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Green_Lantern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:54 AM
Response to Reply #197
218. what in the heck brought Catholics into this?
How would Medicare for all be passed in the Senate without 60 votes?
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  -Kucinich & Moore are wrong: Listen to Natoma Canfield Gman  Mar-16-10 10:53 AM   #0 
  - Recommended in protest of political posturing at the expense of people in need  Richardo   Mar-16-10 10:55 AM   #1 
  - In 90 days Ms.Canfield can get coverage if this bill passes, not four years  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 10:56 AM   #2 
  - Can you provide a link to that? /nt  still_one   Mar-16-10 11:03 AM   #10 
  - Sure  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 11:07 AM   # 
     - Thanks. I will tell you what upsets me, why haven't the Democratic voices be yelling this  still_one   Mar-16-10 11:13 AM   #29 
     - Because it only removes that obstacle . . . NOT THE COSTS of the insurance!!!  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:21 AM   #38 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-16-10 11:27 AM   #48 
        - How so? I would like to know how this womans insurance premiums will change?  Javaman   Mar-16-10 11:44 AM   #73 
        - Subsidies are provided and medicaid is expanded to higher income brackets.  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 11:52 AM   #87 
        - You're saying she won't have to pay for health care? No insurance costs?  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:55 AM   #89 
           - I'm saying she said she'll qualify for substantial  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 12:00 PM   #98 
              - So the INCOME testing makes her a GOP "welfare queen" . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 12:03 PM   #105 
                 - You've lost all credibility on this issue. I'm afraid I'm going to have to ignore  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 12:05 PM   #108 
                 - You're saying there is no INCOME TESTING . . . ???  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 12:11 PM   #126 
                 - I imagine many will label those recieving subsities as welfare  robinblue   Mar-16-10 02:48 PM   #178 
                    - Right . . . and it's the same thing the GOP has tried to do with Social security . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 05:31 PM   #186 
     - I agree.  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 11:28 AM   #51 
     - This says she WILL NOT be covered!!!!!  grahamhgreen   Mar-16-10 01:16 PM   #160 
     - ,,,abd that's exactly what Michael Moore was pointing out . . . this sucks!!  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 05:32 PM   #187 
     - So, she will wait 3 months and hope that # 3 covers here. But  robinblue   Mar-16-10 02:46 PM   #177 
  - She dropped her coverage because she could not afford it  Bluenorthwest   Mar-16-10 11:03 AM   #11 
  - Because she'll be able to qualify for subsidies or even medicaid  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 11:06 AM   #13 
  - ...and that's a TIERED system . . . a "welfare system" . . . a GOP gimmick . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:23 AM   #43 
     - You can tantrum all you like, but stomping your feet here will not save lives.  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 11:29 AM   #52 
     - We need EVERYONE to receive EQUAL care . . . not a class based system . ..  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:40 AM   #65 
        - Nothing else will save our country  Tailormyst   Mar-16-10 11:45 AM   #74 
        - Exactly . . . health care is a human right . . . not "for profit" of insurance companies ...  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 12:05 PM   #109 
        - EVERYONE WILL... This is NOT a class based system. We're moving AWAY FROM THAT in this bill.  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 11:56 AM   #92 
           - It IS a class based system. What the hell do you think the bronze, silver  Raineyb   Mar-16-10 12:01 PM   #102 
           - Universal health care/human right --- everyone American treated equally . . !!!  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 12:05 PM   #111 
           - The same thing they do for BLUE CROSS CUSTOMERS WHO HAVE ACCESS to those plans NOW.  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 12:08 PM   #119 
