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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:27 AM
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2. Except data showing 250 alternations between hitting the gas and the brakes
250 "events" is the maximum that the EDR records. In all likelyhood, it was more that 250...

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  -Will Toyota ride the 'San Diego Prius' back to glory? PBS Poll-435  Mar-16-10 10:24 AM   #0 
  - they have no proof the incident did not happen. none whatsoever.  spanone   Mar-16-10 10:25 AM   #1 
  - Except data showing 250 alternations between hitting the gas and the brakes  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 10:27 AM   #2 
  - Which is exactly what I'd do to get the brakes hot and worn in a car like the Prius..  Fumesucker   Mar-16-10 10:36 AM   #10 
  - Yep...  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 10:37 AM   #11 
  - which proves he tried to stop the car. nothing more.  spanone   Mar-16-10 10:42 AM   #13 
     - By stepping on the accelerator 125+ times?  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 10:43 AM   #14 
        - Toyota has admitted to a sudden acceleration problem that has not been recorded by its computers  Romulox   Mar-16-10 10:46 AM   #18 
        - i've been in his situation due to a mechanics fault.  spanone   Mar-16-10 10:48 AM   #21 
           - Even the accelerator? Why not just put the transmission in neutral and coast to a nice safe stop?  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 10:52 AM   #28 
              - when you are going one hundred and five out of control your thinking isn't quite as sharp  spanone   Mar-16-10 10:54 AM   #31 
                 - In the span of 20 minutes, you probably could get your shit together and figure out how to stop  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 10:58 AM   #35 
                    - well. you call it DRAMA i called it life and death  spanone   Mar-16-10 10:59 AM   #36 
                       - In the time that it takes to watch a DVR'd sitcom without commercials  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 11:01 AM   #40 
                          - unless it's happened to you, you have no idea what you are talking about.  spanone   Mar-16-10 11:04 AM   #43 
                             - You told us. Mechanic screwed up.  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 11:06 AM   #47 
                                - the time frame is inconsequential. your argument from your armchair is useless.  spanone   Mar-16-10 11:07 AM   #50 
                                   - Actually it is not. Again, how long was your "incident?"  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 11:10 AM   #53 
                                      - you've made up your mind. my discussion on this subject is done.  spanone   Mar-16-10 11:16 AM   #57 
                                         - Of course you are "done" You equated your issue with your vehicle and your mechanic's error  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 11:19 AM   #59 
                                            - thanks for your enlightened posts, mr. toyoda.  spanone   Mar-16-10 01:47 PM   #77 
                                               - Honestly, if you can't see the difference...  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 02:33 PM   #83 
  - zero, zilch, nada  madokie   Mar-16-10 11:01 AM   #41 
  - Toyota was never going to hurt for long.  Codeine   Mar-16-10 10:27 AM   #3 
  - If GM didn't see the value in keeping NUMMI open, why should Toyota?  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 10:29 AM   #5 
  - GM was collapsing, while Toyota was surging.  Codeine   Mar-16-10 10:32 AM   #7 
  - Strange  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 10:36 AM   #9 
  - How about some thought that Toyota consumers might like to support union labor?  Romulox   Mar-16-10 10:47 AM   #20 
     - GM pulled out. Why did Toyota need to go from 1/2 plant in Fremont to a whole plant?  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 11:00 AM   #39 
        - Because it might be important to some Toyota consumers to support union labor...  Romulox   Mar-16-10 11:05 AM   #45 
        - So, let me get this right... Bankrupt GM leaves NUMMI...  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 11:09 AM   #52 
           - Toyota accounted for 79% of the vehicles produced there  blue_onyx   Mar-16-10 11:14 AM   #56 
           - GM, obviously had been in decline for many years.  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 11:17 AM   #58 
              - Because Toyota was planning...  blue_onyx   Mar-16-10 11:24 AM   #61 
                 - They are building a new plant in Blue Springs, MS to build the Prius.  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 11:32 AM   #62 
                    - From what I read...  blue_onyx   Mar-16-10 11:48 AM   #69 
                       - According to Toyota, TMMMS is not producing any vehicles at this time  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 11:59 AM   #73 
                          - So...  blue_onyx   Mar-16-10 12:06 PM   #75 
                             - Cost-prohibitive. nt  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 12:12 PM   #76 
