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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 08:50 AM
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51. The current state and massive trending in our modern America, sadly, seems to fully disprove this
apparently wishful thinking laid out in this article.

I would LIKE it to be true, but from the current state of our nation I would say that sociopaths have the evolutionary advantage and NO structure We the People can create can stop them or even slow them down at all.

Robber Barons in at the beginning of the 20th Century, reduced in power by the New Deal, now dismantled and we have Robber Barons again.

The same situation with our "Media as Watchdog".

The same for colonized nations, who broke free in that great en masse independence of the 1960s.

Recolonized by WTO, IMF and all the rest of the "economic hit men".

I WISH this article were true, but the current data suggests just the opposite.

It suggest that human beings will continue to struggle vainly against the usually fatal (to everyone else) combination of the Rich, Mean & Gullible, who are by far the largest group of the three.

We will break free now and again, in some countries, for short periods of time, but eventually the sociopaths will find a new skin in which to dress an old snake.
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  -"Do Kinder People Have an Evolutionary Advantage?" onestepforward  Mar-05-10 05:01 PM   #0 
  - What I do find remarkable - our family is quite empathetic and sensitive, in general -  NRaleighLiberal   Mar-05-10 05:05 PM   #1 
  - My parents raised me very similar to yours  onestepforward   Mar-05-10 05:35 PM   #13 
     - Thanks so much - right back at you! My wife and I are fortunate to have wonderful girls.  NRaleighLiberal   Mar-05-10 09:00 PM   #33 
     - delete - dupe post  NRaleighLiberal   Mar-05-10 09:00 PM   #34 
  - Oh, yes, industry leaders and state leaders are soooo kind. NOT. nt  valerief   Mar-05-10 05:08 PM   #2 
  - In some cases, yes  Warpy   Mar-05-10 05:10 PM   #3 
  - I agree.  onestepforward   Mar-05-10 06:19 PM   #19 
  - This is why I hate shows like Survivor.  arbusto_baboso   Mar-05-10 05:12 PM   #4 
  - absolutely  G_j   Mar-05-10 05:17 PM   #5 
  - Seconded!  knixphan   Mar-05-10 07:52 PM   #31 
  - Bingo. If anyone read a book they'd realize the tribes that survivor take its names from...  slampoet   Mar-05-10 05:31 PM   #10 
  - even that's not entirely the case.  unblock   Mar-05-10 05:34 PM   #12 
  - That's because the reward is unrealistic: only one winner.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Mar-06-10 12:54 PM   #64 
  - So are compassionate people more evolutionarily advanced?  Betsy Ross   Mar-05-10 05:18 PM   #6 
  - Of course we're more evolved. Look at us compared to Freepers.  Raschel   Mar-06-10 12:52 PM   #63 
  - That enormous WHIRRing sound is Ayn Rand  Lyric   Mar-05-10 05:19 PM   #7 
  - I thought this too.  onestepforward   Mar-05-10 05:45 PM   #16 
  - family, & thus community, generally furthers itself through cooperation and nurturing  G_j   Mar-05-10 05:26 PM   #8 
  - Good point.  onestepforward   Mar-05-10 05:39 PM   #14 
  - The problem with this theory is that one only needs to be...  followthemoney   Mar-05-10 05:29 PM   #9 
  - You are mistaken. In order to pass on the genes the child must survive into adulthood to reproduce.  slampoet   Mar-05-10 05:32 PM   #11 
     - That is what kind hearted sucker Moms and voters are for. nt  followthemoney   Mar-05-10 05:41 PM   #15 
        - Sentence context do have you?  slampoet   Mar-05-10 05:45 PM   #17 
           - If ass-holes were not evolutionary successes, there would not be  followthemoney   Mar-05-10 07:29 PM   #24 
              - and look how we are sinking. and as we wise up and quit being such assholes, betcha  seabeyond   Mar-05-10 07:34 PM   #26 
  - Wow, I love this post and hope it is true.  Mike 03   Mar-05-10 05:49 PM   #18 
