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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 06:25 PM
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13. Yes. I understand all the teeth gnashing, president bashing and disappointment
but I have not seen a good explanation about what we have to gain by not passing this now. I doubt that we will ever get enough momentum to try anything even this imperfect for a long, long time...if ever. I am hopeful that this is the first (even if it's awkward) step in what will be a long process.
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  -How Many of You are Committed to Working for Improvements to the HCR Bill if it Passes? laughingliberal  Mar-19-10 06:11 PM   #0 
  - Can I have the popcorn concession on this one?  havocmom   Mar-19-10 06:15 PM   #1 
  - Sure.  laughingliberal   Mar-19-10 06:18 PM   #5 
  - Maybe someone can explain the logic as well  noise   Mar-19-10 06:15 PM   #2 
  - This bill is just the first step on the road to universal single payer healthcare  kestrel91316   Mar-19-10 06:17 PM   #3 
  - The first step would have been much better  noise   Mar-19-10 06:19 PM   #7 
  - I disagree. Obama is nothing if not pragmatic in the face of nearly overwhelming obstacles.  kestrel91316   Mar-19-10 06:22 PM   #8 
  - sickening to see him in campaign mode now, when he did nothing for a robust public option  amborin   Mar-19-10 07:52 PM   #25 
  - Yes. There is the POV that says he cut the deals with PhRMA, the Hospital lobby, and AHIP  laughingliberal   Mar-20-10 12:40 AM   #35 
  - pragmatic  Donnachaidh   Mar-19-10 08:15 PM   #28 
  - If they had just told Republicans right off if you not with us your against us  Tippy   Mar-19-10 06:35 PM   #21 
  - I meant force in the sense of political pressure  laughingliberal   Mar-19-10 06:23 PM   #9 
  - not to mention, it has a handy hook on which to hang a public option  bain_sidhe   Mar-19-10 06:32 PM   #19 
     - That would be wonderful!  laughingliberal   Mar-20-10 12:36 AM   #34 
  - I was still calling and asking others to call today for about 3 hours  Tippy   Mar-19-10 06:18 PM   #4 
  - Thanks!  laughingliberal   Mar-19-10 06:25 PM   #11 
     - And Thank you for starting this thread....  Tippy   Mar-19-10 06:53 PM   #23 
  - Count me in. knr  Union Yes   Mar-19-10 06:19 PM   #6 
  - Thank You! nt  laughingliberal   Mar-19-10 06:23 PM   #10 
  - Well, that's pretty presumptive  Cirque du So-What   Mar-19-10 06:25 PM   #12 
  - +1  readmoreoften   Mar-19-10 06:27 PM   #15 
  - +1. nt  DevonRex   Mar-19-10 06:28 PM   #16 
  - I'm asking. Cause I've been flamed to hell by those who say we have to support the bill  laughingliberal   Mar-19-10 06:33 PM   #20 
  - Yes. I understand all the teeth gnashing, president bashing and disappointment  likesmountains 52   Mar-19-10 06:25 PM   #13 
  - The bill that's voted on is the bill we'll have  Lorien   Mar-19-10 06:27 PM   #14 
  - I'm wondering if those who have been wanting us to look at this as a first step  laughingliberal   Mar-19-10 08:47 PM   #29 
     - Some will. Others just want a "win" for Team Obama (they really don't seem to  Lorien   Mar-19-10 11:10 PM   #32 
  - What kind of "work" are you talking about? They don't listen to us now. I doubt they'll give a damn  readmoreoften   Mar-19-10 06:29 PM   #17 
  - What kind of committment can we get from those of you who have  DevonRex   Mar-19-10 06:29 PM   #18 
  - The problem is, unless you're a well-connected corporate lobbyist, there isn't any  salguine   Mar-19-10 06:45 PM   #22 
  - re: "So, what do you say?" well...  thotzRthingz   Mar-19-10 07:48 PM   #24 
  - 100% committed...But I knew this bill was just a incremental step to true health care for all.  Ozymanithrax   Mar-19-10 07:59 PM   #26 
  - Sometimes, I feel like I'm 100 years old, on this site.  ChicagoSuz219   Mar-19-10 08:14 PM   #27 
     - I'm totally for the tweaking and then some  laughingliberal   Mar-19-10 08:50 PM   #30 
     - Seems like some are listening like 100 year olds, too  depakid   Mar-19-10 08:55 PM   #31 
     - That's a very accurate assessment  laughingliberal   Mar-20-10 12:32 AM   #33 
     - the kid nails it again  havocmom   Mar-20-10 10:56 AM   #37 
     - Oh, ye of little faith... n/t  ChicagoSuz219   Mar-20-10 08:05 AM   #36 

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