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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 10:48 AM
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3. EVERYBODY knew!
That's what's so fucking ridiculous. And another thing...what do all these revelations do to Bush's (and the freepers') "But they all had the same intelligence WE did?" meme? Seems to kinda shoot a big gaping hole in it, doesn't it?

"When once you practice to deceive..."

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  -Sen. Durbin knew donsu  Apr-30-07 10:41 AM   #0 
  - He could have publicly stated that the information being fed to the public  AndyA   Apr-30-07 10:46 AM   #1 
  - So could Edwards - who you are supporting  karynnj   Apr-30-07 10:54 AM   #5 
  - I'm not excluding Edwards from this at all.  AndyA   Apr-30-07 11:03 AM   #8 
     - Why don't you give the same break to Durbin?  karynnj   Apr-30-07 12:10 PM   #21 
        - Maybe I should give Durbin a break, but I don't like the way he's handled this at all.  AndyA   Apr-30-07 02:09 PM   #56 
           - That's fair  karynnj   Apr-30-07 02:49 PM   #57 
           - maybe you should read the ENTIRE THREAD  LSK   Apr-30-07 03:05 PM   #60 
              - Yes, I've read the thread. Several times.  AndyA   Apr-30-07 03:27 PM   #62 
  - Durbin did say it at the time. He said on the Senate floor in 2002  rosesaylavee   Apr-30-07 12:49 PM   #42 
  - Since he's 'talking' now, has he been released from his secrecy oath?  Sapphire Blue   Apr-30-07 10:47 AM   #2 
  - Has Edwards been released from his secrecy oath?  WesDem   Apr-30-07 12:06 PM   #18 
  - Probably been declassified. n/t  ieoeja   Apr-30-07 12:36 PM   #33 
     - If that's the case, wouldn't his office have been able to answer the question?  Sapphire Blue   Apr-30-07 12:46 PM   #40 
  - EVERYBODY knew!  Atman   Apr-30-07 10:48 AM   #3 
  - Many Democrats long ago hit that meme  karynnj   Apr-30-07 10:56 AM   #6 
  - the details are all so vague at the moment. Will have to read more.  rodeodance   Apr-30-07 11:05 AM   #9 
  - love your avatar  mdmc   Apr-30-07 12:13 PM   #24 
  - First, a huge caveat  Don Claybrook   Apr-30-07 10:49 AM   #4 
  - I agree.  Atman   Apr-30-07 11:00 AM   #7 
  - You do not know Durbin. We in Illinois do. Lay off! he is a good person.  illinoisprogressive   Apr-30-07 11:19 AM   #10 
  - Has he been released from his secrecy oath?  Sapphire Blue   Apr-30-07 11:20 AM   #11 
  - No  dave_p   Apr-30-07 12:43 PM   #38 
  - doesn't swearing an oath to a criminal make you a criminal too?  donsu   Apr-30-07 11:24 AM   #13 
  - BECAUSE. HE. COULD. HAVE. BEEN. PROSECUTED.  truebrit71   Apr-30-07 12:25 PM   #27 
     - So if you were watching soldiers and civilians die day after day  magellan   Apr-30-07 12:58 PM   #47 
     - Exactly. Just as Sir Thomas More was. No "Man for All Seasons" is Durbin, I guess.  WinkyDink   Apr-30-07 02:01 PM   #55 
        - I think Sen Durbin could have down more...but you must keep in mind the context...  truebrit71   Apr-30-07 03:00 PM   #58 
  - Exactly - Edwards behavior seems worse, to me  MH1   Apr-30-07 11:26 AM   #14 
  - Did he and does he continue to vote to fund the war? All we need to know about him, really.  Roland99   Apr-30-07 11:23 AM   #12 
  - Bob Graham Ex Senator from Fla lost his seat  OHdem10   Apr-30-07 11:47 AM   #15 
  - sunshine will win us the next election - enough with keeping silent  donsu   Apr-30-07 12:01 PM   #16 
  - I supported Graham when he ran for president  WesDem   Apr-30-07 12:04 PM   #17 