              - You mean the clients who are being robbed by insurance companies . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 12:13 PM   #127 
              - If you can't afford it there IS NOT CHOICE And we're supposed to be FIXING the system  Raineyb   Mar-16-10 12:53 PM   #150 
                 - I can't afford my premiums  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 03:21 PM   #183 
                    - However, you are PAYING for them . . . this woman can't do the same ...  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 07:20 PM   #188 
                       - Somebody in this conversation is daft. And it damn sure ain't me.  Raineyb   Mar-16-10 10:21 PM   #217 
           - This bill is a gift from Obama/Rahma to the insurance companies ...a betrayal of public ...  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 12:07 PM   #114 
     - And where are the votes for that?  Starbucks Anarchist   Mar-16-10 07:39 PM   #192 
  - I do believe there will be subsidies for people like her.  Winterblues   Mar-16-10 11:07 AM   #16 
  - ...and that is also a "subsidy" for insurance companies . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:24 AM   #44 
  - Insurance companies, who have employees who need jobs.  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 11:31 AM   #56 
     - But they can only work in the "for profit" health care industry?  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:42 AM   #68 
     - This bill creates 4 million  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 12:01 PM   #101 
        - So insurance company profits aren't limited to 15% plus bonuses???  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 12:08 PM   #118 
           - They claim to pay 80-85 cents of every dollar on health care currently  GinaMaria   Mar-16-10 02:31 PM   #174 
              - Those who work in the industry say this is greatly exaggerated . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 07:22 PM   #189 
     - They can do what the rest of us are doing. Try to look for a new job. It is NOT  Raineyb   Mar-16-10 11:58 AM   #96 
        - The bill creates 4 million jobs  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 12:03 PM   #106 
           - Health insurance companies ARE the problem with our health care system.  Raineyb   Mar-16-10 12:06 PM   #112 
           - I ask again why Dennis Kucinich pays his monthly premium  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 12:10 PM   #120 
           - Let's ask why Obama let's us pay for his care and then screws the public ???  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 12:10 PM   #124 
           - But you can fix it with regulation and penalties.  tridim   Mar-16-10 12:10 PM   #123 
              - You mean the way they've fixed the trade agreements . . . and capitalism ...  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 12:14 PM   #129 
              - Regulating an industry that has never been regulated is not "Unregulated capitalism"  tridim   Mar-16-10 12:54 PM   #151 
                 - Unregulated capitalism includes being under-regulated . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 07:31 PM   #190 
              - Those here who embrace sloganeering vs. information  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 12:40 PM   #141 
              - From what you've been saying, maybe you'd better go back and  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 07:51 PM   #196 
              - You mean the regulation with the loopholes you can stuff 40 million into?  Raineyb   Mar-16-10 12:57 PM   #153 
           - Right . .. most of them dealing with insurance company paperwork . . !!!  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 12:10 PM   #122 
  - The subsidies are for premiums and will go right into the pockets of the insurance companies  dflprincess   Mar-16-10 12:31 PM   #137 
  - They never mention that. Then they'll pull out the old Medicaid card.  Raineyb   Mar-16-10 11:09 AM   #20 
     - Right -- this is a tiered system based on INCOME... we need EQUAL treatment for every citizen!!  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:25 AM   #46 
        - No it's NOT. It's a tiered SUBSIDY, based on income.  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 11:32 AM   #57 
           - Why are we going to subsidize 30% profits for insurance companies . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:43 AM   #70 
