Malikshah
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Mon Apr-30-07 03:50 PM
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| 18. That's not simply one test. |
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He 1) caved in a miserable fashion
2) had the hubris to go on record as he did, thinking that folks would ignore it later on
3) has no regard for the history of this country; by opening the door for Alito, he and the others knew damn well what would happen.
That's not even adding in the callous disregard for over half the world's population.
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| -Be WARY of Obama - Remember his decrying the Alito filibuster |
debbierlus |
Apr-30-07 03:38 PM |
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Who should we support then? |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-30-07 03:39 PM |
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I'm voting for Sharkey The Impaler! |
IanDB1 |
Apr-30-07 03:41 PM |
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Celtic Pink? That's interesting! But my vote is with Vlad the Impaler |
HereSince1628 |
Apr-30-07 03:44 PM |
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Is it just me, or the poster who opened this thread |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-30-07 03:50 PM |
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kucinich but no one will vote for him-obama just another slippery pol |
natrat |
Apr-30-07 07:09 PM |
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The reanimated corpse of FDR!!! |
skipos |
Apr-30-07 03:47 PM |
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He failed ONE of your tests and now it's time to throw him overboard. |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-30-07 03:40 PM |
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Abortion rights is a big test - it's our lives and freedom at stake. n/t |
Captain_Nemo |
Apr-30-07 03:46 PM |
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That's not simply one test. |
Malikshah |
Apr-30-07 03:50 PM |
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the problem is that few people other than Kerry and Kennedy |
karynnj |
Apr-30-07 03:56 PM |
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Edwards, Kucinich, and Richardson did not have the power to do anything |
Malikshah |
Apr-30-07 04:07 PM |
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What any of them could have done was to have used whatever |
karynnj |
Apr-30-07 04:27 PM |
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A majority of the Senate Dems voted against cloture. |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-30-07 05:00 PM |
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exactly - what the op was saying is that they |
karynnj |
Apr-30-07 06:40 PM |
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Thank you. |
debbierlus |
Apr-30-07 04:00 PM |
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That is a HUGE test - |
debbierlus |
Apr-30-07 03:51 PM |
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ONE TEST? Jeeze -- It's only a flipping lifetime appt. to the system that can imprison us all n/t |
sproutster |
Apr-30-07 07:09 PM |
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I have other concerns about Obama, such as a lack of foreign... |
AX10 |
Apr-30-07 03:41 PM |
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Its strange because the people with the most experience are all in the second tier |
hnmnf |
Apr-30-07 03:43 PM |
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Yeah, and I bet those who question Obama's "experience" |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-30-07 03:48 PM |
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If I believed that Biden could win, Id vote for him. But since I dont, Ill vote for Obama |
hnmnf |
Apr-30-07 03:55 PM |
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I agree with you 100% The lack of foreign policy is a bit unnerving. A Carter redux would be bad. |
Captain_Nemo |
Apr-30-07 03:47 PM |
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Vote for Biden, Richardson or Dodd if experience is what you want |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-30-07 03:53 PM |
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Still, I would vote for Obama over any Republican! |
AX10 |
Apr-30-07 03:53 PM |
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The last two presidents with "foriegn Policy experience were Ike and Nixon |
Perky |
Apr-30-07 07:36 PM |
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Not quite the case... |
michaelwb |
May-01-07 07:59 AM |
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Cheney and Rummy had LOTS of foreign policy experience |
LSK |
Apr-30-07 03:58 PM |
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Obama is a warrior in my view... he sure is smart enough |
goclark |
Apr-30-07 03:58 PM |
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Kucinich, Gravel, Paul.....Gore. |
ORDagnabbit |
Apr-30-07 03:42 PM |
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I ask you again, who should we support then? |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-30-07 03:42 PM |
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I think it is more healthy now to say that "the jury is still out!" |
calipendence |
Apr-30-07 08:40 PM |
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A Catholic majority on the Court |
HockeyMom |
Apr-30-07 03:42 PM |
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I couldn't agree more. |
DURHAM D |
Apr-30-07 03:46 PM |
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Gee, thanks for the warning. Whew! That was a close one! |
Old Crusoe |
