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Mon Mar-15-10 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #21 |
| 25. I actually meant to respond to the other person. |
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Edited on Mon Mar-15-10 04:42 PM by Marr
My mistake.
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| -Saunders versus Kucinich who is right |
grantcart |
Mar-15-10 03:39 PM |
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Split the baby in half! Everybody wins (and Everybody loses) |
hlthe2b |
Mar-15-10 03:43 PM |
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well said |
grantcart |
Mar-15-10 03:44 PM |
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well said |
mdmc |
Mar-15-10 03:46 PM |
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lol you must be my twin lol |
grantcart |
Mar-15-10 03:50 PM |
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yesyes |
mdmc |
Mar-15-10 04:01 PM |
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How does one "force" a better bill? nt |
Deep13 |
Mar-15-10 03:45 PM |
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The same way one improves the bill tomorrow. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Mar-15-10 03:46 PM |
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Which is what? nt |
Deep13 |
Mar-15-10 04:30 PM |
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I was being pessimistic. I don't think either is going to happen. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Mar-15-10 11:14 PM |
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Not to speak for Rep Kucinich but the health care system is under |
grantcart |
Mar-15-10 03:49 PM |
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OK. Without the public option this bill will be almost useless. |
Cal33 |
Mar-15-10 04:03 PM |
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The bill will save lives and save money |
grantcart |
Mar-15-10 04:07 PM |
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Uh huh. How does one "force" a better bill? nt |
Deep13 |
Mar-15-10 04:32 PM |
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How do you improve a bill later if you can't do it when it's got the national spotlight? |
Marr |
Mar-15-10 03:50 PM |
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the same way all big legislation has evolved |
grantcart |
Mar-15-10 03:57 PM |
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Yes, but those were steps in the right direction, later taken a bit further. |
Marr |
Mar-15-10 04:45 PM |
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Virtually all progressives disagree with you |
grantcart |
Mar-15-10 06:08 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Mar-15-10 06:19 PM |
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Well I sure need a raise |
grantcart |
Mar-15-10 07:18 PM |
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I'd happily pay to read a post by grantcart. |
saltpoint |
Mar-16-10 01:07 AM |
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Of course you realize it's a rules violation to imply someone is paid. |
Maru Kitteh |
Mar-16-10 01:14 AM |
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it didn't bother me and I didn't alert on it. |
grantcart |
Mar-16-10 02:27 AM |
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False analogy |
kenfrequed |
Mar-15-10 04:46 PM |
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Your condescention noted but actually I got the analogy of the Civil Rights bill |
grantcart |
Mar-15-10 05:49 PM |
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Feh |
kenfrequed |
Mar-15-10 09:33 PM |
#46 |
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The bill will save lives and save money |
grantcart |
Mar-16-10 02:37 AM |
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Nonsense |
kenfrequed |
Mar-16-10 10:17 AM |
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Your simply ignorant of the facts, unless you consider 26 million miniscule |
grantcart |
Mar-16-10 04:17 PM |
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Question time Mr. Bold print |
kenfrequed |
Mar-17-10 09:00 AM |
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Don't change the subject. |
Deep13 |
Mar-15-10 04:32 PM |
#21 |
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I actually meant to respond to the other person. |
Marr |
Mar-15-10 04:42 PM |
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Existing legislation gets amended and refined all the time |
anigbrowl |
Mar-16-10 02:59 AM |
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How did the Blue Dogs 'force' a worse bill? nt |
laughingliberal |
Mar-16-10 01:24 AM |
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Collaborating with the enemy. Still no answer to my question. nt |
Deep13 |
Mar-16-10 07:39 AM |
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It's interesting to me that every time a Blue Dog made a demand to make this bill worse |
laughingliberal |
Mar-16-10 11:15 AM |
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No argument here. nt |
Deep13 |
Mar-16-10 12:07 PM |
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'SO WHAT if the house is on fire? You can repaint it once you're inside!' |
Marr |
Mar-15-10 03:49 PM |
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And you can only repaint it with DLC-approved paint. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Mar-15-10 03:54 PM |
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I'm going with Sanders, only because I have no faith that we would |
gateley |
Mar-15-10 03:52 PM |
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ME TOO !! |
JanusAscending |
Mar-15-10 04:00 PM |
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+1 |
Hansel |
Mar-15-10 06:11 PM |
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"Defeat the bill and force a better bill." |
ProSense |
Mar-15-10 03:56 PM |
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Well in order to get a fair reading of what DU feels its probably a good |
grantcart |
Mar-15-10 03:59 PM |
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I choose to trust Saunders... |
Ozymanithrax |
Mar-15-10 04:16 PM |
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One problem I see. |