              - You are far too misinformed to continue speaking on this subject. The new regulations  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 11:49 AM   #81 
                 - Medicare overhead is 3% . . . why are we paying insurance companies 15% ...PLUS BONUSES????  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:56 AM   #90 
                 - Why should we subsidize ANY of their profits?  Raineyb   Mar-16-10 11:56 AM   #91 
                    - Because they'll be providing a service. And, the fact that tax payers are subsidizing  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 12:08 PM   #116 
                       - Insurance business is based on NOT providing health care . . . where have you been???  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 12:17 PM   #132 
                       - denial = profit  G_j   Mar-16-10 08:16 PM   #205 
                       - They DON'T provide a service unless you think that keeping you away from medical care is a service.  Raineyb   Mar-16-10 12:59 PM   #154 
  - In 90 days she can be just as unable to afford the cost of her care as she ever was.  Political Heretic   Mar-16-10 07:42 PM   #194 
  - People need to be put before ideology  NJmaverick   Mar-16-10 10:56 AM   #3 
  - People need to be put before CORPORATE PROFITS.  Sebastian Doyle   Mar-16-10 11:52 AM   #86 
  - and ideology  NJmaverick   Mar-16-10 12:45 PM   #144 
     - So it's only "ideology" when Democrats act like DEMOCRATS  Sebastian Doyle   Mar-16-10 12:50 PM   #148 
        - Nope ideology should guide goals while pragmatism should guide how to achieve those goals  NJmaverick   Mar-16-10 12:56 PM   #152 
           - The best way to go is MEDICARE FOR ALL, EVERYONE IN, NO ONE OUT . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 07:40 PM   #193 
  - If that principle had really been applied in this case, then we would have at least HEARD...  freddie mertz   Mar-16-10 12:34 PM   #139 
  - I don't buy into the idea that single payer is unknown to law makers  NJmaverick   Mar-16-10 12:46 PM   #145 
     - Not about the pols. If the strengths of the S-P system had been aired in public...  freddie mertz   Mar-16-10 01:13 PM   #157 
        - How many people do you think watch congressional testimony?  NJmaverick   Mar-16-10 02:12 PM   #171 
           - So there should be no hearings on anything?  freddie mertz   Mar-16-10 02:38 PM   #175 
           - Something as dramatically different as single payer needs to be enacted at a grass roots movement  NJmaverick   Mar-16-10 02:45 PM   #176 
              - Excuses.  freddie mertz   Mar-16-10 02:59 PM   #182 
              - You must have missed the polls. . .the public understands it - gets it . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 08:45 PM   #213 
           - The public wants single payer... government run health system . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 07:44 PM   #195 
  - This Bill is ideological.  mmonk   Mar-16-10 07:32 PM   #191 
  - The caveat being: any fixes are highly improbable  maxsolomon   Mar-16-10 10:57 AM   #4 
  - Mission Accomplished  Echo In Light   Mar-16-10 10:59 AM   #6 
  - if you mean mission accomplished by the insurance lobby  maxsolomon   Mar-16-10 02:04 PM   #168 
     - Yes  Echo In Light   Mar-16-10 04:41 PM   #184 
  - So a system where we set up some citizens to be "welfare" recipients is better?  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:28 AM   #50 
  - it's better than a system that does nothing...  Green_Lantern   Mar-16-10 01:31 PM   #165 
     - Cementing corporations into health care is criminal . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 07:55 PM   #197 
        - what in the heck brought Catholics into this?  Green_Lantern   Mar-17-10 11:54 AM   #218 
           - Did you miss the Stupak deal . . . US Catholic Bishops private mtg with Pelosi?  defendandprotect   Mar-17-10 07:42 PM   #220 
              - are there 51 votes in the Senate to pass Medicare for all?  Green_Lantern   Mar-18-10 10:37 AM   #221 
                 - Presume there would be . . . if the public heard those words . . .MEDICARE FOR ALL...  defendandprotect   Mar-19-10 12:02 AM   #222 
  - We "fix" medicaid/medicare all the time. It's an organic process.  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 12:16 PM   #131 
     - You mean they CUT Medicare benefits/services/payments all the time ...  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 08:01 PM   #199 
