vadawg
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Tue Mar-09-10 07:12 PM
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| 6. no i think a good sign of failure is when you have whole classes that cant read or write by the time |
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they graduate, regardless of the reasons i would say thats a failure, wouldnt you.
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| -How many high income public schools have been labeled "failures"? |
Karmadillo |
Mar-09-10 06:36 PM |
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It's yet another extension of the class war. n/t |
tonysam |
Mar-09-10 06:38 PM |
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Disgusting! |
mediaman007 |
Mar-09-10 06:47 PM |
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Why is it |
quaker bill |
Mar-09-10 06:50 PM |
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Their "failing schools" are defined by statistics that would baffle and |
mediaman007 |
Mar-09-10 07:06 PM |
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no i think a good sign of failure is when you have whole classes that cant read or write by the time |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 07:12 PM |
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That can be dealt with without the charades called "No Child Left Behind" and |
mediaman007 |
Mar-09-10 08:19 PM |
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but what do you suggest happen to a school were everyone is failing |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 08:27 PM |
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Are you suggesting that the parents of students who haven't learned anything |
mediaman007 |
Mar-09-10 08:56 PM |
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not all teachers, but just like other jobs if you dont get results then you get canned |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 09:02 PM |
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In your world its so easy: "separate them out" |
mediaman007 |
Mar-09-10 09:10 PM |
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but the problem is that do you have the kids who are passing the tests penalised |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 09:15 PM |
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You are correct. But at this time, the misbehaving students, the |
mediaman007 |
Mar-09-10 09:26 PM |
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The fish rots from the head. |
bemildred |
Mar-09-10 08:58 PM |
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so you are telling me that no teachers have any responsibility |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 09:04 PM |
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No, I said authority and blame go together. |
bemildred |
Mar-09-10 09:10 PM |
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okay so give the reins to the local level and let the parents be the bosses |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 09:17 PM |
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I'm OK with that. |
bemildred |
Mar-09-10 09:26 PM |
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I do get it |
quaker bill |
Mar-09-10 07:28 PM |
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Schools are not businesses |
alarimer |
Mar-09-10 10:34 PM |
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Because every gud muriken knows that competition (especially violent competition) is always the best |
Greyhound |
Mar-09-10 11:51 PM |
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Arne and Obama won't be there in 5 or 6 if they keep it up. This teacher will make sure of that. |
Orlandodem |
Mar-09-10 06:56 PM |
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I'm with you. |
Catshrink |
Mar-09-10 07:34 PM |
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What do you mean by "high income"? |
harkadog |
Mar-09-10 07:33 PM |
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several wealthy suburban districts in illinois have opted out. |
madrchsod |
Mar-09-10 07:52 PM |
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How does a school make high income? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-09-10 08:12 PM |
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Percentage of students on free and reduced lunch. |
rucky |
Mar-10-10 05:43 AM |
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I find the "competition" part disturbing. |
Odin2005 |
Mar-09-10 08:35 PM |
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thing is that life is competition, our students should be competing with each other and themselves |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 08:41 PM |
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That's just your upbrining in a Capitalist society talking |
Odin2005 |
Mar-09-10 08:53 PM |
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no thats my upbringing in the real world, people compete |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 08:58 PM |
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high goals & high standards aren't synonymous with competition. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-10-10 12:59 AM |
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if you have goals then you are by definition competing with yourself |
vadawg |
Mar-10-10 05:00 AM |
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if i decide to study french, i'm "competing with myself & others?" |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-10-10 05:07 AM |
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Life is competition only if you are an animal. |
The Midway Rebel |
Mar-09-10 10:20 PM |
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if you dont think as humans that we need to compete whether against ourselves or others |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 10:31 PM |
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What you see is what you get. |
The Midway Rebel |
Mar-09-10 10:42 PM |
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no idea what the hell that is, but see you do compete even if its just against yourself |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 11:26 PM |
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Polite euphemism for being one of the "screws". |
The Midway Rebel |
Mar-09-10 11:42 PM |
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no im a deputy not a prison guard.. now your answer tells me a lot |
vadawg |
Mar-09-10 11:45 PM |
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I tell kids that it is OK not to behave like an animal. |
The Midway Rebel |
Mar-10-10 12:05 AM |
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and yet they will still compete as they are hard wired to do |
vadawg |
Mar-10-10 12:23 AM |
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You are welcome! n/t |
The Midway Rebel |
Mar-10-10 12:26 AM |
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Well, that was the object of the exercise, to make public schools "failures". |
bemildred |
Mar-09-10 08:55 PM |
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NO ONE wants to look at the real problem: poverty |
RainDog |
Mar-09-10 09:29 PM |
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+1 |
The Midway Rebel |
Mar-09-10 10:29 PM |
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Repukes always claim you "can't solve a problem by throwing money at it" |
Zoeisright |
Mar-09-10 11:13 PM |
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