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Oregone

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Sat Mar-20-10 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #37

42. It was an honest observation

I feel like a lot of people were being used like tools, whether or not they knew better. Its a bitter pill to swallow. People in the streets demanding "healthcare now" aren't going to get it. They are simply a mouthpiece for an industry movement towards mandated & subsidized private for-profit insurance.

I feel sorry for this person. They probably worked their ass off and will have little to show for it. Thats incredibly unfortunate, but if "the fight" is worth it in itself, then all the power to them. Im not that kind of person. Id rather get real results, whether its half as hard or twice that. And the last thing Id want to be is some tool for a movement that reduces me to a statistical political football to pass a political agenda.

Im not denigrating this person one bit. My heart feels for them and everyone else that wanted something of substance.

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-Teabaggers SPIT ON my favorite congressman today. Yes they spit on him!!!!	proud2BlibKansan	Mar-20-10 08:25 PM	#0
- This is literally a godsend. And yes, I would be the spit target.	Gman2	Mar-20-10 08:26 PM	#1
- I think so, too. This country has been in denial about racism, and this clearly	bobbolink	Mar-20-10 08:57 PM	#26
- They dont even know the difference between racism, and discrimination, and what makes one diff from	Gman2	Mar-20-10 09:31 PM	#34
- I don't think too many people with more than 2 synapses actively firing are in denial about racism	MajorChode	Mar-20-10 10:13 PM	#62
- Then your experience is very different from mine. I hear middle-class "progressive" whites	bobbolink	Mar-20-10 10:18 PM	#64
- Are you saying you don't think we have come far in the past 40-50 years?	MajorChode	Mar-20-10 10:30 PM	#66
- We've come far in OUTWARD things, like laws. As far as racism itself, NO.	bobbolink	Mar-21-10 11:37 AM	#76
- I'm not sure how one could progress without the other	MajorChode	Mar-21-10 12:03 PM	#78
- No, laws precede changing of mindsets, which is obviously not as far progressed as	bobbolink	Mar-21-10 08:47 PM	#117
- I know of not one major piece of legislation that didn't follow many years of changed mindsets	MajorChode	Mar-22-10 11:02 AM	#121
- I agree with you bobbolink	CLANG	Mar-21-10 04:38 PM	#97
- I would like to believe that racists will not be replaced, but with home schooling so popular	bobbolink	Mar-21-10 08:49 PM	#118
- Progressive laws were made, but right wing backlash reversed many of the gains by AA and women .	defendandprotect	Mar-21-10 07:31 PM	#111
- Racism has always been an issue...	awoke_in_2003	Mar-21-10 02:42 PM	#91
- Unbelievably, it's still overt as of the last 2 days on the floor of the lower house of congress...	MajorChode	Mar-21-10 08:16 PM	#115
- Yeah, they are	awoke_in_2003	Mar-21-10 08:28 PM	#116
- I'm tired of it being ignored.	skyounkin	Mar-21-10 05:08 PM	#104
- Yep the shit has finally hit the fan	malaise	Mar-20-10 11:08 PM	#68
- These people are beyond vile.	Lilyeye	Mar-20-10 08:29 PM	#2
- Mr. Cleaver is a bigger man than most	Bluzmann57	Mar-20-10 08:30 PM	#3
- He needs to press charges	proud2BlibKansan	Mar-20-10 08:38 PM	#11
- I'm with you	SusanaMontana41	Mar-21-10 06:31 PM	#107
- dupe --	defendandprotect	Mar-21-10 07:36 PM	#112
- I thought so, too --- perhaps he knows better--?????	defendandprotect	Mar-21-10 07:37 PM	#113
- I am an atheist...	awoke_in_2003	Mar-21-10 02:44 PM	#92
- So sorry. This is so awful.	Cleita	Mar-20-10 08:31 PM	#4
- And some of the protesters are clearly Medicare...	CBHagman	Mar-20-10 08:34 PM	#8
- The Medicare set has dominated the teabagger rallies	proud2BlibKansan	Mar-21-10 07:38 AM	#70
- That's assault	ericinne	Mar-20-10 08:32 PM	#5