  - I will guarantee that if this bill passes w/o a public option these stories  Vinnie From Indy   Mar-16-10 10:57 AM   #5 
  - +1  joeybee12   Mar-16-10 11:02 AM   #8 
  - and I doubt if their stories will be embraced  G_j   Mar-16-10 11:05 AM   #12 
  - The solution was Medicare or single payer for all, instead we will be going into unknown  still_one   Mar-16-10 11:06 AM   #14 
  - Sorry, but I'm going to trust Krugman and Dr. Howard Dean over you.  Dawgs   Mar-16-10 11:10 AM   #24 
  - ... will be taking your guarantee "over the next decade"  HughMoran   Mar-16-10 11:11 AM   #27 
  - Yup, even before November  zipplewrath   Mar-16-10 11:29 AM   #53 
  - It's also a class based system . . . based on INCOME testing... no equal treatment of all!!  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:30 AM   #55 
  - Probably, but the path to any real reform, aka single payer,  NorthCarolina   Mar-16-10 11:44 AM   #71 
  - Ideology is not medicine. Ideology never cured anyone's Leukemia  Gman   Mar-16-10 11:00 AM   #7 
  - and Congress could have given us Single payer or Medicare for all, but they didn't either  still_one   Mar-16-10 11:08 AM   #18 
     - Because our government can not just shut down an established, legal industry..  tridim   Mar-16-10 11:21 AM   #39 
     - Single payer will not "shut down" private insurance..  Fumesucker   Mar-16-10 11:26 AM   #47 
     - DK said we should shut down the insurance companies and implement single payer.  tridim   Mar-16-10 11:32 AM   #58 
        - "Shut them down" within the government system . . .why corporate Health Care?  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:34 AM   #62 
        - Exactly. That is the plan.  tridim   Mar-16-10 11:41 AM   #67 
           - The last "secret plan" a president had was Nixon's . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:57 AM   #94 
              - If you read the bill you'll know it's not a secret.  tridim   Mar-16-10 12:08 PM   #117 
                 - So Obama has pledged some where to include a public option...???  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 08:13 PM   #204 
        - I can think of a few positions Obama should clarify too..  Fumesucker   Mar-16-10 11:47 AM   #77 
           - The first should be: HEALTH CARE as a HUMAN RIGHT ...  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:59 AM   #97 
     - Why can't they? Other countries have done just that.  NorthCarolina   Mar-16-10 11:45 AM   #75 
        - Because it's illegal.  tridim   Mar-16-10 11:51 AM   #84 
           - That's it? Thats the sole reason we can't do away with for-profit insurance?  NorthCarolina   Mar-16-10 11:57 AM   #93 
           - Do you think our government should have the power to shut down the entire auto industry?  tridim   Mar-16-10 12:05 PM   #110 
              - In a civilized society I can see health care as a basic human right. Owning a car? Not so much.  NorthCarolina   Mar-16-10 12:10 PM   #121 
              - Okay, same question with food replacing cars.  tridim   Mar-16-10 12:11 PM   #125 
                 - So, I can only assume that you would also be in favor of  NorthCarolina   Mar-16-10 12:14 PM   #130 
                 - Police and fire depts were socialized over a century ago.  tridim   Mar-16-10 12:20 PM   #134 
                 - Read the United Nations Proclamation of Human Rights: Food, Shelter,Clothing, HEALTH CARE--!!!  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 08:08 PM   #201 
              - "Only choice" . .. where would that be happening? If we had government health care ...  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 08:06 PM   #200 
           - Nonsense . .. we don't owe insurance companies a living... nor profits ...  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 12:01 PM   #100 
              - That's all true, but the government still can't shut down legal, established industries.  tridim   Mar-16-10 12:06 PM   #113 
                 - When you open libraries, you are not shutting down book stores!!!  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 12:19 PM   #133 
                 - Are you aware of the "exchange" in the bill?  tridim   Mar-16-10 12:22 PM   #135 
                    - Why don't you tell us all what you think it's about .. and what it says ...  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 08:09 PM   #202 
                 - Again, you're confused -- the fact that any nation has a government run health care  defendandprotect   Mar-17-10 07:38 PM   #219 
