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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #30
45. The NYT was an embarrassingly badly sourced article.
Good enough for you obviously, but I have always found Ezra Klein to be responsible in his reporting and I believe what he said about this.

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  - And don't ya just love this bullshit about there are not enough votes for a Public Option?  LakeSamish706   Mar-16-10 09:52 PM   #1 
  - And it's a triple sell-out  lwcon   Mar-16-10 10:04 PM   #5 
  - I was a big dummy.  hulka38   Mar-16-10 09:53 PM   #2 
  - "First, progressives got suckered..."  ProSense   Mar-16-10 09:58 PM   #3 
  - No one that hasn't been insulted already  lwcon   Mar-16-10 10:07 PM   #6 
     - Yeah, fools. n/t  ProSense   Mar-16-10 10:09 PM   #8 
        - Is this the part where you stop all sense of pretense and laugh at the face of liberals  liberation   Mar-17-10 04:45 PM   #42 
        - Oh look,  ProSense   Mar-17-10 11:30 PM   #75 
        - Always ready to throw gasolene on the fire. Why do you have such hatred for  rhett o rick   Mar-17-10 05:00 PM   #47 
  - I'm fooled no more by the administration or party.  mmonk   Mar-16-10 09:58 PM   #4 
  - I hear more and more people saying that.  dixiegrrrrl   Mar-16-10 10:08 PM   #7 
  - Why do you think the SCOTUS had to rule that way on corporate $$$?  Greyhound   Mar-17-10 03:44 PM   #37 
  - They need to be reminded of Lincoln's quote:  Individualist   Mar-16-10 10:10 PM   #9 
  - Probably should be updated  lwcon   Mar-16-10 10:12 PM   #10 
     - As per the sciences of behavioral and statistical psychology  tom_paine   Mar-16-10 11:13 PM   #22 
        - I'm still looking for the enlightment at either end of the tunnel  lwcon   Mar-16-10 11:25 PM   #23 
  - I agree with no money and no straight ticket voting  dflprincess   Mar-17-10 04:23 PM   #40 
  - so we've got a president that cuts deals behind our backs  Enrique   Mar-16-10 10:17 PM   #11 
  - Sad but true  lwcon   Mar-16-10 10:21 PM   #12 
  - Right ... promised there would not be any government run health care plan . ..  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 10:22 PM   #13 
  - I just think he came of age during Reaganomics and fundamentally believes it  lwcon   Mar-16-10 10:28 PM   #16 
     - Then he is either very intellectually dishonest , or too chickenshit to register Republican  liberation   Mar-17-10 04:51 PM   #43 
     - If Obama and Rahm are of one mind . . . we're in a lot of trouble . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-17-10 07:46 PM   #59 
     - Do you think that excuses everything that he does?  gleaner   Mar-17-10 11:26 PM   #74 
  - And yet there are still large numbers of "true believers" against all verifiable data, they  ShortnFiery   Mar-16-10 10:25 PM   #14 
  - "There's one born every minute."  Forkboy   Mar-16-10 10:26 PM   #15 
  - And today we have threads  lwcon   Mar-17-10 10:29 AM   #36 
     - Sometimes reading DU feels like a bad Orwellian dream...  liberation   Mar-17-10 04:57 PM   #46 
        - Well, a lot of that is what I consider  defendandprotect   Mar-17-10 07:48 PM   #60 
  - Alas...  lwcon   Mar-16-10 10:37 PM   #17 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-16-10 11:38 PM   #25 
     - IMHO, the "DLC" thing is a distraction  lwcon   Mar-17-10 07:20 AM   #33 
        - The politicians yes, but I think that most party members are still traditional Dems.  Lorien   Mar-17-10 09:23 PM   #63 
           - DK, Grayson, and Weiner all played footsie with the...  lwcon   Mar-17-10 09:55 PM   #68 
  - Holy cow! I recced this and the count went up by 3.  Jim Sagle   Mar-16-10 10:40 PM   #18 
  - They can use a voter like you in Chicago! n/t  lwcon   Mar-16-10 10:53 PM   #20 
  - I am soooooo fuckin' disgusted with this president and the so-called Dems.  kath   Mar-16-10 10:46 PM   #19 