           - Your question doesn't make sense. They can run at such capacity as is required.  Romulox   Mar-16-10 11:33 AM   #63 
              - Factual errors?  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 11:37 AM   #66 
                 - Yes. Toyota already occupied well over half the factory, in contradiction to your post. nt  Romulox   Mar-16-10 11:43 AM   #68 
                    - With the decline of GM, Toyota did, in fact, build more Corollas than GM did Vibes at NUMMI  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 11:51 AM   #70 
                       - If "makes sense" means "cynically exploited wage differentials knowing that consumer won't care"  Romulox   Mar-16-10 11:55 AM   #71 
        - Canadian Silverados were made by Canadian CAW members...  SidDithers   Mar-16-10 02:21 PM   #80 
  - I think they are pretty screwed for a while. Sales way down. Value of cars, way down.  zonkers   Mar-16-10 10:47 AM   #19 
  - Toyota should secretly pay the driver a million to admit it was a hoax just to tarnish other suits.  jody   Mar-16-10 10:28 AM   #4 
  - That sounds like a felony. nt  Romulox   Mar-16-10 10:48 AM   #23 
  - Selling a defective product that kills people is murder but corporations get away with murder. n/t  jody   Mar-16-10 11:37 AM   #65 
  - A variation on that idea  NoGOPZone   Mar-16-10 10:54 AM   #32 
  - I look at this as just another black mark on Toyota...  Atman   Mar-16-10 10:30 AM   #6 
  - But what if the car is not fucked up?  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 10:33 AM   #8 
     - Clearly it means that none of their cars are fucked up.  Barack_America   Mar-16-10 10:44 AM   #15 
        - That isn't the conclusion that I drew...  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 10:50 AM   #26 
           - I don't see where you get the "obviously lying" part.  Atman   Mar-16-10 10:53 AM   #29 
              - Evidence points to an obvious deception.  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 11:04 AM   #42 
                 - "Evidence points to an obvious deception".  Barack_America   Mar-16-10 11:07 AM   #49 
  - Yes. It means the Toyota cover-up never happened and all those people never died.  Barack_America   Mar-16-10 10:41 AM   #12 
  - Traffic accidents happen. Nearly 34,000 died in car accidents last year according to NHTSA.  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 10:48 AM   #22 
     - are you implying that NONE of the toyotas have had any problems?  spanone   Mar-16-10 10:51 AM   #27 
     - Not at all.  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 10:53 AM   #30 
     - And heart disease is the leading cause of death in America.  Barack_America   Mar-16-10 10:56 AM   #34 
  - Question: Why is everybody all of a sudden believing Toyota?  CanonRay   Mar-16-10 10:45 AM   #16 
  - Because in this particular instance the original story was fishy as a week old carp..  Fumesucker   Mar-16-10 10:49 AM   #24 
  - "confirmation bias". nt  Romulox   Mar-16-10 10:49 AM   #25 
  - Consumer Reports! Consumer Reports! nt  Codeine   Mar-16-10 10:56 AM   #33 
  - Not a chance...  Spazito   Mar-16-10 10:46 AM   #17 
  - Audi is quite popular today with upper end drivers..  Fumesucker   Mar-16-10 11:00 AM   #38 
     - Times were different then, imo...  Spazito   Mar-16-10 11:04 AM   #44 
     - Audi 5000 story made it onto 60 Minutes..  Fumesucker   Mar-16-10 11:08 AM   #51 
        - Go for it if that's your thing!  Spazito   Mar-16-10 11:12 AM   #55 
     - Really? I see 10 Lexi for every one Audi (to be generous). nt  Romulox   Mar-16-10 11:06 AM   #46 
     - How long did it take Audi to recover their reputation?  tammywammy   Mar-16-10 11:07 AM   #48 
  - No  tammywammy   Mar-16-10 10:59 AM   #37 
  - It may even come to Toyota having to change their name  quinnox   Mar-16-10 11:10 AM   #54 
  - Accenture!  Atman   Mar-16-10 02:14 PM   #79 
     - Think you mean Arthur Anderson...  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 02:32 PM   #82 
  - It is just their word against the driver at this point  liberal N proud   Mar-16-10 11:21 AM   #60 
  - I believe we are just days from a sincere tear-filled apology from the "driver."  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 11:33 AM   #64 
     - You believe? That's enough for me!  liberal N proud   Mar-16-10 11:55 AM   #72 
        - As predicted, this man's story is proving more unbelievable with every passing day  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 12:00 PM   #74 
  - False premise: they never had glory to go 'back to'  spoony   Mar-16-10 11:42 AM   #67 
  - Sounds like those slimy Toyota fuckers have been working hard to smear a guy their car almost killed  LostInAnomie   Mar-16-10 02:02 PM   #78 
  - Latest... he was bankrupt, 700K in debt, behind on prius payments  Liberal_in_LA   Mar-16-10 02:24 PM   #81 
  - So, being in financial trouble means that you are looking to commit fraud...  LostInAnomie   Mar-16-10 02:41 PM   #84 
     - Right or wrong, why do you think most car-insurers look at your credit score?  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-10 03:10 PM   #85 
  - What a crock - for CBS, and for most of the posts here!!!!!  Mopar151   Mar-16-10 03:30 PM   #86 

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