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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:50 PM
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58. Sooner Or Later, Sir, You Will Need To Get Specific
At least, if you wish to carry your point as a matter of experience rather than ideology.
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  -Let me kill the myth about the NHS - it saved my life and I am forever grateful. TheBigotBasher  Mar-09-10 09:41 PM   #0 
  - I have fond memories of the Canadian HS so I can only imagine  truedelphi   Mar-09-10 09:44 PM   #1 
  - It wasn't heart  TheBigotBasher   Mar-09-10 09:49 PM   #3 
  - my opinion is that the system in the US is better if you have insurance  vadawg   Mar-09-10 09:48 PM   #2 
  - The best private health care  TheBigotBasher   Mar-09-10 09:51 PM   #4 
  - yup but i would rather have what i have now (insured) in the US than go to the NHS  vadawg   Mar-09-10 09:53 PM   #5 
     - It makes sense  TheBigotBasher   Mar-09-10 09:56 PM   #6 
     - well ill try again, me having insurance means i have better care than the NHS would give me  vadawg   Mar-09-10 09:58 PM   #8 
        - My aunt has insurance. WHen she was diagnosed with multiple myeloma last month, she had to wait  SemiCharmedQuark   Mar-09-10 10:08 PM   #14 
        - yeah right, you do realise that there are waiting lists in the NHS,  vadawg   Mar-09-10 10:11 PM   #17 
        - Not true. My MIL has cancer and her treatment has been top notch  SemiCharmedQuark   Mar-09-10 10:14 PM   #20 
        - okay so why then do they even list the waiting times for diseases eg cancers  vadawg   Mar-09-10 10:18 PM   #24 
           - To deny that insurance companies can hang you up for just as long just means you haven't seen  laughingliberal   Mar-09-10 10:21 PM   #30 
           - That is not for cancer.  TheBigotBasher   Mar-09-10 10:48 PM   #56 
              - yup but the treatment might not begin until the longer target, much better than it used to be  vadawg   Mar-09-10 10:51 PM   #59 
        - Not for cancer treatment.  TheBigotBasher   Mar-09-10 10:16 PM   #22 
        - well according to the new law there can stil be an 18 week wait  vadawg   Mar-09-10 10:19 PM   #26 
        - An 18 week wait MAX followed by punishment of the NHS if they fail to comply  SemiCharmedQuark   Mar-09-10 10:24 PM   #32 
        - And you dont think people have to argue with the NHS for treatments  vadawg   Mar-09-10 10:26 PM   #37 
           - NHS does not have to turn a profit. As such, they do not have the extra incentive to screw you.  SemiCharmedQuark   Mar-09-10 10:28 PM   #38 
           - No people do not have to argue for treatment.  TheBigotBasher   Mar-09-10 10:42 PM   #54 
           - will you move with Limbaugh if US finally gets health care for all?  WillYourVoteBCounted   Mar-10-10 11:02 PM   #111 
        - If those standards are not met  TheBigotBasher   Mar-09-10 10:28 PM   #40 
        - Hell, here your insurance company can tie you up for a couple of months or more if they so choose  laughingliberal   Mar-09-10 10:19 PM   #28 
           - That is correct. Insurance Cos have an incentive to not treat you. NHS does not.  SemiCharmedQuark   Mar-09-10 10:25 PM   #34 
              - Absolutely, I've dealt with it as a nurse trying to get help for patients who have 'coverage'  laughingliberal   Mar-09-10 10:28 PM   #39 
        - And in the U.S. if you don't have the cash or insurance you will wait until you die  dflprincess   Mar-09-10 10:25 PM   #35 
        - And when I had "good" insurance back in Oregon  Lydia Leftcoast   Mar-10-10 09:44 AM   #97 
           - At an optician?  TheBigotBasher   Mar-10-10 11:36 AM   #101 
              - No, I get my eye exams from a clinic because there are both  Lydia Leftcoast   Mar-10-10 01:25 PM   #106 
        - For fucks sake, you have to wait here. Very rarely can you call...........  pattmarty   Mar-10-10 07:36 AM   #94 
           - "like your insurance because it must be EXCELLENT"....  bvar22   Mar-10-10 12:21 PM   #102 
              - Yep.  pattmarty   Mar-11-10 07:47 AM   #114 
        - Yeah, that's the counter to that whole 'waiting in line for care' crap  laughingliberal   Mar-09-10 10:15 PM   #21 
           - Yep-it seems the options are: you wait for routine care (UK) or you wait for emergency care (US)  SemiCharmedQuark   Mar-09-10 10:19 PM   #25 
        - I get what you're saying but I would like to just say this  laughingliberal   Mar-09-10 10:11 PM   #18 
           - You have to pay to see a doctor in the US  TheBigotBasher   Mar-09-10 10:59 PM   #64 
