ShortnFiery
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Thu Mar-11-10 09:14 AM
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| 51. I have read many military science oriented books as well as Foreign Affairs. But thanks for asking. |
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And here I thought you didn't care.  |
| -Why I support the current Afghanistan Stategy |
NJmaverick |
Mar-11-10 08:21 AM |
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War is a racket |
notesdev |
Mar-11-10 08:23 AM |
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Please address the points I raised |
NJmaverick |
Mar-11-10 08:25 AM |
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OK |
notesdev |
Mar-11-10 09:02 AM |
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Note: 2 WWII's. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Mar-11-10 09:18 AM |
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Cool. When do YOU deploy? |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-10 08:23 AM |
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Please address the points I raised |
NJmaverick |
Mar-11-10 08:25 AM |
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I amended the above, check again. eom |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-10 08:27 AM |
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That doesn't address anything. Tell me I subscribe to military history magazine |
NJmaverick |
Mar-11-10 08:29 AM |
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I graduated in the upper 5% of my University Military Science class and was commissioned in the ... |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-10 08:36 AM |
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Well then why are you unable to discuss the military history????? |
NJmaverick |
Mar-11-10 08:41 AM |
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I'm not making baseless charges. Name an long term occupation that the USA has ... |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-10 08:58 AM |
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I see where no one is addressing your list, ShortnFiery |
robdogbucky |
Mar-11-10 12:49 PM |
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Given your ignorance on Afghanistan |
Robb |
Mar-11-10 08:53 AM |
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Oh here's the tag team right on time. No, I'm not ignorant but you and your buddy need to |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-10 08:59 AM |
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I would suggest you try reading a book or two. |
Robb |
Mar-11-10 09:11 AM |
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I have read many military science oriented books as well as Foreign Affairs. But thanks for asking. |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-10 09:14 AM |
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I meant on Afghanistan or Pakistan |
Robb |
Mar-11-10 09:29 AM |
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Yes, just read retired General Anthony Zinni's book, "The Battle for Peace." |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-10 10:02 AM |
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You continue to pursue the notion I am some kind of scholar |
Robb |
Mar-11-10 10:08 AM |
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No, by all means, please feel free to PM me a list and/or post it here? |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-10 10:48 AM |
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If you truly want your brain fried |
Robb |
Mar-11-10 10:58 AM |
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Typical lazy reply when a person has nothing substantive to say. |
NYC_SKP |
Mar-11-10 08:57 AM |
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Yes, can't have that. We must not let "our beautiful minds" see the result of our |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-10 09:09 AM |
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But that life, anything in life, could be as simple as right vs wrong, black vs white. |
NYC_SKP |
Mar-11-10 09:40 AM |
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Yes, of course it is. However, there's no sense in taking "opinion polls" because ... |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-10 09:55 AM |
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Humble, thoughtful, mindful. What BushCo members were not. |
NYC_SKP |
Mar-11-10 10:05 AM |
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No amount of polling data can detract from the fact that the USA is an "invading force." |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-10 10:50 AM |
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I see the "why aren't you enlisting" broken records are popping up. |
Odin2005 |
Mar-11-10 08:24 AM |
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Yes, I think it would be far more productive to have an intelligent discussion |
NJmaverick |
Mar-11-10 08:25 AM |
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But a very valid point. If you are "pro-war" then it makes perfect sense that you |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-10 08:30 AM |
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What you are doing is the same thing Bush did to trick the nation into the Iraq war |
NJmaverick |
Mar-11-10 08:32 AM |
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Oh we are having a very RAW albeit HONEST debate. It's one thing to READ UP on ... |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-10 08:47 AM |
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Showing your age. |
Robb |
Mar-11-10 08:56 AM |
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We did WIN the vast majority of battles, don't get cute. You can't win a MODERN occupation with |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-10 09:01 AM |
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Why can't we win an occupation with bombs and bullets in modern times? |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-10 09:05 AM |
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fear fear fear |
bigtree |
Mar-11-10 08:28 AM |
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Please address the points I raised |
NJmaverick |
Mar-11-10 08:30 AM |
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nah. you're a lost cause |
bigtree |
Mar-11-10 08:33 AM |
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sigh.... |
