vadawg
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Tue Mar-09-10 08:58 PM
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| 19. no thats my upbringing in the real world, people compete |
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do you really believe that education should be about getting everyone to the same standard, or should we help those who excel reach for the stars, should we reward those teachers who can get their students to reach the highest levels, yes education should be about getting students to compete, they should always be looking to better themselves. Seems one of the big problems in the system is that people are happy just to attain mediocracy...
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| -How many high income public schools have been labeled "failures"? |
Karmadillo |
Mar-09-10 06:36 PM |
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It's yet another extension of the class war. n/t |
tonysam |
Mar-09-10 06:38 PM |
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Disgusting! |
mediaman007 |
Mar-09-10 06:47 PM |
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Why is it |
quaker bill |
Mar-09-10 06:50 PM |
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Their "failing schools" are defined by statistics that would baffle and |
mediaman007 |
Mar-09-10 07:06 PM |
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no i think a good sign of failure is when you have whole classes that cant read or write by the time |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 07:12 PM |
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That can be dealt with without the charades called "No Child Left Behind" and |
mediaman007 |
Mar-09-10 08:19 PM |
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but what do you suggest happen to a school were everyone is failing |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 08:27 PM |
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Are you suggesting that the parents of students who haven't learned anything |
mediaman007 |
Mar-09-10 08:56 PM |
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not all teachers, but just like other jobs if you dont get results then you get canned |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 09:02 PM |
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In your world its so easy: "separate them out" |
mediaman007 |
Mar-09-10 09:10 PM |
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but the problem is that do you have the kids who are passing the tests penalised |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 09:15 PM |
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You are correct. But at this time, the misbehaving students, the |
mediaman007 |
Mar-09-10 09:26 PM |
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The fish rots from the head. |
bemildred |
Mar-09-10 08:58 PM |
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so you are telling me that no teachers have any responsibility |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 09:04 PM |
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No, I said authority and blame go together. |
bemildred |
Mar-09-10 09:10 PM |
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okay so give the reins to the local level and let the parents be the bosses |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 09:17 PM |
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I'm OK with that. |
bemildred |
Mar-09-10 09:26 PM |
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I do get it |
quaker bill |
Mar-09-10 07:28 PM |
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Schools are not businesses |
alarimer |
Mar-09-10 10:34 PM |
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Because every gud muriken knows that competition (especially violent competition) is always the best |
Greyhound |
Mar-09-10 11:51 PM |
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Arne and Obama won't be there in 5 or 6 if they keep it up. This teacher will make sure of that. |
Orlandodem |
Mar-09-10 06:56 PM |
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I'm with you. |
Catshrink |
Mar-09-10 07:34 PM |
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What do you mean by "high income"? |
harkadog |
Mar-09-10 07:33 PM |
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several wealthy suburban districts in illinois have opted out. |
madrchsod |
Mar-09-10 07:52 PM |
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How does a school make high income? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-09-10 08:12 PM |
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Percentage of students on free and reduced lunch. |
rucky |
Mar-10-10 05:43 AM |
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I find the "competition" part disturbing. |
Odin2005 |
Mar-09-10 08:35 PM |
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thing is that life is competition, our students should be competing with each other and themselves |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 08:41 PM |
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That's just your upbrining in a Capitalist society talking |
Odin2005 |
Mar-09-10 08:53 PM |
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no thats my upbringing in the real world, people compete |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 08:58 PM |
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high goals & high standards aren't synonymous with competition. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-10-10 12:59 AM |
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if you have goals then you are by definition competing with yourself |
vadawg |
Mar-10-10 05:00 AM |
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if i decide to study french, i'm "competing with myself & others?" |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-10-10 05:07 AM |
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Life is competition only if you are an animal. |
The Midway Rebel |
Mar-09-10 10:20 PM |
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if you dont think as humans that we need to compete whether against ourselves or others |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 10:31 PM |
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What you see is what you get. |
The Midway Rebel |
Mar-09-10 10:42 PM |
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no idea what the hell that is, but see you do compete even if its just against yourself |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 11:26 PM |
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Polite euphemism for being one of the "screws". |
The Midway Rebel |
Mar-09-10 11:42 PM |
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no im a deputy not a prison guard.. now your answer tells me a lot |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 11:45 PM |
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I tell kids that it is OK not to behave like an animal. |
The Midway Rebel |
Mar-10-10 12:05 AM |
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and yet they will still compete as they are hard wired to do |
vadawg |
Mar-10-10 12:23 AM |
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You are welcome! n/t |
The Midway Rebel |
Mar-10-10 12:26 AM |
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Well, that was the object of the exercise, to make public schools "failures". |
bemildred |
Mar-09-10 08:55 PM |
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NO ONE wants to look at the real problem: poverty |
RainDog |
Mar-09-10 09:29 PM |
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+1 |
The Midway Rebel |
Mar-09-10 10:29 PM |
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Repukes always claim you "can't solve a problem by throwing money at it" |
Zoeisright |
Mar-09-10 11:13 PM |
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