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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 10:27 AM
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59. Just my opinion..
Consumer reports does'nt LIKE cars very much. How it drives on a track, or a handling(autocross) course at it's limits, means very little to them, while it means the world to a Grassroots Motorsports reader. So much so that GRM often uses equal tires for comparison tests, to factor out that variable.
The low- inertia drivetrain I adore is anathemic to most Consumer Reports readers, who would complain bitterly about idle quality and stalling on start. In fact, the flywheels on Toyotas of my experience outweigh the ones on American V-8's, in cars that weigh twice what the Toyota does.
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  -Prius is a "Top Pick" in the Consumer Reports April 2010 "Automobile Issue" Kolesar  Mar-10-10 11:34 AM   #0 
  - As Maxwell Smart might say, "Missed it by *that* much."  GodlessBiker   Mar-10-10 11:40 AM   #1 
  - LOL  FourScore   Mar-10-10 11:45 AM   #2 
  - I've avoided the Toyota threads thus far.  Maat   Mar-10-10 12:00 PM   #3 
  - 2006 Prius owner here as well  frazzled   Mar-10-10 12:06 PM   #4 
  - I drove a Camry for 250,000 mi trouble-free  starsky9   Mar-10-10 12:13 PM   #5 
  - Someone on a Toyota thread pointed out that SUVs have killed thousands through faulty design..  Fumesucker   Mar-10-10 12:16 PM   #6 
  - So much money wrapped up in the industry. Agendas are a given...  Orsino   Mar-10-10 12:18 PM   #8 
  - 1st gen. Toyota 4x4 p.u  Mopar151   Mar-11-10 10:03 AM   #54 
  - The timing has to do with the Bush misadministration being out of power  divideandconquer   Mar-10-10 12:50 PM   #11 
  - I'm suspicious of Toyota owners who STILL... to this DAY... think  Kalyke   Mar-10-10 12:59 PM   #14 
  - Got any more stereotypes you'd like to throw around?  PVnRT   Mar-10-10 01:15 PM   #16 
  - Brie eating.. He forgot that one..  Fumesucker   Mar-10-10 01:17 PM   #17 
  - Then there is "arugula". But do we have to have to change  galileoreloaded   Mar-10-10 04:18 PM   #28 
  - I also eat greens to the point that I have to eat Brie to keep from  Kalyke   Mar-10-10 11:57 PM   #38 
  - I'm not a "he" and I eat Brie.  Kalyke   Mar-10-10 11:56 PM   #37 
  - Rice burner, big whoop.  Kalyke   Mar-10-10 11:55 PM   #36 
     - Another reason why I advocate population control  kktk5950   Mar-12-10 12:33 PM   #85 
  - They also like the idea of caring about issues more than actually doing so  spoony   Mar-10-10 01:59 PM   #22 
  - Toyota is nothing special.  Grand Taurean   Mar-10-10 06:08 PM   #33 
     - Funny, isn't it?  Kalyke   Mar-11-10 12:03 AM   #40 
     - Just my opinion..  Mopar151   Mar-11-10 10:27 AM   #59 
  - self-delete  lucas_g20   Mar-10-10 04:15 PM   #27 
  - UAW member or spouse?  SimonPhoenix   Mar-11-10 12:09 AM   #42 
  - Toyota gets gov't funds and subsidies  Codeine   Mar-11-10 01:38 AM   #45 
  - I will.  Maat   Mar-11-10 01:59 PM   #72 
     - Statistics, please  Mopar151   Mar-11-10 04:54 PM   #76 
        - You won't get any info from that poster  blue_onyx   Mar-11-10 05:20 PM   #78 
           - He's a "low information driver"  Mopar151   Mar-11-10 05:40 PM   #80 
  - Sayanora, troll.  spoony   Mar-11-10 09:36 AM   #49 
  - Toyota is taking plenty of incentive money for their new plants  Mopar151   Mar-11-10 05:03 PM   #77 
  - Right on. This is as much about Toyota owner's need to defend their own egos as anything!  Romulox   Mar-11-10 10:06 AM   #56 
  - Ding! Ding!Ding!  Mopar151   Mar-11-10 10:42 AM   #62 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-12-10 01:43 AM   #82 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-12-10 11:40 AM   #83 
  - I'm suspicious of Toyota owners who STILL... to this DAY... think  Kalyke   Mar-10-10 01:00 PM   #15 
  - I get 45 miles to the gallon, in city.  Maat   Mar-10-10 06:01 PM   #32 
     - Ford makes the Fusion Hybrid  blue_onyx   Mar-10-10 06:58 PM   #35 
        - Using technology licensed (or "inspired") from Toyota's hybrid setup.  PBS Poll-435   Mar-11-10 01:22 AM   #43 
           - Nope. The Fusion hybrid was independentally developed by Ford. Look it up.  Romulox   Mar-11-10 10:07 AM   #57 
              - Sure it was.  PBS Poll-435   Mar-11-10 03:23 PM   #75 
  - Avoided Toyota threads?  blue_onyx   Mar-10-10 03:46 PM   #25 
  - Problems?  Maat   Mar-10-10 05:58 PM   #31 
     - You can't be serious  blue_onyx   Mar-10-10 06:52 PM   #34 
