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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 01:16 AM
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56. +1
Even though I'm not terribly fond of the bill.

My biggest concern is that the insurance companies will take the money people are mandated to hand them then just deny all their claims or cancel your plan over a trivial error the second you get sick. Both of which they're perfectly willing to do because they're doing them right now.
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  -I won't be able to afford Health Care if rates keep going up. berni_mccoy  Mar-07-10 09:19 AM   #0 
  - I am getting squeezed too  NNN0LHI   Mar-07-10 09:24 AM   #1 
  - Health care and health insurance are not the same things.  Marr   Mar-07-10 09:34 AM   #2 
  - They are to people with chronic disease. If I can't afford insurance, I can't affor health care.  berni_mccoy   Mar-07-10 10:06 AM   #5 
  - Health insurance is necessary to have health care in this country.  BzaDem   Mar-07-10 10:10 AM   #6 
     - There never was a war. That's the point.  Marr   Mar-07-10 10:34 AM   #12 
        - Yes, there was. Kennedy had fought for it for many years.  berni_mccoy   Mar-07-10 10:42 AM   #17 
  - California basically gave up on holding big health insurance companies to the law..  Fumesucker   Mar-07-10 09:42 AM   #3 
  - California has hardly been the best example of regulatory enforcement  berni_mccoy   Mar-07-10 10:25 AM   #7 
     - It is impossible to make anything foolproof..  Fumesucker   Mar-07-10 10:29 AM   #9 
     - And to whom does the Senate Bill leave enforcement? Oh yeah, the states. eom  Hello_Kitty   Mar-07-10 09:04 PM   #54 
  - I have a small business with a medical plan  nevergiveup   Mar-07-10 09:49 AM   #4 
  - See if your state has a plan for your employees and if they'd qualify. NY has a plan but I don't  KittyWampus   Mar-07-10 10:31 AM   #10 
  - We are contemplating what to do about the 17% monthly increase in rates.  KittyWampus   Mar-07-10 10:27 AM   #8 
  - I haven't been able to afford it since 1994, so unless these  Better Today   Mar-07-10 10:33 AM   #11 
  - Well, depending on your income,  berni_mccoy   Mar-07-10 10:47 AM   #18 
  - Nothing in the bill will keep the rates from going up.  alarimer   Mar-07-10 10:37 AM   #13 
  - The CBO's facts disagree with your opinion.  berni_mccoy   Mar-07-10 10:39 AM   #15 
  - We are being pushed between the lack of a health care bill and the  jwirr   Mar-07-10 10:39 AM   #14 
  - Unfortunately, I wouldn't qualify for medicare.  berni_mccoy   Mar-07-10 10:41 AM   #16 
     - Not Medicare - Medicaid. My suggestion was meant to give the  jwirr   Mar-07-10 10:48 AM   #19 
     - Sorry, that's what I meant.  berni_mccoy   Mar-07-10 10:48 AM   #21 
     - dupe  eShirl   Mar-07-10 10:48 AM   #22 
  - and you won't get an iota of help for the next four years even if this plan is passed tommorrow!  flyarm   Mar-07-10 10:48 AM   #20 
  - That's absolutely 100% incorrect and you know it.  berni_mccoy   Mar-07-10 10:52 AM   #23 
     - Then Kathleen Sebelius is a liar ..is that what you are saying? because she was on TV this morn  flyarm   Mar-07-10 11:12 AM   #26 
        - I didn't see her talk, but "Most" does not equal "All" or even "Most Important"  berni_mccoy   Mar-07-10 11:15 AM   #28 
  - A $70 Billion Dollar Give away to the Health Insur. Monopoly or  SlingBlade   Mar-07-10 11:02 AM   #24 
  - Thanks for telling the sick to die. It's Single-Payer-Or-Die right?  berni_mccoy   Mar-07-10 11:05 AM   #25 
     - Those are NOT my terms Berni. Pay Attention. Please.  SlingBlade   Mar-07-10 11:23 AM   #30 
     - Sorry, there are far too many people here calling for "Kill-The-Bill". This is simply unacceptable.  berni_mccoy   Mar-07-10 11:36 AM   #32 
        - Two points Bernie  Vinnie From Indy   Mar-07-10 11:44 AM   #33 
        - If you don't understand how this bill will help me from reading this post  berni_mccoy   Mar-07-10 11:57 AM   #34 
        - getting the same coverage choices as federal employees  KILL THE WISE ONE   Mar-07-10 01:20 PM   #39 
        - I have medical problems too Bernie. But I will NEVER accept  SlingBlade   Mar-07-10 11:58 AM   #35 
           - How are you paying for your insurance? Employer provided? Federal plan? Medicare?  berni_mccoy   Mar-07-10 12:04 PM   #36 
           - so then you choose to have nothing VS a GOOD START  KILL THE WISE ONE   Mar-07-10 01:21 PM   #40 
              - First off, What is a good start ?  SlingBlade   Mar-07-10 02:18 PM   #45 
                 - getting the same choices as a federal employee at group rates  KILL THE WISE ONE   Mar-07-10 02:29 PM   #46 
                    - Couldn't agree more, But that is not on the table, Is it ?  SlingBlade   Mar-07-10 02:43 PM   #47 
                       - that is the senate plan as i read it  KILL THE WISE ONE   Mar-07-10 02:50 PM   #48 
     - As citizens we need to come up with ideas....  chowder66   Mar-07-10 11:23 AM   #31 
     - well you could try to start a MUTUAL fund  KILL THE WISE ONE   Mar-07-10 01:23 PM   #41 
     - Where on earth did you come up with the delusion that you will get your claims paid?  eridani   Mar-07-10 08:27 PM   #52 
        - Posting here to amplify your point. Who says they'll pay?  riderinthestorm   Mar-07-10 09:20 PM   #55 
  - Just a heads up--The video you linked is blocked.  Feron   Mar-07-10 11:13 AM   #27 
  - Are you at work? Link works for me.  berni_mccoy   Mar-07-10 11:16 AM   #29 
     - It does't work for me either, and I'm at home.  inna   Mar-07-10 01:17 PM   #38 
     - I'm at home and I've tried two different browsers.  Feron   Mar-07-10 01:48 PM   #44 
        - It looks like it's been blocked, even though I asked permission to use the song  berni_mccoy   Mar-07-10 04:16 PM   #50 
  - K&R  NJmaverick   Mar-07-10 12:55 PM   #37 
  - It's better than nothing but structurally flawed for the long term.  mmonk   Mar-07-10 01:28 PM   #42 
  - 23 million people will be left uninsured.  ipaint   Mar-07-10 01:36 PM   #43 
  - Of that 23 million...  berni_mccoy   Mar-07-10 03:44 PM   #49 
  - The lower classes are in a depression. Folks 50 and above who are  ipaint   Mar-07-10 08:32 PM   #53 
  - that would make for one hell of a march on washington.  dysfunctional press   Mar-08-10 02:25 AM   #57 
  - Anyone who thinks this bill is going to help anyone before 2014 (fi then)  eridani   Mar-07-10 08:24 PM   #51 
  - it's going to help the insurance company executives right away.  dysfunctional press   Mar-08-10 02:26 AM   #58 
     - Guess I should have specified normal people who aren't sociopaths n/t  eridani   Mar-08-10 04:07 AM   #60 
  - +1  JoeyT   Mar-08-10 01:16 AM   #56 
  - I'd like to think it will work out, for your sake.  girl gone mad   Mar-08-10 03:46 AM   #59 
 

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