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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 07:39 PM
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2010 will be to the Republicans what 2006 was to the Democrats
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Despite the fact that support for the Iraq war was far more bipartisan than support for HCR, that mere fact didn't stop Dems from using popular discontent with the war to boost their electoral prospacts considerably.

Fact: a campaigning against mandates and excise taxes is a hugely powerful winning issue. We know this because that's what Obama did in 2008--campaigned against Clinton on mandates and against McCain on taxing benefits. We know that the Repubs don't give a flying fuck about getting health care for those who don't have it, but who here is silly enough to believe they won't use the HCR bill against us, and probably effectively?

Say hello to the next governor of Florida, who will very likely fuck over anyone in Florida who doesn't have access to health care.

SHADEGG: I dont understand either bill. Both the House and Senate bills contain mandates that compel, or would compel you and I as individual Americans to buy insurance from Americas private insurance industry. I think Americas private insurance industry is the problem

STARK: So are you for a public option?

SHADDEG: Well, you could better defend a public option than you could defend compelling me to buy a product from the people that have created the problem. Americas health insurance industry has wanted this bill and the individual mandate from the get go. Thats their idea. Their idea is look, our product is so lousy, that lots of people dont buy it. So we need the government to force people to buy our product. And stunningly, thats what the Congress appears to be going along with. Why would they do that?

STARK: Congressman, youre making the progressive argument here.

SHADDEG: Im with the progressives on this one! The notion I mean, I completely agree with my progressive friends here. The notion of forcing Americans to buy a product they dont want to buy from companies that arent doing it right right now is goofy..."

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  -2010 will be to the Republicans what 2006 was to the Democrats eridani  Mar-18-10 07:39 PM   #0 
  - How much leeway do you think we are allowed? Or Obama?  Gman2   Mar-18-10 07:46 PM   #1 
  - Yeah, Obama has no responsibility at all. Just a puppet.  aquart   Mar-18-10 07:53 PM   #2 
  - "The buck stops here" is soooo yesterday.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-18-10 07:55 PM   #4 
  - If Joe and Jane voter don't notice any progress, they will vote against us  eridani   Mar-18-10 08:34 PM   #11 
     - And as long as republicans own the media there won't be any  Bitwit1234   Mar-18-10 09:32 PM   #12 
        - If something real happened in their own lives, they'd ignore the media  eridani   Mar-19-10 01:41 AM   #13 
  - Not if we pass healthcare reform  gravity   Mar-18-10 07:55 PM   #3 
  - Passing HCR is handing the pubbies their biggest weapon against us  eridani   Mar-18-10 08:28 PM   #8 
  - SHADDEG: Im with the progressives on this one!  FrenchieCat   Mar-18-10 07:56 PM   #5 
  - Obama ran against mandates and won the primary  eridani   Mar-18-10 08:29 PM   #9 
     - Shhh. We're supposed to forget that  leftstreet   Mar-20-10 12:58 AM   #15 
  - Bullshit  Champion Jack   Mar-18-10 08:07 PM   #6 
  - i don't see it.  spanone   Mar-18-10 08:12 PM   #7 
  - You missed Obama's wins in 2008?  eridani   Mar-18-10 08:30 PM   #10 
  - Just as I thought. No logical responses at all  eridani   Mar-20-10 12:56 AM   #14 
     - Shit Sandwiches Don't Eat Themselves Ya Know (eom)  wellst0nev0ter   Mar-20-10 01:08 AM   #16 

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