Andy823 |
Mar-15-10 04:35 PM |
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This kind of confrontation isn't at all helpful. |
bobbolink |
Mar-15-10 04:35 PM |
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I couldn't disagree more |
grantcart |
Mar-15-10 05:53 PM |
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I wouldn't expect you to actually see the sadness of this. |
bobbolink |
Mar-15-10 05:54 PM |
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The premise of the question is that no more negotiation is possible |
grantcart |
Mar-15-10 06:05 PM |
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Since in your toughness you don't have room to CARE (not pity) people in *my* position, |
bobbolink |
Mar-15-10 06:10 PM |
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Actually I have no problem going down that road if you want to, I actually |
grantcart |
Mar-15-10 07:31 PM |
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Divide and conquer |
kenfrequed |
Mar-16-10 10:18 AM |
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The socialist, not the grandstander. n/t |
Unvanguard |
Mar-15-10 04:47 PM |
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+1 |
Deep13 |
Mar-15-10 05:01 PM |
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Right on, could not have said it better myself. n/t |
O is 44 |
Mar-15-10 06:02 PM |
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I'm with Kucinich ... |
gleaner |
Mar-15-10 05:11 PM |
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I kicked in with Bernie. |
Jackpine Radical |
Mar-15-10 05:21 PM |
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I'm going to side with Bernie just about every time... |
Dappleganger |
Mar-15-10 05:21 PM |
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for the record I had a roommate in college whose name was Saunders |
grantcart |
Mar-15-10 05:32 PM |
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I'll listen to Bernie before Dennis every time. |
MineralMan |
Mar-15-10 07:29 PM |
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Bernie's approach is better. And he is a fellow New Englander. |
Jennicut |
Mar-15-10 09:37 PM |
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Bernie Sanders. |
Doremus |
Mar-15-10 11:10 PM |
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A "socialist" for mandated CORPORATE health care?? lol |
557188 |
Mar-15-10 11:36 PM |
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I'm with BERNIE! |
Maru Kitteh |
Mar-16-10 12:56 AM |
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Prog fight!!!!!!! |
Forkboy |
Mar-16-10 01:11 AM |
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lol no the fight has been going on I just wanted a sense of where |
grantcart |
Mar-16-10 02:32 AM |
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Saunders is the real thing. DK has run for president twice |
ecstatic |
Mar-16-10 01:21 AM |
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I am so with you |
anigbrowl |
Mar-16-10 03:06 AM |
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We aren't always able to hear Sanders on Thom Hartmann's program |
saltpoint |
Mar-16-10 01:22 AM |
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Dinner's on the table, but Dennis won't sit down to eat, because there's no dessert. |
Major Hogwash |
Mar-16-10 07:49 AM |
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There's no dinner either, just a big fat check for the unserved food. nt |
Lorien |
Mar-16-10 08:23 AM |
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It is not an issue of right and wrong between them, rather it is a right or wrong |
mmonk |
Mar-16-10 07:51 AM |
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why should we believe they'd start FIXING it tomorrow? |
NightWatcher |
Mar-16-10 07:58 AM |
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My take as well. If I thought this would lead to further change, I would |
mmonk |
Mar-16-10 08:07 AM |
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This is a tough question and a great poll question, btw - I lean with saunders |
deacon |
Mar-16-10 08:05 AM |
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Who is "Senator Saunders"? |
freddie mertz |
Mar-16-10 08:15 AM |
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lol mea culpa in reply 33 |
grantcart |
Mar-16-10 04:18 PM |
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If history is any indicator the bill will NEVER see a single improvement if passed |
Lorien |
Mar-16-10 08:22 AM |
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Because that's what happened with FDR and LBJ. SS and Medicare were passed and never changed. |
suzie |
Mar-16-10 08:45 AM |
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FDR didn't put the corporations in charge. |
mmonk |
Mar-16-10 08:51 AM |
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Uhm no |
kenfrequed |
Mar-16-10 10:22 AM |
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SS and Medicare were small fractions of what they are today when they |
grantcart |
Mar-16-10 04:20 PM |
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Sanders. No doubt about it. |
mzmolly |
Mar-16-10 11:17 AM |
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Bernie of course |
Mudoria |
Mar-16-10 01:22 PM |
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I Am. |
Toasterlad |
Mar-16-10 04:22 PM |
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I voted with Saunders although the word is circulating that |
quiller4 |
Mar-16-10 04:24 PM |
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In which case Kucinich will be supporting the Sanders position |
grantcart |
Mar-16-10 06:00 PM |
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They must have served damned good snacks on Air Force One. |
Major Hogwash |
Mar-16-10 08:19 PM |
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We will think... |
kenfrequed |
Mar-17-10 09:13 AM |
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Bernie by a country mile. |
Ikonoklast |
Mar-16-10 04:34 PM |
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As Berni, I stand with Bernie. |
berni_mccoy |
Mar-17-10 09:02 AM |
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