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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 06:29 AM
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91. not at all. but i note the quick resort to ad hom, always the sign of someone who can't argue his
Edited on Sun Mar-07-10 06:59 AM by Hannah Bell
point.

i asked you some specific questions. you didn't answer them.

you didn't provide the source for your "100 million" figure, for starters.



"How many of them will be worked to death? Herded into mass graves?"

i see. so freedom exists unless the prisoners are on a chain gang or shot. then you don't know the history of who actually built this country, do you?

because it was built by conscripted & slave labor. who were, in fact, worked to death, murdered, & buried in mass graves.

and still we have....e.g.

1/13 in georgia imprisoned, on probation & on parole.



Meanwhile, capitalism spreads its "freedom" to the world:

In September of 2005, 15 workers from six different countries, United States, China, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Nicaragua and Swaziland, filed a lawsuit against Wal-Mart, claiming that the company isn't doing anything to correct the sweatshop like conditions most of its factories are being run under. The lawsuit states, "Based on its vast economic power, Wal-Mart, based on its code of conduct, can and does control the working conditions of its supplier factories. It could use its power and position to prevent its producers from profiting from the inhumane treatment of ". The complaint focuses on the terrible stories of 16 different factory workers. One talks about how she was locked in the factory and forced to work every single day for six months. Another speaks of how she was brutally beaten because she didn't meet her outrageously high quota. One plaintiff, from Swaziland, claims that he had to labor for 16 hours straight in a factory where they locked the doors to ensure that no one left. In response to this lawsuit, Wal-Mart declared that they are doing everything they can "to verify that factories are in compliance with labor laws," but realistically violations are going to occur.

Even more disturbing than the human rights violations adults have been subject to, is the sickening way children have been treated in Wal-Mart factories for years. In Bangladesh, children between the ages of nine and twelve are paid five cents an hour and forced to work past midnight making Wal-Mart clothes. In Honduras, it was discovered that children ages thirteen, fourteen, and fifteen were working for thirteen hours a day, twenty-five cents an hour, sewing twenty-dollar jeans. These children had restricted bathroom breaks and were beaten for their mistakes. So why aren't these types of facilities being immediately shut down? Because no one knows where these factories are located. Wal-Mart feels that the locations of its factories are at their disclosure. And so, behind barbed wire and metal gates, these children slave away. In Wal-Mart's official statement concerning sweatshops, the company said, "Wal-Mart strives to do business only with factories run legally and ethically". Certainly, the way these children are being used as slaves cannot be called by any means "ethical."

http://ihscslnews.org/view_article.php?id=68


I wonder how many are worked to death?

interesting how walmart can verify the specifications of its goods down to the last inch of thread -- but oooh, it's *hard* to keep 10-year-olds out of the factories it contracts with.






Coke Hit with New Charges of Murder, Rape, Torture at their processing and bottling plants in Guatemala
Written by Maryanne Euthalia
Thursday, 04 March 2010 20:22

A lawsuit (Case No. 10102514; Palacios et al. v. The Coca-Cola Co. and Does 1 through 10 inclusive) was filed on behalf of eight plaintiffs in the Supreme Court of the State of New York against The Coca-Cola Co. and Coke processing and bottling plants in Guatemala. This case involves charges of murder, rape and torture. The plaintiffs include union leaders and family members. This case has been brought in New York State because plaintiffs and other victims of human rights abuses lack access to an independent and functioning legal system within Guatemala, a country with a corrupt judiciary which has been undermined by the intimidation and murder of witnesses, prosecutors, lawyers and judges.

"Coca-Cola's crimes against union leaders continue. This Guatemala case shows, tragically, that Coca-Cola's Workplace Rights Policy, and its other false claims to the public about respecting the rights of workers to join unions, are nothing more than a public relations campaign designed to deceive the public," said Terry Collingsworth, lead counsel in the case.

http://www.vee2.net/business/42-business-news/4105-coke.html


i wonder how many unionists in mass graves?

unfortunately, no one's counting these people for a "black book of capitalism"








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