           - Yes, from experience treatment in ER is the same insurance or not....  amyrose2712   Mar-10-10 08:52 AM   #96 
     - I would rather have NHS.  Crunchy Frog   Mar-10-10 06:41 AM   #92 
  - No it's not, the US system sucks PERIOD, even if you have insurance it sucks.....  Joe the Liberal   Mar-09-10 09:59 PM   #9 
  - i would disagree with you, i have found the US system to be good, perhaps as i have good insurance  vadawg   Mar-09-10 10:01 PM   #10 
  - If you have good insurance that doesn't drop your coverage.....  Joe the Liberal   Mar-09-10 10:07 PM   #13 
  - and as i said i have had nothing but good experiences with the US system  vadawg   Mar-09-10 10:08 PM   #15 
     - Lucky you. But I would caution this just mean you, likely, have not hit your insurance company's hot  laughingliberal   Mar-09-10 10:25 PM   #33 
     - Describe, Sir, Some Of Your Experiences, Please....  The Magistrate   Mar-09-10 10:26 PM   #36 
        - births of children, checkups of same, specialised care of same  vadawg   Mar-09-10 10:29 PM   #41 
           - All Under The Same Policy, Sir? from Your Employer?  The Magistrate   Mar-09-10 10:30 PM   #42 
              - spread over three different employers.... over the years  vadawg   Mar-09-10 10:32 PM   #43 
                 - Private Or Government, Sir?  The Magistrate   Mar-09-10 10:33 PM   #44 
                    - both private and government  vadawg   Mar-09-10 10:38 PM   #49 
                       - In What Order, Sir?  The Magistrate   Mar-09-10 10:41 PM   #52 
                          - not sure what you are asking, but we have had various companies through our private sector jobs  vadawg   Mar-09-10 10:44 PM   #55 
                             - Sooner Or Later, Sir, You Will Need To Get Specific  The Magistrate   Mar-09-10 10:50 PM   #58 
                                - well if you would drop the sir crap and explain what it is you actually are asking that might help  vadawg   Mar-09-10 10:53 PM   #60 
                                   - You Have Stated A Preference, Sir  The Magistrate   Mar-09-10 10:57 PM   #63 
                                      - simple, i much prefer the service i get in the US system than i have seen in the NHS  vadawg   Mar-09-10 11:02 PM   #66 
                                         - So You Have Been Ill In England, Sir?  The Magistrate   Mar-09-10 11:04 PM   #67 
                                            - yes n/t  vadawg   Mar-09-10 11:09 PM   #68 
                                            - When, Sir, And With What? Travelling For Business, Or Pleasure?  The Magistrate   Mar-09-10 11:10 PM   #69 
                                            - tell you what you put your medical history online and then i will think about putting mine  vadawg   Mar-09-10 11:19 PM   #74 
                                            - My Several Heart Attacks Are Public Record Here, Sir  The Magistrate   Mar-09-10 11:25 PM   #77 
                                            - well i wish you well, but im not going to put that kind of info out there  vadawg   Mar-09-10 11:28 PM   #79 
                                            - My scenario is a unique one and relates to both countries as well as Canada.  go west young man   Mar-10-10 12:31 AM   #88 
                                            - You would have been covered by the military in that case, either in military clinics or  juajen   Mar-10-10 11:48 PM   #112 
  - Just look at the cost of top insurance packages in the UK  TheBigotBasher   Mar-09-10 10:10 PM   #16 
  - mayby, mayby not, but i would much rather have what i have now than the NHS  vadawg   Mar-09-10 10:12 PM   #19 
     - When I needed it  TheBigotBasher   Mar-09-10 10:20 PM   #29 
     - :) so technically you did pay for it in your taxes :)  vadawg   Mar-09-10 10:23 PM   #31 
        - Of course you pay in taxes.  TheBigotBasher   Mar-09-10 10:35 PM   #46 
           - What Portion Of Tax Revenues Goes To the Service, Sir?  The Magistrate   Mar-09-10 10:40 PM   #50 
           - yo uknow that the sir thing gets really annoying, im not sure if thats why you do it  vadawg   Mar-09-10 10:42 PM   #53 
           - What Other People Think Of Me, Sir, Is None Of My Damn Business  The Magistrate   Mar-09-10 10:55 PM   #61 
              - and yet some people can see what they are paying for is worth it  vadawg   Mar-09-10 11:11 PM   #70 
                 - That Belief, Sir, Is What Marketting Runs On  The Magistrate   Mar-09-10 11:13 PM   #71 
                    - and yet we have the reality that paying for a service can be worth it regardless of what you say  vadawg   Mar-09-10 11:16 PM   #72 