     - And MOST of us, who have been buying American for years  Kalyke   Mar-11-10 12:01 AM   #39 
     - So what is your argument? Are you going to refuse to have the recall work done on your car?  Romulox   Mar-11-10 10:34 AM   #60 
     - NO problems?  Mopar151   Mar-11-10 05:32 PM   #79 
  - Most people won't experience problems  TommyO   Mar-10-10 04:20 PM   #29 
  - From unexplained aceleration and in the same time period...  Hepburn   Mar-11-10 09:52 AM   #51 
  - Are you insinuating our administration is deliberately destroying Toyota?  AngryAmish   Mar-11-10 09:52 AM   #52 
  - "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"  Orsino   Mar-10-10 12:16 PM   #7 
  - Any data on many seconds it took to go from from 0-94?  TheCowsCameHome   Mar-10-10 12:26 PM   #9 
  - LMAO.  Brickbat   Mar-10-10 12:47 PM   #10 
  - Yep. They boxed themselves in for so many years they can't back out now.  spoony   Mar-10-10 12:56 PM   #13 
  - nyuk nyuk nyuk . . . someone at CR doesn't follow the news . . . n/t  OneBlueSky   Mar-10-10 12:54 PM   #12 
  - Or maybe they don't fall for media driven hysteria..  Fumesucker   Mar-10-10 01:18 PM   #18 
     - Lol.  spoony   Mar-10-10 01:57 PM   #21 
     - sorry, but I'm driving one of the Toyotas on the list . . .  OneBlueSky   Mar-11-10 01:43 AM   #46 
        - It's Consumer Reports job to *shield* you from that bad news. So you can be informed.  Romulox   Mar-11-10 10:36 AM   #61 
  - We just traded in our 2007 last night for a new 2010  Bill219   Mar-10-10 01:54 PM   #19 
  - We just traded in our 2007 last night for a new 2010  Bill219   Mar-10-10 01:54 PM   #20 
  - Consumer Reports also gives 'high marks' to the current  Bluenorthwest   Mar-10-10 02:05 PM   #23 
  - The criteria are listed for you. Notice that recalls and hysteria are not included. NT  dmallind   Mar-10-10 03:35 PM   #24 
  - I would think both recalls and firey deaths are embraced by the "Reliability" category...  Romulox   Mar-11-10 10:08 AM   #58 
  - The OP explains how the Reliability rating is compiled  NoGOPZone   Mar-11-10 10:42 AM   #63 
     - I don't think this is an issue that can be parsed away. Sorry.  Romulox   Mar-11-10 10:45 AM   #64 
        - I don't think an explanation of the facts is 'parsing away'  NoGOPZone   Mar-11-10 10:56 AM   #65 
           - Ummm, the 2010 Prius has already been subject to one recall...  Romulox   Mar-11-10 11:04 AM   #66 
              - For? I'm aware of an ABS recall for 2010  NoGOPZone   Mar-11-10 11:05 AM   #67 
                 - Brake failure. nt  Romulox   Mar-11-10 11:07 AM   #68 
                    - Last word from Toyota is that 2010 won't be recalled for acceleration issues yet  NoGOPZone   Mar-11-10 11:15 AM   #70 
                       - CR's editors should have held back their recommendation until the dust settles.  Romulox   Mar-11-10 11:23 AM   #71 
  - Actually, safety recalls are considered. CR has temporarily "suspended recommendations"  Thegonagle   Mar-11-10 02:29 PM   #74 
  - A few bad cars on CNN do not a trend make....  vicdoc   Mar-10-10 04:02 PM   #26 
  - Um.. vic... Japanese cars are all subsidized by their government.  Kalyke   Mar-11-10 12:07 AM   #41 
  - Prius is a "Top Pick" in the Consumer Reports April 2010 "Automobile Issue"  SycamoreFlynn   Mar-10-10 04:41 PM   #30 
  - Consumer Reports is a joke.  Codeine   Mar-11-10 01:36 AM   #44 
  - Agreed n/t  tammywammy   Mar-11-10 09:55 AM   #53 
  - I drive this...  PJPhreak   Mar-11-10 02:09 AM   #47 
  - Toyota's technical problems are anecdotal (for now), not statistical trends (yet).  DemoTex   Mar-11-10 03:20 AM   #48 
  - Thank you for a rational, reasoned response  Mopar151   Mar-11-10 11:13 AM   #69 
  - deadlines  melm00se   Mar-11-10 09:50 AM   #50 
  - I've said it before--Consumer Reports is one of the biggest casualties in this scandal. nt  Romulox   Mar-11-10 10:04 AM   #55 
  - Consumer Reports, been suckin' tailpipes for way too long.  DainBramaged   Mar-11-10 02:10 PM   #73 
  - Would you beleive a steakhouse review from a vegetarain? n/t  Mopar151   Mar-11-10 05:48 PM   #81 
     - Good point (hope you are well)  DainBramaged   Mar-12-10 11:46 AM   #84 
        - I'm tryin' n/t  Mopar151   Mar-12-10 01:45 PM   #88 
  - Toyota is a multinational corporation. It exists to produce profit for its shareholders  anonymous171   Mar-12-10 12:35 PM   #86 
  - just call the damned thing PRIAPUS and get it over with  Mari333   Mar-12-10 12:36 PM   #87 
     - Copyright infringement ...  Nihil   Mar-14-10 07:09 PM   #89 
 

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