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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 10:55 AM
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73. And 10s of thousands per year to learn to cook???
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  -The New Poor: In Hard Times, Lured Into Trade School and Debt Liberal_in_LA  Mar-13-10 02:55 PM   #0 
  - Have you been listening in to our kitchen conversation?  SoCalDem   Mar-13-10 02:57 PM   #1 
  - We had a DUer a week or three ago all pumped up because he was starting ITT Tech..  Fumesucker   Mar-13-10 02:59 PM   #2 
  - The criminal justice ad runs constantly.  Liberal_in_LA   Mar-13-10 03:00 PM   #4 
  - And, when you graduate, you can get a job as a mall cop or  MineralMan   Mar-13-10 03:29 PM   #17 
     - The ads imply that the program leads to CSI / tv detective level employment  Liberal_in_LA   Mar-13-10 03:47 PM   #20 
        - Yeah, I know. But they don't train you for anything but  MineralMan   Mar-13-10 03:54 PM   #23 
           - community colleges have *all* the trade programs, somewhere. at a fraction of the cost of those  Hannah Bell   Mar-13-10 08:29 PM   #41 
  - Just searched for the thread  fujiyama   Mar-14-10 04:22 AM   #53 
  - OMG. Read further in the article about those "Le Cordon Bleu" culinary schools!  Liberal_in_LA   Mar-13-10 02:59 PM   # 
  - could be worse. could be DeVry  dionysus   Mar-15-10 02:18 PM   #84 
  - Another brilliant scam on the working poor  leftstreet   Mar-13-10 02:59 PM   #3 
  - and a scheme to defraud taxpayers..  girl gone mad   Mar-14-10 06:42 AM   #57 
  - There are so many experienced auto techs laid off from closed dealerships  Ikonoklast   Mar-13-10 03:03 PM   #5 
  - This sort of thing (technical schools) has been going on since the 80's  cutlassmama   Mar-13-10 03:04 PM   #6 
  - The fashion design schools really get me... how many fashion designers do we need?  Liberal_in_LA   Mar-13-10 03:08 PM   #8 
     - Those, the "chef's" school, the "Art Institute", and so on are all nothing but highly profitable  Greyhound   Mar-13-10 04:13 PM   #26 
     - The Art Institutes ARE respectable.  lapislzi   Mar-15-10 01:17 PM   #78 
        - The Art Institute in Houston is a joke.  Manifestor_of_Light   Mar-15-10 01:41 PM   #79 
        - What's really terrible is how this rip off places give themselves reputable SOUNDING names  Liberal_in_LA   Mar-15-10 02:12 PM   #83 
        - Sorry you had a bad experience  lapislzi   Mar-15-10 03:00 PM   #85 
           - The AI Houston IS part of that chain.  Manifestor_of_Light   Mar-16-10 02:45 AM   #92 
        - Thank you for the clarification  Liberal_in_LA   Mar-15-10 02:09 PM   #81 
     - don't forget travel agent and hotel manager "schools"  elehhhhna   Mar-15-10 03:44 PM   #90 
  - Nursing boards say new grads are having troulbe  Warpy   Mar-13-10 03:07 PM   #7 
  - Newly licensed 43 year old LPN here  njlib   Mar-15-10 03:20 PM   #87 
  - Used to be that "trade school" was called "vocational education" &  WolverineDG   Mar-13-10 03:09 PM   #9 
  - jeeezuzinahandbasket, they had home ec as a 4 year  onethatcares   Mar-13-10 03:15 PM   #11 
  - Home ec was a legitimate college degree back in the day. All the college food service  Liberal_in_LA   Mar-13-10 03:17 PM   #13 
  - Never mind about learning how to design & make your own clothes  WolverineDG   Mar-13-10 06:08 PM   #31 
  - So you're okay with banning voc ed from public schools?  WolverineDG   Mar-13-10 06:07 PM   #30 
     - oh, no. Not at all.  onethatcares   Mar-14-10 05:13 AM   #55 
     - okay, sorry :) nt  WolverineDG   Mar-14-10 11:59 AM   #63 
     - If I had my way  Retrograde   Mar-15-10 01:16 PM   #77 
  - Our local community college offers a mechanic and welding program.. low cost  Liberal_in_LA   Mar-13-10 03:16 PM   #12 
  - Employers are externalizing the price of training.  wickerwoman   Mar-13-10 04:08 PM   #25 
  - VocEd had to be eliminated, it was useful and actually contributed to social mobility  Greyhound   Mar-13-10 03:29 PM   #18 
  - Voc-ed died because everyone got told they needed a college degree  Generic Other   Mar-13-10 06:26 PM   #33 
  - Marketing college degrees was the point.  Greyhound   Mar-13-10 07:11 PM   #37 
  - Bingo! +1!  Odin2005   Mar-13-10 08:47 PM   #43 
  - No joke -- high school voc tech programs provided basic training and it didn't cost a cent.  Gormy Cuss   Mar-13-10 06:44 PM   #35 
  - Our district still offers a comprehensive vocational curriculum.  Doremus   Mar-13-10 09:15 PM   #47 
  - We have a magnet school for vo-tech in our county.  rucky   Mar-14-10 04:30 AM   #54 
  - Been happening for decades now, 'retrain for a new field of work'  RexS   Mar-13-10 03:13 PM   #10 
  - my own son is taking so many classes  Mari333   Mar-13-10 03:19 PM   #14 
