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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 03:18 PM
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37. President Obama's healthcare summit gave the Dems the political cover to
go the reconciliation route. Had the Dems skipped the summit then it would be harder to defend against the Republican's claims that the Dems ignored the will of the people and rammed through a partisan bill. By including Republican ideas the BILL is bipartisan (even if the support isn't) and all that the President has done has defeated the Republican claim that Scott Brown's election was the public's condemnation of the health care reform bill.
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  -How come Obama didn't push this hard for health care when quinnox  Mar-04-10 01:49 PM   #0 
  - Because he knew the bill was Insurance Care, not healthcare  leftstreet   Mar-04-10 01:51 PM   #1 
  - Because he wasn't going to fight for HCR until it was the bill he wanted  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 01:54 PM   #2 
  - Its hard to argue  quinnox   Mar-04-10 01:59 PM   #6 
  - Not baffling is you take into account his promises to AHIP. nt  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 02:02 PM   #10 
  - He's still not fighting for HCR  dflprincess   Mar-04-10 02:02 PM   #9 
  - Please explain to me why HC Insurance stocks took a huge hit yesterday?  tridim   Mar-04-10 02:08 PM   #14 
     - Fail. Lots of factors affect the stock market  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 02:18 PM   #19 
        - There is the key. The president wants to pass the bill before anymore Senators  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 02:29 PM   #20 
        - Their stocks dropped like a rock immediately after the President's speech.  tridim   Mar-04-10 02:39 PM   #22 
           - Correlation doesn't prove causation  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 02:48 PM   #26 
           - It stinks for the status quo and the GOP.  tridim   Mar-04-10 03:03 PM   #28 
              - No, I already understand the harm the bill does to the American people  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 03:13 PM   #31 
              - You left out the industry regulations. Again.  tridim   Mar-04-10 03:18 PM   #36 
                 - I have every clue as to what the bill does. I read it. I suspect you have not.  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 03:22 PM   #40 
                 - There are no regulations that are worth warm spit n/t  eridani   Mar-04-10 03:30 PM   #47 
                 - Gee. Do you believe those "regulations"....  bvar22   Mar-04-10 05:35 PM   #50 
                    - Nobody on DU lays it out more clearly and consistently than you.  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 08:01 PM   #56 
              - It is notthing but the worst kind of fuckover for people 50-64  eridani   Mar-04-10 03:29 PM   #46 
           - It could be because now after months of Democratic leadership  sabrina 1   Mar-04-10 04:10 PM   #49 
              - +1 nt  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 08:03 PM   #57 
  - +1  Echo In Light   Mar-04-10 02:13 PM   #17 
  - Honestly, I think the WH wanted it to become do or die  DJ13   Mar-04-10 01:57 PM   #3 
  - Exactly!! everyone read his reply  barbiegeek   Mar-04-10 03:22 PM   #39 
  - He had to wait for the lobbyists to tell him what they wanted in the final bill  proud2BlibKansan   Mar-04-10 01:57 PM   #4 
  - He now knows he fucked it up and is deperate  Kurt_and_Hunter   Mar-04-10 01:58 PM   #5 
  - I'm still of the mind that Feingold was correct when he said this was the bil the President always  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 02:04 PM   #11 
  - +1  DrDan   Mar-04-10 02:11 PM   #15 
  - Yes. He is desperate.  rrwcf   Mar-04-10 02:12 PM   #16 
     - Welcome  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 02:35 PM   #21 
        - Thanks!  rrwcf   Mar-04-10 03:21 PM   #38 
  - I honestly think he was so scared off by what happened with the Clinton bill,  napi21   Mar-04-10 02:00 PM   #7 
  - Great. Just what we need, a scared President. nt  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 06:09 PM   #55 
  - It is curious that he never felt the need to act before.  dflprincess   Mar-04-10 02:01 PM   #8 
  - When there were 60 votes they didn't need his help  NJmaverick   Mar-04-10 02:04 PM   #12 
  - So you are saying he didnt help because 60 votes is a big enough margin to not worry?  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 02:40 PM   #24 