  - He did not lose his seat. He left it.  jsamuel   Apr-30-07 12:09 PM   #20 
  - He CHOOSE not to run a race he would have won  karynnj   Apr-30-07 12:13 PM   #25 
  - Graham knew all durbin did and alot more he didn't tell!!  flyarm   Apr-30-07 12:38 PM   #36 
  - There is scant if little evidence that Iraq has a nuclear weapon" - Dick Durbin 10/10/02  LSK   Apr-30-07 12:08 PM   #19 
  - For me, the most important quote of all in LSK's post is this:  mohinoaklawnillinois   Apr-30-07 12:35 PM   #32 
     - Bill Moyers documentary illustrated how Dems were IGNORED in 2002  LSK   Apr-30-07 12:36 PM   #34 
     - Not just memory loss on the subject of Durbin.  davsand   Apr-30-07 12:53 PM   #44 
     - Treason is allowing Americans to die in war based on a lie.  BuyingThyme   Apr-30-07 01:06 PM   #48 
        - Taking Top Secret info public is also considered treason.  davsand   Apr-30-07 01:17 PM   #51 
           - Yes.  BuyingThyme   Apr-30-07 01:18 PM   #52 
     - Exactly LSK, and for those who missed it, check out  mohinoaklawnillinois   Apr-30-07 12:56 PM   #46 
     - Yes, Sen. Durbin spoke out about this  seasonedblue   Apr-30-07 12:37 PM   #35 
  - Everyone knew. Now that it is popular, everyone is anti-war.  mdmc   Apr-30-07 12:11 PM   #22 
  - I guess you posted this before reading post #19. n/t  ieoeja   Apr-30-07 12:31 PM   #29 
     - Back then, I remember Dean and Kucinich opposing the war  mdmc   Apr-30-07 12:40 PM   #37 
  - wasn't Edwards on the Intel Committee?  leftchick   Apr-30-07 12:13 PM   #23 
  - Since when? Since they are bound by LAW to not disclose TOP SECRET information...  truebrit71   Apr-30-07 12:23 PM   #26 
  - If there's no statute of limitations on intel committee secrecy  magellan   Apr-30-07 12:28 PM   #28 
  - Probably been declassified. n/t  ieoeja   Apr-30-07 12:35 PM   #31 
  - True, portions were declassified September last year  magellan   Apr-30-07 12:47 PM   #41 
  - The "intelligence" is already discredited  dave_p   Apr-30-07 12:50 PM   #43 
  - Senate Intelligence Committee Report Pre-War Iraq  nomatrix   Apr-30-07 12:55 PM   #45 
     - Rockefeller: Cheney applied 'constant' pressure to stall investigation on flawed Iraq intelligence  WesDem   Apr-30-07 03:35 PM   #63 
  - And ... he DID. See post #19.  ieoeja   Apr-30-07 12:34 PM   #30 
  - Not true at all.  BuyingThyme   Apr-30-07 12:46 PM   #39 
  - 16 Senators on the Intelligence Committee Knew.  Laurab   Apr-30-07 01:07 PM   #49 
  - Durbin is far less  seasonedblue   Apr-30-07 01:14 PM   #50 
  - My problem is with those on the committee who voted YES  WesDem   Apr-30-07 01:28 PM   #54 
     - Exactly.  truebrit71   Apr-30-07 03:01 PM   #59 
     - You said it better than I did...  seasonedblue   Apr-30-07 03:11 PM   #61 
  - If I wanted to read Democrat-bashing, I'd go to  brentspeak   Apr-30-07 01:21 PM   #53 
  - Wake up folks! Durbin voted AGAINST the IWR & look at his voting record!!!  Pachamama   May-01-07 12:53 AM   #64 
  - White House tried to have Durbin thrown off the Senate Intelligence Committee  WesDem   May-01-07 05:19 AM   #68 
     - And behind the scenes, I bet they were doing far worse....  Pachamama   May-01-07 05:26 AM   #69 
  - who was on that committee that still voted YES on the IWR?  mark414   May-01-07 01:00 AM   #65 
  - The Dems on the Committee and how they voted....  FrenchieCat   May-01-07 01:56 AM   #67 
  - Once more, with feeling....  Tatiana   May-01-07 01:10 AM   #66 

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