- it's assault if you aren't a cop too-	Bluerthanblue	Mar-20-10 08:42 PM	#14
- they're racist motherfuckers who do not deserve to live in this nation n/t	RainDog	Mar-20-10 08:33 PM	#6
- What you said, damn right!	madmax	Mar-20-10 08:34 PM	#7
- There is nothing new about the teabaggers arguments.	Grand Taurean	Mar-20-10 08:35 PM	#9
- That's pretty frakking SICK. Cleaver is such a Good Guy! Did you see the stuff about Brownback	patrice	Mar-20-10 08:36 PM	#10
- and here . . .	patrice	Mar-20-10 08:40 PM	#13
- Cleaver has spoken highly of Brownback	proud2BlibKansan	Mar-20-10 08:49 PM	#18
- Oh, I'm sure they try to keep things as polite as they can.	patrice	Mar-20-10 08:55 PM	#24
- And don't forget farmers don't pay sales tax in Kansas	proud2BlibKansan	Mar-20-10 08:56 PM	#25
- The teabaggers just want to go back to the "good ol' days" before the 60's.	Sebastian Doyle	Mar-20-10 08:38 PM	#12
- At least before Obama, when taxes were lower... NOT!	Rhiannon12866	Mar-20-10 08:49 PM	#17
- Pre-13th Amendment and all following, specifically.	Manifestor_of_Light	Mar-20-10 08:50 PM	#19
- Zing!	ljm2002	Mar-21-10 11:24 AM	#75
- Probably just a bad apple	Oregone	Mar-20-10 08:45 PM	#15
- Good thought. Thank you.	patrice	Mar-20-10 08:48 PM	#16
- I spent much of my summer at rallies with them	proud2BlibKansan	Mar-20-10 08:51 PM	#20
- Huh? Were you shooting a funny documentary?	Oregone	Mar-20-10 08:52 PM	#22
- LOL no just working for HCR	proud2BlibKansan	Mar-20-10 08:55 PM	#23
- I dont mean to be a dick	Oregone	Mar-20-10 09:10 PM	#28
- Huh? I'm not following . . .	proud2BlibKansan	Mar-20-10 09:11 PM	#29
- I mean while you were out fighting "the good ole fight"	Oregone	Mar-20-10 09:26 PM	#31
- Jesus man, reel it in a little	comrade snarky	Mar-20-10 09:37 PM	#37
- It was an honest observation	Oregone	Mar-20-10 09:46 PM	#42
- Uh huh... I can hear the tiny violin you play so sadly	comrade snarky	Mar-20-10 09:54 PM	#49
- That work already is denigrated by the leadership that took advantage of it, then took a shit on it	Oregone	Mar-20-10 09:55 PM	#52
- Oh,and i guess you know what's better...	butterfly77	Mar-21-10 04:08 PM	#96
- You are welcome	Oregone	Mar-21-10 07:17 PM	#110
- Thank you	proud2BlibKansan	Mar-20-10 10:07 PM	#60
- Not a problem, that was totally uncalled for	comrade snarky	Mar-20-10 10:14 PM	#63
- No I didn't get any intrinsic reward	proud2BlibKansan	Mar-20-10 09:58 PM	#54
- Sorry. Well at least maybe you will get a low actuarial value private plan	Oregone	Mar-20-10 10:00 PM	#55
- Yes, "invaded" is the word.	CBHagman	Mar-21-10 09:38 AM	#72
- Thank you	proud2BlibKansan	Mar-21-10 10:07 AM	#73
- Nice try. Not buying today.	CLANG	Mar-21-10 04:48 PM	#100
- Not buying a joke?	Oregone	Mar-21-10 07:02 PM	#108
- OK, I'll give you that. Maybe there was an innocent baby in the crowd.	CLANG	Mar-21-10 07:13 PM	#109
- Sad. n/t	teacher gal	Mar-20-10 08:52 PM	#21
- The regressive movement in action.	The Gunslinger	Mar-20-10 09:00 PM	#27
- John Lewis had his skull fractured while marching for civil rights in the '60s.	gauguin57	Mar-20-10 09:12 PM	#30
- me, too. I was outraged.	Iris	Mar-20-10 09:30 PM	#32
- What again? It never stopped.	bobbolink	Mar-20-10 09:35 PM	#35
- yes. you're right.	Iris	Mar-20-10 09:45 PM	#41
- I wish to hell I was wrong.	bobbolink	Mar-20-10 09:53 PM	#47
- So do I bobbolink	proud2BlibKansan	Mar-20-10 10:00 PM	#56
- me, too.	Iris	Mar-21-10 04:47 PM	#99
- I understand the feeling	proud2BlibKansan	Mar-21-10 08:02 AM	#71
- The bastards realize that they're losing	eleny	Mar-20-10 09:31 PM	#33
- "lash out with spit"	bobbolink	Mar-20-10 09:36 PM	#36
- Hi, b!	eleny	Mar-20-10 09:40 PM	#38
- ABsolutely, he was on the Edmund Pettus Bridge, not the Bridge To Nowhere.	bobbolink	Mar-20-10 09:48 PM	#43
- Reptilian and apt, agreed.	EFerrari	Mar-20-10 09:40 PM	#39
- Yes they are losing and they are losers	proud2BlibKansan	Mar-21-10 02:08 AM	#69