Apr-30-07 03:43 PM |
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... |
babylonsister |
Apr-30-07 03:54 PM |
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Hi, babylonsister. Thanks to the OP, I know not to trust anybody from |
Old Crusoe |
Apr-30-07 03:57 PM |
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All well here; the A/C went on yesterday sadly, but |
babylonsister |
Apr-30-07 04:05 PM |
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ah, then you're doing it right. Gardening's good stuff. |
Old Crusoe |
Apr-30-07 04:12 PM |
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Oh, give me a break. |
debbierlus |
Apr-30-07 04:09 PM |
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Well hell, debbierlus. You just dismissed the judgment of an entire state. |
Old Crusoe |
Apr-30-07 04:10 PM |
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Dammit!! |
WildEyedLiberal |
Apr-30-07 07:24 PM |
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WildEyedLiberal! Hi to ya, and a happy Monday evening. |
Old Crusoe |
Apr-30-07 07:29 PM |
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Obama may be green... |
rosesaylavee |
Apr-30-07 10:21 PM |
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You should be proud of your senators. A lot of the rest of us love 'em, too. |
Old Crusoe |
Apr-30-07 10:29 PM |
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Pro-Choice Americans should close ranks around reproductive ranks and never give in. |
Captain_Nemo |
Apr-30-07 03:45 PM |
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It isn't just about abortion, it is about leadership |
debbierlus |
Apr-30-07 03:56 PM |
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I am with you on this one. |
Captain_Nemo |
Apr-30-07 04:46 PM |
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debbierlus, who should we support? |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-30-07 03:52 PM |
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Kucinich over Obama, any day of the week |
debbierlus |
Apr-30-07 03:57 PM |
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And between the 3 top-tier candidates? |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-30-07 04:00 PM |
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I could deal with Edwards, but he has been a disappointment |
debbierlus |
Apr-30-07 04:01 PM |
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Cool... thanks for clarifying. |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-30-07 04:04 PM |
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You mean the guy who was anti-choice a couple of years ago? NT |
NYCGirl |
Apr-30-07 04:00 PM |
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He also...voted for a constitutional amendment to ban flag burning |
in_cog_ni_to |
Apr-30-07 06:04 PM |
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He did? |
zulchzulu |
Apr-30-07 06:08 PM |
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YES, he did. Here: |
in_cog_ni_to |
Apr-30-07 06:34 PM |
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Wow...not that I'm shocked...but... |
zulchzulu |
Apr-30-07 06:51 PM |
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dupe. |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-30-07 08:20 PM |
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Kucinich was 100% pro-life up before he started running for President |
stuartrida |
Apr-30-07 04:09 PM |
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I like the Eagles' song "Desperado" |
zulchzulu |
Apr-30-07 04:49 PM |
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Why would you ask her who you should vote for? She's just saying be wary - he failed a test |
Captain_Nemo |
Apr-30-07 04:49 PM |
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My view of Obama is that his instincts suck. |
DURHAM D |
Apr-30-07 03:52 PM |
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that exact strategy has him leading Hillary Clinton nationally |
Scriptor Ignotus |
Apr-30-07 08:49 PM |
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It is not his wussieness that has him leading. n/t |
DURHAM D |
Apr-30-07 09:17 PM |
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I'm not voting for him... |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-30-07 03:58 PM |
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I would agree with media made although his liberal voting record is impressive |
Captain_Nemo |
Apr-30-07 04:50 PM |
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there is no perfect candidate, you have to make choices |
LSK |
Apr-30-07 03:59 PM |
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I Think That You Utterly Misread This |
MannyGoldstein |
Apr-30-07 04:00 PM |
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Remember... the truth SUCKS! |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-30-07 04:01 PM |
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I did not misread this... |
debbierlus |
Apr-30-07 04:03 PM |
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Perhaps you haven't figured out that Obama voted AGAINST ALITO! |
zulchzulu |
Apr-30-07 04:02 PM |
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And, perhaps you did not read my entire post |
debbierlus |
Apr-30-07 04:08 PM |
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So you're one of those people who thinks votes come out of thin air? |
zulchzulu |
Apr-30-07 04:33 PM |
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But the votes weren't there for Pelosi and she managed to convince people |
Captain_Nemo |
Apr-30-07 05:15 PM |
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Did you get the memo? Obama voted AGAINST Alito! |
