |
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So in otherwords, you don't have any real sources that back up |
FrenchieCat |
Mar-20-10 10:15 PM |
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Huffington Post and Kucinich, himself, are not "sources" . . .???? |
defendandprotect |
Mar-20-10 10:24 PM |
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Did you read the thread? The poster is catching up with this bit of things. |
EFerrari |
Mar-20-10 10:34 PM |
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Pelosi said today she won't allow a seperate vote, "not on single payer, not on anything" |
Better Believe It |
Mar-20-10 10:02 PM |
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ERISA would not necessarily block the PA plan, according to some. |
drm604 |
Mar-20-10 10:13 PM |
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As it was put ... "bill provides no safeguards to protect states from lawsuits ... |
defendandprotect |
Mar-20-10 10:28 PM |
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It provides no protection from lawsuits but... |
drm604 |
Mar-20-10 10:53 PM |
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As I said I was totally unaware of this whole issue . . . |
defendandprotect |
Mar-20-10 11:30 PM |
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Bullshit |
Zomby Woof |
Mar-20-10 10:16 PM |
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With respect, Gavin is not known for his legislative acumen. |
EFerrari |
Mar-20-10 10:50 PM |
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Gavin conveniently leaves out |
Luminous Animal |
Mar-21-10 02:26 PM |
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SF was sued under ERISA and "costly legal fight for the city." -- |
defendandprotect |
Mar-21-10 08:19 PM |
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Obama: "I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program." |
Karmadillo |
Mar-20-10 10:17 PM |
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What was it Pelosi said: "He was in favor of a lot of things during the campaign . .. |
defendandprotect |
Mar-20-10 10:30 PM |
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You're right. I looked up the link. I guess the ends justify the lies. |
Karmadillo |
Mar-21-10 10:59 AM |
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Thank you . . . and it just struck me that Pelosi is working directly against CA citizens' interests |
defendandprotect |
Mar-21-10 08:24 PM |
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They don't sleep. They have to keep swimming or they drown. |
Karmadillo |
Mar-21-10 08:54 PM |
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"Nancy Pelosi acting on Obama's instructions has stripped the Kucinich amendment from HR 3200" |
Cali_Democrat |
Mar-20-10 10:33 PM |
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See here . . . "stripped from the bill by Nancy Pelosi behind closed doors"-- |
defendandprotect |
Mar-21-10 09:13 PM |
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see! they told us Kucinich never accomplishes anything! |
G_j |
Mar-20-10 10:35 PM |
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what a load of pig crap! |
Aramchek |
Mar-20-10 10:47 PM |
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LINKS from 2009? WTF.... huh?.... and....unbelievable....14 RECS??? Do You People Even READ??? |
NYC_SKP |
Mar-20-10 11:00 PM |
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This is DU |
tammywammy |
Mar-20-10 11:01 PM |
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Sanders & Wyden put it in the Senate bill: "SEC. 1332. WAIVER FOR STATE INNOVATION" |
quiet.american |
Mar-20-10 11:28 PM |
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Well, in the Goodman interview with Kucinich . .. |
defendandprotect |
Mar-21-10 08:30 PM |
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Why are you posting something from LAST YEAR? |
WeekendWarrior |
Mar-21-10 12:08 AM |
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past pull dated? n/t |
upi402 |
Mar-21-10 12:12 AM |
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Irrelevent. HR3200 is dead. Let's talk about the current bill. nt |
johnaries |
Mar-21-10 12:16 AM |
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Single payer is "irrelevant"? |
Lorien |
Mar-21-10 01:56 AM |
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I think they have the bill they want. |
laughingliberal |
Mar-21-10 08:29 PM |
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We are talking about the "current bill" -- and a safeguard for states that want single payer . . . |
defendandprotect |
Mar-21-10 08:38 PM |
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From what I've been reading the waiver date of 2017 on Sec.1332 is more the problem |
suffragette |
Mar-21-10 01:41 AM |
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It does seem like the 2017 date is the real problem. |
drm604 |
Mar-21-10 09:25 AM |
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The best way would probably be to have clearcut language |
suffragette |
Mar-21-10 11:57 AM |
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I agree wholeheartedly that it would be much better to have language |
drm604 |
Mar-21-10 12:14 PM |
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We're both looking for the silver lining |
suffragette |
Mar-21-10 12:47 PM |
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Maybe The Keystone State can be the keystone for single payer. |
drm604 |
Mar-21-10 01:08 PM |
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Symbolic and appropriate |
suffragette |
Mar-21-10 01:29 PM |
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My Uncle and cousins and their families are in the Spokane area |
drm604 |
Mar-21-10 02:05 PM |
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Spokane is on the other side of the Cascade mountains |
suffragette |
Mar-21-10 02:19 PM |
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I got to live in Vancouver for five weeks for work back in '96. |
drm604 |
Mar-21-10 02:27 PM |
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Lucky you |
suffragette |
Mar-21-10 03:56 PM |
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Guess by 2017, the insurance companies would feel better about competition . . . !!! |
defendandprotect |
Mar-21-10 09:16 PM |
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Even more confusing . .. meanwhile, insurance companies have used ERISA for harassment |
defendandprotect |
Mar-21-10 08:48 PM |
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I hope PNHP as it right and we can push past ERISA |
suffragette |
Mar-21-10 10:36 PM |
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Mar-21-10 01:53 AM |
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WTF?! |
earth mom |
Mar-21-10 04:33 AM |
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Yes |
Trillo |
Mar-21-10 10:36 AM |
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President Obama and Speaker Pelosi made |
ProSense |
Mar-21-10 12:17 PM |
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Reread what you've posted . . . |
defendandprotect |
Mar-21-10 09:00 PM |
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K & R |
SlingBlade |
Mar-21-10 12:44 PM |
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K and WTF. |
NYC_SKP |
Mar-21-10 05:02 PM |
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what, our state wants SIngle Payer? |
tigereye |
Mar-21-10 08:22 PM |
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I think a lot of states would go in that direction, it's what citizens wants . . . |
defendandprotect |
Mar-21-10 09:05 PM |
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wow, thanks for the info! |
tigereye |
Mar-21-10 10:50 PM |
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Is that true? |
Tomorrows Dream |
Mar-21-10 09:26 PM |
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