- I'd like to spit on a few wall street CEOs and cronies, and their partners in Washington....	Political Heretic	Mar-20-10 09:42 PM	#40
- THEY wouldn't hesitate for a minit to charge you with a crime.	bobbolink	Mar-20-10 09:50 PM	#46
- I'm sure. If you haven't been to jail for conscience, you haven't really done anything.	Political Heretic	Mar-20-10 09:55 PM	#50
- geeeez, I gave you a bit of suport and understanding, and you cut me right down.	bobbolink	Mar-20-10 09:57 PM	#53
- No, no, I am agreeing with you. And saying, yes jail... it would be worth it.	Political Heretic	Mar-20-10 10:00 PM	#57
- Sheeesh yourself. The statement clearly read that unless I and others go to jail, we have done	bobbolink	Mar-20-10 10:03 PM	#58
- For fucks sake I was talking about MYSELF. Jesus.	Political Heretic	Mar-20-10 10:12 PM	#61
- That is disgusting - and this will work against them	karynnj	Mar-20-10 09:48 PM	#44
- I keep waiting for the shots to ring out. Seems just a matter of time.	Maru Kitteh	Mar-20-10 09:49 PM	#45
- No doubt	proud2BlibKansan	Mar-20-10 10:52 PM	#67
- Any way we could send a message of support to Rep Cleaver???	MindandSoul	Mar-20-10 09:53 PM	#48
- I don't have the Capitol Hill numbers at hand right now, but they are easy to find.	bobbolink	Mar-20-10 09:55 PM	#51
- We are organizing a phone rally on Monday	proud2BlibKansan	Mar-20-10 10:03 PM	#59
- Thanks!	MindandSoul	Mar-20-10 10:28 PM	#65
- And please remember us, his constituents, and he want a public option, minimum!	grahamhgreen	Mar-21-10 01:45 PM	#87
- declined to press charges?	shireen	Mar-21-10 10:11 AM	#74
- Hippies allegedly spit on Vietnam Vets. We heard about it for 40 years afterward. But	troubledamerican	Mar-21-10 12:00 PM	#77
- Supposedly that is an urban myth. It never happened.	Cleita	Mar-21-10 12:43 PM	#81
- Of course. But you miss my point entirely.	troubledamerican	Mar-21-10 01:00 PM	#82
- I got your point. Sorry if I offended you.	Cleita	Mar-21-10 01:05 PM	#84
- No, it is true - I was hitchiking home on a leave, wearing my uniform	old mark	Mar-21-10 01:14 PM	#86
- Having drunk a**holes spit at you while driving by don't make it "true" that Hippies	FailureToCommunicate	Mar-21-10 02:03 PM	#88
- Keep your thanks. nt	old mark	Mar-21-10 04:42 PM	#98
- Yes. it happened to my guy too.	pengillian101	Mar-21-10 05:42 PM	#105
- What a disgusting asshole!	Spirochete	Mar-21-10 12:15 PM	#79
- I suspect the teabaggers fervently wish for a return to the good old days of slavery.	kestrel91316	Mar-21-10 12:39 PM	#80
- Oh you know that's right	proud2BlibKansan	Mar-21-10 04:50 PM	#101
- Isn't that considered assault? Arrest the spitter. This is nasty and could spread disease.	Liberty Belle	Mar-21-10 01:02 PM	#83
- I would be considered assault in California.	Cleita	Mar-21-10 01:06 PM	#85
- Found the Congressman's website/email -	northofdenali	Mar-21-10 02:09 PM	#89
- Thank you	proud2BlibKansan	Mar-21-10 03:57 PM	#95
- I wish	Rwalsh	Mar-21-10 02:15 PM	#90
- Rep. Cleaver spoke to our Democracy for America training session in KC for about an hour.	mistertrickster	Mar-21-10 02:57 PM	#93
- Are you coming to DFA training in OP?	proud2BlibKansan	Mar-21-10 03:56 PM	#94
- You mean in April? I've gone twice already, but I'd go again to meet Howard. nt	mistertrickster	Mar-22-10 08:06 PM	#122
- I'm really afraid there will be violence today	Tailormyst	Mar-21-10 04:53 PM	#102
- That is assault-he should have filed charges and made an example of the asshole	TK421	Mar-21-10 04:56 PM	#103
- collect that dna, put it in a data base	SemperEadem	Mar-21-10 05:54 PM	#106
- Really classy people -- !!!	defendandprotect	Mar-21-10 07:45 PM	#114
- They were actually just frothing at the mouth	Blix Krieg	Mar-21-10 08:51 PM	#119
- I know the media has been "busy" covering the HCR Bill, but why	chelsea0011	Mar-22-10 05:02 AM	#120

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