     - Neither has money ever cured cancer . . . it's a bottomless pit of profit over progress . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:32 AM   #59 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-16-10 11:02 AM   #9 
  - and  G_j   Mar-16-10 11:07 AM   #15 
  - where do you get your health insurance?  NightWatcher   Mar-16-10 11:07 AM   #17 
  - I worked for it  Gman   Mar-16-10 11:09 AM   #21 
     - I mean is it 100% provided and paid for by someone else?  NightWatcher   Mar-16-10 11:11 AM   #26 
     - What sort of work do you do?  Bluenorthwest   Mar-16-10 11:13 AM   #28 
        - I am retired  Gman   Mar-16-10 11:18 AM   #33 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-16-10 11:22 AM   #40 
           - Luck doesn't have a damn thing to do with it. What? You think people like me won the lottery?  Gman   Mar-16-10 11:33 AM   #60 
              - you are FORTUNATE TO HAVE INSURANCE  NightWatcher   Mar-16-10 11:49 AM   #83 
                 - Again... I walked a picket line, no income, out of work for my benefits  Gman   Mar-16-10 12:13 PM   #128 
           - You brag about your union benefits while supporting a bill that screws your brothers.  Edweird   Mar-16-10 07:59 PM   #198 
              - How do you figure the bill screws his union brothers?  NNN0LHI   Mar-16-10 08:45 PM   #214 
                 - The 'cadillac tax' places downward pressure on union health care benefits.  Edweird   Mar-16-10 09:00 PM   #215 
  - I guess I'm a "spoiled brat"  Cronus Protagonist   Mar-16-10 11:09 AM   #19 
  - That's the new up on "you want a PINK Pony" . . . I think??? They're so inventive!!!  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:46 AM   #76 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-16-10 11:10 AM   #22 
  - No one mandates contributions to the profit of others.  G_j   Mar-16-10 11:15 AM   #30 
  - I agree about the non-profit aspect  Gman   Mar-16-10 11:15 AM   #31 
  - And, we are really sick of those who cover their ears and refuse to hear truth  jonathon   Mar-16-10 11:16 AM   #32 
  - Stop whining  Gman   Mar-16-10 11:19 AM   #35 
     - In other words, you got yours fuck everyone else.  Raineyb   Mar-16-10 11:22 AM   #41 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-16-10 11:18 AM   #34 
  - Get over yourself  Echo In Light   Mar-16-10 11:20 AM   #37 
  - My parents have been dead for forty years..  Fumesucker   Mar-16-10 11:28 AM   #49 
  - Let's do it the way every other country has done it -- UNIVERSAL CARE . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:37 AM   #64 
     - So where are the votes for universal health care?  suzie   Mar-16-10 12:00 PM   #99 
        - It hasn't even been put out. The people who were trying to bring it to the  Raineyb   Mar-16-10 12:03 PM   #104 
           - In fact, polls show that the public want a government run health care plan by large majority...  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 08:12 PM   #203 
  - I have no use for Kucinichi and Moore anymore if they are willing to throw people who need immediate  felinetta   Mar-16-10 11:10 AM   #23 
  - The only thing "immediate" is paying for it -- the care doesn't begin for 3-4 years!!!  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:48 AM   #78 
  - I'd say it's a safe bet that you never cared much for them to begin with.  NorthCarolina   Mar-16-10 12:04 PM   #107 
  - Everything needs a start? This isn't a start, it is ENSLAVEMENT to CIGNA & Blue Cross Blue Shield  jonathon   Mar-16-10 11:10 AM   #25 
  - So you think these companies are happy they're going to be regulated..  tridim   Mar-16-10 11:23 AM   #42 
  - California has already given up on regulating Anthem Blue Cross..  Fumesucker   Mar-16-10 11:30 AM   #54 
  - That's one of the many reasons why the bill should pass.  tridim   Mar-16-10 11:37 AM   #63 
     - Right..  Fumesucker   Mar-16-10 11:41 AM   #66 
     - You have no idea what this bill is.  tridim   Mar-16-10 11:42 AM   #69 
        - I said it was going to put huge money in the state coffers..  Fumesucker   Mar-16-10 11:44 AM   #72 
     - It's corporate power which has raped our states . . .!!!  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:53 AM   #88 
        - No, I'm not saying "more corporate power"  tridim   Mar-16-10 11:57 AM   #95 
           - Obama/Rahma are saying "more corporate power" in this bill . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 12:02 PM   #103 