zulchzulu |
Apr-30-07 05:46 PM |
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Yes, we know that. He did not support a filibuster. From Democrats.com from that time: |
Captain_Nemo |
Apr-30-07 06:13 PM |
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BZZT!!! Wrong again! |
zulchzulu |
Apr-30-07 06:47 PM |
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Perhaps this is because Barack is also trying to please the anti-reproductive rights people? |
Captain_Nemo |
Apr-30-07 05:14 PM |
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Wow. So Obama voting AGAINST Alito was standing up for anti-reproductive rights people... |
zulchzulu |
Apr-30-07 05:48 PM |
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"he is against such a filibuster on "strategic grounds." |
Captain_Nemo |
Apr-30-07 06:15 PM |
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The simple fact is he should have been leading the fight for a filibuster |
debbierlus |
Apr-30-07 06:27 PM |
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Well said! |
Captain_Nemo |
Apr-30-07 06:32 PM |
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Answer with a simple yes or no. Did Obama vote to stop the filibuster? |
zulchzulu |
Apr-30-07 06:49 PM |
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Kucinich is just plain strange. |
illinoisprogressive |
Apr-30-07 10:49 PM |
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Obama and Biden Join the Filibster of Alito |
never cry wolf |
May-01-07 12:17 PM |
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Be WARY of flamebait and distortions about Obama to somehow get points... |
zulchzulu |
Apr-30-07 06:45 PM |
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Great post, thanks! |
seasonedblue |
Apr-30-07 06:49 PM |
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Excellent debunking. |
Exiled in America |
Apr-30-07 09:12 PM |
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Well in DU land... |
SaveElmer |
Apr-30-07 09:14 PM |
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And KooKoocinich Voted FOR the 'Partial Birth Abortion' Ban That Was Upheld |
REP |
May-01-07 04:19 AM |
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I gave a detailed explanation of my personal experience with this & Obama |
debbierlus |
May-01-07 10:59 AM |
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You simply can't admit you made a mistake... |
zulchzulu |
May-01-07 11:18 AM |
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ya know what, I have reservations about a lot of the candidates, but |
Lerkfish |
Apr-30-07 06:57 PM |
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I think the poster had a good point and its worth it to really look into these things. |
Captain_Nemo |
Apr-30-07 07:23 PM |
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ummm....I dunno, I see a bizarre uptick in obama bashing just today |
Lerkfish |
Apr-30-07 08:08 PM |
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I noticed it too. But I thought it was post debate stuff. I noticed a big lack of Barack posts |
Captain_Nemo |
Apr-30-07 09:47 PM |
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Propogating lies about a candidate is bullshit to me... |
zulchzulu |
Apr-30-07 09:51 PM |
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Tsk Tsk. |
Captain_Nemo |
Apr-30-07 11:01 PM |
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I know how you feel - it's been hard hearing people call Senator Clinton a whore and war monger. |
Captain_Nemo |
May-01-07 12:20 AM |
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I've been wary of him for awhile |
Generator |
Apr-30-07 08:13 PM |
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Thank You For Your Concern. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Apr-30-07 09:22 PM |
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More evidence that Barack is not "The Magic Negro" |
omega minimo |
Apr-30-07 10:12 PM |
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No one else has shown the Magic Vote Baking Oven Invention yet... do you have it? |
zulchzulu |
May-01-07 06:30 AM |
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Unless you can produce the Mystery Date Congress Edition Time Machine out of thin air |
omega minimo |
May-01-07 09:16 AM |
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Ever count stuff with your fingers? |
zulchzulu |
May-01-07 10:50 AM |
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Ever decide something isn't worth doing so you give up before you even TRY?!!!!111 |
omega minimo |
May-01-07 08:23 PM |
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I have a problem with people that think votes somehow just appear out of nowhere |
zulchzulu |
May-01-07 11:00 PM |
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I have a problem with people who think they can predict the future as if it's written in stone |
omega minimo |
May-02-07 12:13 AM |
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How many Democrats were in the last Congress? Do you know? |
zulchzulu |
May-02-07 07:21 AM |
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Magic Eight Ball says |
omega minimo |
May-02-07 09:13 AM |
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It's fine if you don't support him but, no reason to rant nasties about him. |
illinoisprogressive |
Apr-30-07 10:47 PM |
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I disagreed with him on the filibuster, but he is no fan of Alito! |
Pushed To The Left |
May-01-07 11:25 PM |
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He made me mad with his comments about baby boomers. |
Perragrande |
May-02-07 03:00 AM |
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