                       - The Most Important Thing, Sir  The Magistrate   Mar-09-10 11:19 PM   #73 
                          - and yet you still pay money for stuff even with this knowledge, well more fool you  vadawg   Mar-09-10 11:20 PM   #75 
                             - Ah, My Dear Sir, You Make The Sound Of Lawful Prey Reaching For Its Wallet....  The Magistrate   Mar-09-10 11:33 PM   #81 
                                - ah the ability to say nothing but make it sound like you are making love to a sheep  vadawg   Mar-09-10 11:35 PM   #82 
                                   - The Unguarded Word, Sir, Is The Window To The Soul....  The Magistrate   Mar-09-10 11:38 PM   #83 
                                   - not a furry, but i do like and appreciate sheep, a noble animal  vadawg   Mar-09-10 11:40 PM   #84 
                                   - Doubtless You Can Learn Much From A Passel Of Sheep, Sir....  The Magistrate   Mar-09-10 11:49 PM   #85 
           - A non-scientific survey for you  nxylas   Mar-10-10 05:54 AM   #91 
              - That Sounds About Right, Sir  The Magistrate   Mar-10-10 10:40 AM   #100 
           - not disagreeing, just saying that i would rather have what i have now than the NHS  vadawg   Mar-09-10 10:40 PM   #51 
              - In the UK you would have BUPA and the NHS.  TheBigotBasher   Mar-09-10 11:01 PM   #65 
                 - yup, and i know for a fact my wife would want BUPA in a heartbeat  vadawg   Mar-09-10 11:23 PM   #76 
     - Your right-wing political ideology is so sacred to you that you would forgo better service for less  Maru Kitteh   Mar-10-10 01:00 AM   #90 
     - I admit that I expected no truthful answer from you. I commend you for exercising honorable silence  Maru Kitteh   Mar-11-10 01:22 AM   #113 
  - On the whole, I have no problem with the service I am given vis a vis my health insurance.  Doremus   Mar-09-10 10:19 PM   #27 
  - Enough bullshit. Go to the damn WHO site where they have the stats. We are **16th**  Go2Peace   Mar-09-10 10:36 PM   #47 
     - no its someone with firsthand experience saying that they are happy with the service they get  vadawg   Mar-09-10 10:48 PM   #57 
        - Ah yes, New Orleans is flooding but I live on a hill so nothing is wrong  Go2Peace   Mar-10-10 12:42 AM   #89 
  - Indeed.  TheBigotBasher   Mar-09-10 10:03 PM   #11 
     - And you can be a freelance employee because you don't have to tie  dflprincess   Mar-09-10 10:34 PM   #45 
        - It is not the best of times to be freelance at the moment  TheBigotBasher   Mar-09-10 10:38 PM   #48 
        - They are so far ahead of us in total care  laughingliberal   Mar-09-10 10:55 PM   #62 
           - In Portland, I knew an English woman whose mother still lived back  Lydia Leftcoast   Mar-10-10 12:28 PM   #104 
  - The only time healthcare doesn't suck in the US is when you are wealthy enough  kestrel91316   Mar-09-10 10:18 PM   #23 
  - I have insurance and it ain't better. i can't go to the doctor because I can't afford the co-pay, ..  madmom   Mar-09-10 11:58 PM   #87 
  - I have lived in England, France, Germany, Austria and the U.S.  JDPriestly   Mar-10-10 09:56 AM   #98 
  - "But..but....but the black peoplz and minortys will free load off da socalizm....  Joe the Liberal   Mar-09-10 09:56 PM   #7 
  - That's really the heart of the matter, isn't it?  Lydia Leftcoast   Mar-10-10 10:12 AM   #99 
  - Congrats  Juche   Mar-09-10 10:05 PM   #12 
  - I got great care under the socialized medical system in the US Navy.  Hello_Kitty   Mar-09-10 11:26 PM   #78 
  - rofl what a going away present, some day im going to have to touch base with the VA  vadawg   Mar-09-10 11:31 PM   #80 
  - K&R  Cleita   Mar-09-10 11:57 PM   #86 
  - I agree with your statement:  midnight   Mar-10-10 07:20 AM   #93 
  - Isn't is amazing  Tsiyu   Mar-10-10 08:01 AM   #95 
  - To fully realize how BAD the current HCR is....  bvar22   Mar-10-10 12:27 PM   #103 
  - .simply compare it to what is taken for granted in every other civilized country in The World!  Mimosa   Mar-10-10 03:22 PM   #110 
  - My, how sane. We need to get your show on the road in America!  puebloknot   Mar-10-10 01:08 PM   #105 
  - I recently had to lay on a "trolley"  penndragon69   Mar-10-10 02:32 PM   #107 
  - As a tourist in London, I had what could have been a serious eye problem  emsimon33   Mar-10-10 02:49 PM   #108 
  - I've been on all sides of this fence. If you have good insurance,  Paper Roses   Mar-10-10 03:08 PM   #109 
 

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