  - It's amazing what can be accomplished under the banner of  lwcon   Mar-16-10 11:07 PM   #21 
     - How much "lesser" are they at this point? nt  Lorien   Mar-16-10 11:39 PM   #26 
        - Indeed  lwcon   Mar-17-10 05:37 AM   #29 
  - And now he's promising not to back Progressives who vote against his wealthcare bill  Lorien   Mar-16-10 11:37 PM   #24 
  - More accurately he said no help to ANYONE that votes no.  Lord Helmet   Mar-17-10 12:15 AM   #28 
     - His help did wonders for Martha Coakley!  lwcon   Mar-17-10 06:14 AM   #31 
        - On another thread...  Javaman   Mar-17-10 04:04 PM   #38 
           - That's not why she lost. She ran a godawful campaign.  Lord Helmet   Mar-17-10 04:51 PM   #44 
              - How is the strategy of shitting on the base working out for the Dems?  lwcon   Mar-17-10 09:45 PM   #65 
                 - That's the attitude of a self-perpetuating defeatist.  Lord Helmet   Mar-17-10 10:06 PM   #69 
                    - Try "realist"  lwcon   Mar-17-10 10:49 PM   #71 
                       - Here's what I see.  Lord Helmet   Mar-17-10 11:04 PM   #72 
                          - It would be a war...  lwcon   Mar-17-10 11:08 PM   #73 
  - That's not exactly true. Ezra Klein talked about this last week.  Lord Helmet   Mar-17-10 12:09 AM   #27 
  - Do you have additional beliefs that wash away...  lwcon   Mar-17-10 05:51 AM   #30 
     - And, of course, this line of reasoning magically evaporated, as well  lwcon   Mar-17-10 07:27 AM   #34 
     - The NYT was an embarrassingly badly sourced article.  Lord Helmet   Mar-17-10 04:53 PM   #45 
        - In other words, you only accept hearsay as long as it fits your narrative...  liberation   Mar-17-10 05:07 PM   #50 
           - I'm not the one going off on the subject of crappy reporting. nt  Lord Helmet   Mar-17-10 09:22 PM   #62 
              - Funny, I could swear the whole premise of your post was how the NYT was a bad journalistic source  liberation   Mar-17-10 09:48 PM   #66 
                 - I refer you to  Lord Helmet   Mar-17-10 10:24 PM   #70 
  - K & R nt  LWolf   Mar-17-10 07:10 AM   #32 
  - thx! n/t  lwcon   Mar-17-10 10:01 AM   #35 
  - Democrats win Democracy loses. Fuck all Parties not for the People.  pundaint   Mar-17-10 04:04 PM   #39 
  - If you read the actual article---novel idea for some, I understand---the language you highlight  Atticus   Mar-17-10 04:44 PM   #41 
  - So where does the buck stop when we dont get single payer and we dont get a PO? nm  rhett o rick   Mar-17-10 05:03 PM   #48 
     - And, your post has WHAT to do with mine? nt  Atticus   Mar-17-10 05:24 PM   #51 
        - You apparently have a problem with the OP. Just wondering how you stood on the issue, nm  rhett o rick   Mar-17-10 05:30 PM   #52 
           - My problem with the OP is simply what I stated: it is a selective quote of something said by  Atticus   Mar-17-10 07:14 PM   #55 
              - I understand. Sorry, I got one hell of a chip on my shoulder. nm  rhett o rick   Mar-17-10 07:19 PM   #56 
                 - Thanks. No problem. These are aggravating times. nt  Atticus   Mar-17-10 07:28 PM   #57 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-17-10 05:05 PM   #49 
  - It's Over Johnny  merkins   Mar-17-10 06:31 PM   #53 
  - I like your idea of "Progressive Underground". Anyone can call themselves  rhett o rick   Mar-17-10 07:38 PM   #58 
  - Progressive Underground -- count me in  troubledamerican   Mar-17-10 08:54 PM   #61 
  - If this bill is so great, why don't House Dems want to openly vote for it?  SandWalker1984   Mar-17-10 06:54 PM   #54 
  - Isn't that just perfect?  lwcon   Mar-17-10 09:43 PM   #64 
  - I think duplicity is the word you were searching for. kr nt  ooglymoogly   Mar-17-10 09:49 PM   #67 

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