              - Nope.  tridim   Mar-16-10 12:07 PM   #115 
                 - Insurance companies are still in control of health care . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 08:17 PM   #206 
                 - dupe --  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 08:18 PM   #207 
  - The way to regulate them is with COMPETION . . . from government ...  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:52 AM   #85 
  - +1000% . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:48 AM   #79 
  - This health care bill is a coup for corporatism . . . a gift from Obama/Rahma . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:49 AM   #80 
  - +1  leftstreet   Mar-16-10 12:42 PM   #142 
  - It's so obvious, why don't they see this bait-and-switch???  grahamhgreen   Mar-16-10 01:07 PM   #156 
     - They're the pro-corporate DLC . . . corporate wing of the Democratic Party!!  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 08:20 PM   #208 
  - How is it that US can't do what every other nation has done? UNIVERSAL health care???  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 11:19 AM   #36 
  - Evil Empire, that's why  Echo In Light   Mar-16-10 11:25 AM   #45 
  - In Canada, we have no income testing and no high risk pool.  Amonester   Mar-16-10 01:29 PM   #164 
  - Thank you -- that's very valuable to know . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 08:22 PM   #209 
  - "Cementing corporations into health care is a bad idea NOW -- " I agree, and  robinblue   Mar-16-10 02:56 PM   #180 
     - Yeah . . . capitalism is uniquely corrupt/criminal idea which has been  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 08:24 PM   #210 
  - I'm cold  branders seine   Mar-16-10 11:34 AM   #61 
  - I'm sure Kucinich and Moore will smile  Gman   Mar-16-10 11:49 AM   #82 
  - I wish this woman well, but despise the way her struggle is being exploited...  freddie mertz   Mar-16-10 12:27 PM   #136 
  - Natoma will have a pre-existing condition and won't have an opportunity  Vinca   Mar-16-10 12:34 PM   #138 
  - I saw that too. Made me sick with rage.  freddie mertz   Mar-16-10 12:36 PM   #140 
  - Her tragedy isn't being exploited. She wrote him to demonstrate how people like herself  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 12:43 PM   #143 
  - I saw the speech. She is being exploited.  freddie mertz   Mar-16-10 12:46 PM   #146 
     - So says yourself and Faux news.  mzmolly   Mar-16-10 12:47 PM   #147 
        - I never watch Fox News.  freddie mertz   Mar-16-10 01:16 PM   #158 
  - In other words you think she's too ignorant to know what's good for her  Hippo_Tron   Mar-16-10 02:21 PM   #173 
  - Isn't that what the people cheering this bill been telling those of us who say  Raineyb   Mar-16-10 02:51 PM   #179 
  - I very much -- and sadly -- agree with you . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 08:25 PM   #211 
  - MM was also wrong about the facts...........nt  Change Happens   Mar-16-10 12:53 PM   #149 
  - No he wasn't . .  defendandprotect   Mar-16-10 08:26 PM   #212 
  - THIS BILL WILL NOT HELP NATOMA CANFIELD - THAT IS THE ISSUE!!! nt  grahamhgreen   Mar-16-10 01:06 PM   #155 
  - Stop Making Sense!  freddie mertz   Mar-16-10 01:16 PM   #159 
  - This says she WILL NOT be covered!!!!!  grahamhgreen   Mar-16-10 01:17 PM   #161 
  - The Big Lie. This is the issue they spend all their time dancing around and trying  Greyhound   Mar-16-10 01:27 PM   #162 
  - LOL! At one time this post had at least +10 recs  Gman   Mar-16-10 01:29 PM   #163 
  - Or it could have something to do with your message?  Raineyb   Mar-16-10 01:31 PM   #166 
  - LOL!  Gman   Mar-16-10 01:37 PM   #167 
     - You're right. YOU don't like hearing the truth. That's why you call those who tell it to you  Raineyb   Mar-16-10 02:14 PM   #172 
  - well  G_j   Mar-16-10 02:11 PM   #170 
     - LOL! It don't matter!  Gman   Mar-16-10 05:10 PM   #185 
  - "Kucinich & Moore are wrong"? They're SPOT ON! KILL IT, or give us a no-restrictions public option!  thotzRthingz   Mar-16-10 02:08 PM   #169 
  - You're wrong; they're right.  Individualist   Mar-16-10 02:57 PM   #181 
  - "She isn't from Kucinich's district. She is from Medina - the 16th  slipslidingaway   Mar-16-10 10:13 PM   #216 
  - A lot of people share the delusion that the bill is going to do something for them.  eridani   Mar-19-10 07:00 AM   #223 
 

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