  - I'm sorry Mari  K8-EEE   Mar-13-10 05:26 PM   #28 
  - Yep, school loan programs turned into corporate welfare.  Greyhound   Mar-13-10 03:21 PM   #15 
  - Where I am, the local community colleges offer equivalent programs,  MineralMan   Mar-13-10 03:28 PM   #16 
  - Same with our community colleges.  Rockholm   Mar-13-10 03:45 PM   #19 
  - Right. There are programs for many trades, including culinary arts,  MineralMan   Mar-13-10 03:49 PM   #22 
  - Classism and the desire to have a degree from a "good school".  Odin2005   Mar-13-10 08:50 PM   #45 
  - Like ITT Tech is a "good" school.  Rockholm   Mar-14-10 02:46 PM   #68 
  - Because they saw the ITT Tech ad on TeeVee  pstokely   Mar-14-10 08:29 AM   #58 
  - Around here, the CCs are overbooked & understaffed  SoCalDem   Mar-14-10 03:11 PM   #70 
  - Community college is the way to go  Juche   Mar-13-10 06:28 PM   #34 
  - television runs these ads  KT2000   Mar-13-10 03:49 PM   #21 
  - If you're going to get into the building trades, find an apprentice program instead.  Brickbat   Mar-13-10 03:56 PM   #24 
  - Organized labor  MichaelHarris   Mar-14-10 12:20 AM   #48 
  - Thank you.  Brickbat   Mar-14-10 12:41 PM   #64 
  - +1 That's the real deal.  Edweird   Mar-14-10 08:41 AM   #59 
     - Not only that, you earn while you learn!  Brickbat   Mar-14-10 12:42 PM   #65 
  - Don't want this to sink because of the assault on Kucinich.  Greyhound   Mar-13-10 04:49 PM   #27 
  - It's a great thread. These for-profit "schools" (read: scams) are the Payday Loans of education.  scarletwoman   Mar-13-10 08:24 PM   #40 
  - $30,000 a year for TRADE SCHOOL?!?!?!?!?!?!  Swamp Rat   Mar-13-10 05:39 PM   #29 
  - A nine month program at that.  aikoaiko   Mar-13-10 08:09 PM   #39 
  - And 10s of thousands per year to learn to cook???  Liberal_in_LA   Mar-15-10 10:55 AM   #73 
  - These insitutes are outright frauds and should be put out of business.  Jkid   Mar-13-10 06:17 PM   #32 
  - Community colleges definitely offer a much better "bang for your buck"  fujiyama   Mar-13-10 06:54 PM   #36 
  - Go to your local community college!!  Manifestor_of_Light   Mar-13-10 07:49 PM   #38 
  - Student Loan Debt is a form of social control by the Elites on the rest of us.  Odin2005   Mar-13-10 08:42 PM   #42 
  - Yes, that's it exactly! Excellent observation, thank you.  scarletwoman   Mar-14-10 12:26 AM   #49 
  - You're welcome!  Odin2005   Mar-14-10 11:38 AM   #61 
  - If it takes you that long, is it even worth it? nt  Dreamer Tatum   Mar-14-10 11:42 AM   #62 
     - For what I want to do, yes.  Odin2005   Mar-14-10 02:49 PM   #69 
  - K&R I would too avoid those for profit schools.....  Joe the Liberal   Mar-13-10 08:48 PM   #44 
  - I remember reading this long article on these "career" colleges in the Ft Worth Star Telegram  tammywammy   Mar-13-10 08:55 PM   #46 
  - K & R - very interesting and informative thread.  Raksha   Mar-14-10 12:49 AM   #52 
  - The primary 'careers' advertised on local cable today are: Law/criminal justice, some kind medical  Liberal_in_LA   Mar-15-10 10:54 AM   #72 
     - I go to a small private university  tammywammy   Mar-15-10 12:26 PM   #74 
        - OUCH for ITT. lol  Liberal_in_LA   Mar-15-10 02:08 PM   #80 
  - It's really sad. I see those commercials all the time  ecstatic   Mar-14-10 12:37 AM   #50 
  - I almost fell into this trap  johnlucas   Mar-14-10 12:39 AM   #51 
  - I was shaking my head tonight  upi402   Mar-14-10 05:31 AM   #56 
  - Thanks for the story. Glad you escaped the trap.  Liberal_in_LA   Mar-15-10 10:51 AM   #71 
  - "Retraining" of older laid-off workers was part of the "blame the victim" meme of conservatives.  DailyGrind51   Mar-14-10 09:32 AM   #60 
  - Lured  Naturalist111   Mar-14-10 12:57 PM   #66 
  - Indeed there are, but to what specifically were you referring? n/t  Greyhound   Mar-14-10 02:00 PM   #67 
     - keyword "many"  Naturalist111   Mar-16-10 09:31 PM   #93 
  - in times like these even BS and BA degress from real universities seem questionalble  dembotoz   Mar-15-10 12:45 PM   #75 
  - Sometimes even regular universities/colleges will tell prospective students that jobs are plentiful  raccoon   Mar-15-10 01:08 PM   #76 
  - I'm waving my B.A. in Biology and my J.D. (law degree) frantically!  Manifestor_of_Light   Mar-15-10 02:10 PM   #82 
  - $30k a year could get you into Harvard for a year or 4 years at a State College  LynneSin   Mar-15-10 03:05 PM   #86 
  - U of Phoenix online is CARLYLE GROUP, fyi and  elehhhhna   Mar-15-10 03:39 PM   #88 
  - look up ads for trade school "admissions" recruiters --  elehhhhna   Mar-15-10 03:41 PM   #89 
  - damn...some years ago i gave serious thought to WyoTech  Blue_Tires   Mar-15-10 03:50 PM   #91 

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