     - Or, when, early on they had only 58? nt  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 02:50 PM   #27 
     - Had Ted's seat stayed in Democratic hands health care would already been passed  NJmaverick   Mar-04-10 03:04 PM   #30 
        - Please explain. The help we need is to reconcile the HOR bill and the Senate bill.  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 03:14 PM   #32 
           - President Obama's healthcare summit gave the Dems the political cover to  NJmaverick   Mar-04-10 03:18 PM   #37 
           - "political cover", "harder to defend against", are you serious?  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 05:56 PM   #52 
           - Are you insane? Did you sleep though all of yesterday?  tridim   Mar-04-10 03:29 PM   #45 
              - I see that any kind of dialog with you is useless. Good bye. nt  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 05:49 PM   #51 
  - Good question  AllentownJake   Mar-04-10 02:06 PM   #13 
  - Well, because you weren't paying attention...  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-04-10 02:17 PM   #18 
  - Good grief. Interesting that some of his supporters in here  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 02:39 PM   #23 
  - Strongly supported=Mentioned it a couple of times and called it a sliver. nt  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 08:06 PM   #58 
  - I never saw him push all that hard for a PO. NT  cameozalaznick   Mar-04-10 10:53 PM   #66 
  - He is in a hurry now to get a bill passed w/o the PO. The 35th Senator just signed on  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 02:42 PM   #25 
  - In your opinion.  tridim   Mar-04-10 03:04 PM   #29 
     - Can you show me anything to suggest that the president supports the PO? nt  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 03:14 PM   #34 
        - He has said he supports a PO hundreds of times.  tridim   Mar-04-10 03:24 PM   #42 
           - Last I saw he was saying he never even campaigned on it  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 03:28 PM   #44 
           - I guess a strong PO isnt definitive enough. He may support the "exchange"  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 03:41 PM   #48 
           - Hundreds of times? I reviewed your links and found that the closest the President  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 06:02 PM   #53 
              - But he mentioned it in a couple of speeches and he called it a sliver  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 08:07 PM   #59 
  - Because Presidents are not allowed to present legislation. Only Congress can do that.  Bluebear   Mar-04-10 03:14 PM   #33 
  - Because they didn't really have a 60-vote majority.  damntexdem   Mar-04-10 03:15 PM   #35 
  - so tuck nuts and cluck?  upi402   Mar-04-10 03:24 PM   #41 
  - I think it was because he took about ...  gleaner   Mar-04-10 03:28 PM   #43 
  - Probably because he expected Congress to do it's job. Remember, the angry republican  berni_mccoy   Mar-04-10 06:07 PM   #54 
  - As I recall, the President had nothing but praise for the good work Baucus' committee was doing  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 08:11 PM   #60 
     - That's not exactly true. He praised him until Summer came and went. Then there was some  berni_mccoy   Mar-04-10 10:26 PM   #63 
        - Nevertheless, it was clear to me he was much more enthusiastic about Baucus' bill  laughingliberal   Mar-05-10 01:16 AM   #70 
  - The Insurance Industry was made certain assurances at the beginning of the process  DefenseLawyer   Mar-04-10 08:15 PM   #61 
  - Yeah, a little denial goes a long way around here. nt  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 09:29 PM   #62 
  - Because he didn't need to?  ProSense   Mar-04-10 10:38 PM   #64 
  - I believe you are serious. The president didnt support the PO because he didnt need to?  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 11:13 PM   #67 
     - "THE BILL IS A PIECE OF CRAP" There are some  ProSense   Mar-04-10 11:21 PM   #68 
        - That's it? That's what you got? No PO but a requirement for insurance companies to use  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 11:52 PM   #69 
  - Because the midterms are closer now  TransitJohn   Mar-04-10 10:41 PM   #65 
  - nodding  Bluebear   Mar-05-10 04:59 AM   #71 
  - And, before August, 72% of Americans favored HCR!  DailyGrind51   Mar-05-10 05:54 AM   #72 
 

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