NJmaverick |
Mar-11-10 08:35 AM |
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please address the points I raised in my post further down |
Lerkfish |
Mar-11-10 08:47 AM |
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I do not support the Afghan war. |
panader0 |
Mar-11-10 08:33 AM |
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At this point victory would be a stable Afghan government that prevents |
NJmaverick |
Mar-11-10 08:37 AM |
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Yes, some element of the Taliban - those cozy with our puppet Karzai - are our friends. |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-10 09:53 AM |
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wow, you really love bashing people over the head with "Please address the points I raised" |
NightWatcher |
Mar-11-10 08:33 AM |
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I raised real discussion points and explained the reasoning behind my opinions |
NJmaverick |
Mar-11-10 08:38 AM |
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and other points were raised by others, but you dont want to talk about them |
NightWatcher |
Mar-11-10 08:42 AM |
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And as long as it's "our" war |
spoony |
Mar-11-10 09:21 AM |
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I would not consider our current deployments the "best option available" |
Lerkfish |
Mar-11-10 08:39 AM |
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Great post -- I agree 100%. n/t |
driver8 |
Mar-11-10 08:43 AM |
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You make some good points |
NJmaverick |
Mar-11-10 08:48 AM |
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I'll have to disagree with your assessment |
Lerkfish |
Mar-11-10 08:50 AM |
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Polls of the Afghan people show the US is more popular than most people realize |
NJmaverick |
Mar-11-10 09:00 AM |
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Holy Shit! And you actually believe the manufacture polls? |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-10 09:16 AM |
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aren't people being killed now? |
Lerkfish |
Mar-11-10 11:41 AM |
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Good points, but you're really describing what Bush/Cheney did. |
NYC_SKP |
Mar-11-10 08:55 AM |
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I used to think like you as well, BUT |
samrock |
Mar-11-10 08:40 AM |
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Why aren't you writing from your outpost in Afghanistan? |
TexasObserver |
Mar-11-10 08:48 AM |
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Too old and arthritic knees don't make that an option |
NJmaverick |
Mar-11-10 08:50 AM |
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Join up with a contractor?!? They'll take you in a heartbeat. eom |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-10 09:12 AM |
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There's nothing to debate. I reject all your points and see no validity in them. |
TexasObserver |
Mar-11-10 09:38 AM |
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Thanks for THINKING! I'm sick of the intellectually lazy one liners like, "War is A Racket". |
NYC_SKP |
Mar-11-10 08:52 AM |
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I would venture to say that the Average Afghan citizen just want us OUT of their COUNTRY? |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-10 09:24 AM |
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It would be an interesting question to ask across different demographics there. |
NYC_SKP |
Mar-11-10 09:38 AM |
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The trouble is that it doesn't matter when we leave, nor what we do, |
MadHound |
Mar-11-10 08:56 AM |
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I thought the Afghan mission was revenge for 911? Where's Bin Laden? |
Romulox |
Mar-11-10 08:57 AM |
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Even diamonds will break down (given enough time) nothing stays the same |
NJmaverick |
Mar-11-10 09:08 AM |
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War is a constant. Justifications change rapidly though. nt |
Romulox |
Mar-11-10 09:16 AM |
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What if the result of involvment can't prevent any of the above |
Johonny |
Mar-11-10 08:59 AM |
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You raise a key point and one that I think disputes over the merits of the plan should be focused on |
NJmaverick |
Mar-11-10 09:18 AM |
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Yes, because the USA is the only entity who can save those poor savages in AF-PAC ... |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-10 09:21 AM |
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False dichotomy |
zipplewrath |
Mar-11-10 09:07 AM |
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I'll play.... |
Bigmack |
Mar-11-10 09:09 AM |
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Good Post also read.."The Bear went over the Mountain" |
Ichingcarpenter |
Mar-11-10 09:54 AM |
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How many Americans should die for this Islamic republic you've set up in Afghanistan? |
grahamhgreen |
Mar-11-10 09:40 AM |
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Your arguments are essentially the same one's LBJ and Nixon used. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-11-10 10:19 AM |
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you have beautifully expressed the neo-colonialist's view of the white man's burden.... |
mike_c |
Mar-11-10 10:24 AM |
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Only the great America can save Afghanistan from itself. |
tekisui |
Mar-11-10 10:31 AM |
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You support the current Afghanistan Stategy -- |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Mar-11-10 10:35 AM |
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^ This. |
FLAprogressive |
Mar-11-10 10:52 AM |
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Tit for tat, what could be more fair? |
robdogbucky |
Mar-11-10 11:38 AM |
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No one likes war??? |
G_j |
Mar-11-10 11:40 AM |
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