  - I Disagree  NashVegas   Mar-05-10 06:35 PM   #20 
  - "the appearance of kindness is what gets you laid"  AllenVanAllen   Mar-05-10 07:08 PM   #22 
  - Yes, but there is more to your genes survival than getting laid.  Incitatus   Mar-05-10 07:17 PM   #23 
  - I took Elwood P. Dowd's advice long ago  DoBotherMe   Mar-05-10 06:41 PM   #21 
  - This is the great question, isn't it?  Canuckistanian   Mar-05-10 07:31 PM   #25 
  - Kinder people give everybody else an evolutionary advantage.nt  athenasatanjesus   Mar-05-10 07:34 PM   #27 
  - I don't buy it, kind people just get stomped on.....  Joe the Liberal   Mar-05-10 07:46 PM   #28 
  - that is such bullshit, and stupid beside that. kind does not mean doormat. i have never understood  seabeyond   Mar-05-10 07:48 PM   #30 
  - I completely disagree. I got stomped on, picked myself off, and stayed true to my nature.  NRaleighLiberal   Mar-05-10 09:01 PM   #35 
  - Because I occuppy an odd niche in motorsports  Mopar151   Mar-05-10 11:50 PM   #48 
  - Dupe. n/t  Joe the Liberal   Mar-05-10 07:48 PM   #29 
  - "successful as a species precisely because of our nurturing, altruistic and compassionate traits"  The2ndWheel   Mar-05-10 08:50 PM   #32 
  - There is a species continuing to exist, and times when it moves forward.  NRaleighLiberal   Mar-05-10 09:03 PM   #36 
  - Please define success. n/t  Cerridwen   Mar-05-10 10:28 PM   #44 
     - Success as a species  The2ndWheel   Mar-06-10 10:12 AM   #53 
  - Read anything by primatologist Frans de Waal.  Crunchy Frog   Mar-05-10 09:45 PM   #37 
  - LOL! Sub-rats then!  EFerrari   Mar-05-10 10:04 PM   #40 
  - or read "the moral animal" by robert wright  mopinko   Mar-06-10 12:05 PM   #58 
  - Well, the Reductionist world view certainly falls apart when one tries to account for altruism  KittyWampus   Mar-05-10 09:51 PM   #38 
  - There are so many kind people at the top of our socioeconomic and political systems..  Fumesucker   Mar-05-10 10:01 PM   #39 
  - What would indicate our "socioeconomic and political systems" are  Cerridwen   Mar-05-10 10:27 PM   #43 
  - Everything is "evolutionary" in that everything effects evolution..  Fumesucker   Mar-06-10 12:09 PM   #59 
  - The 1% at the top exhibit anti-social behavior.  AllenVanAllen   Mar-05-10 11:33 PM   #46 
  - Yes... that's what was meant by...  cameozalaznick   Mar-05-10 10:06 PM   #41 
  - That's the only damn way the meek are going to get anything, inherit it..  Fumesucker   Mar-06-10 12:14 PM   #61 
  - OT but perhaps fitting in this thread.  Cerridwen   Mar-05-10 10:24 PM   #42 
  - Offering & receiving kindness & hospitality is important in human relations...  bridgit   Mar-05-10 10:30 PM   #45 
  - Iterative Prisoners Dilemma Games demonstrated the utility of cooperation and occasionally cheating  aikoaiko   Mar-05-10 11:43 PM   #47 
  - There is a good documentary about this  onestepforward   Mar-06-10 12:02 AM   #49 
  - "Sympathy is indeed wired into our brains and bodies,  AllenVanAllen   Mar-06-10 12:39 AM   #50 
  - The current state and massive trending in our modern America, sadly, seems to fully disprove this  tom_paine   Mar-06-10 08:50 AM   #51 
  - current data would confirm.... the complete opposite of what you say.  seabeyond   Mar-06-10 10:18 AM   #55 
     - I think we are actually saying the exact same thing.  tom_paine   Mar-06-10 12:10 PM   #60 
  - Google "Law of Requesite Variety". Being good all the time is not good  conspirator   Mar-06-10 09:18 AM   #52 
  - but then, being at my most selfishness also is the kindness. because  seabeyond   Mar-06-10 10:19 AM   #56 
  - This makes more sense to me than the prevailing belief in America.  rucky   Mar-06-10 10:13 AM   #54 
  - Yes. I am proof of that.  Cetacea   Mar-06-10 11:24 AM   #57 
  - k  G_j   Mar-06-10 12:49 PM   #62 
  - This reminds me of a quote from the film  AllenVanAllen   Mar-06-10 02:17 PM   #65 

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