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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 02:11 PM
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  -How come Obama didn't push this hard for health care when quinnox  Mar-04-10 01:49 PM   #0 
  - Because he knew the bill was Insurance Care, not healthcare  leftstreet   Mar-04-10 01:51 PM   #1 
  - Because he wasn't going to fight for HCR until it was the bill he wanted  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 01:54 PM   #2 
  - Its hard to argue  quinnox   Mar-04-10 01:59 PM   #6 
  - Not baffling is you take into account his promises to AHIP. nt  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 02:02 PM   #10 
  - He's still not fighting for HCR  dflprincess   Mar-04-10 02:02 PM   #9 
  - Please explain to me why HC Insurance stocks took a huge hit yesterday?  tridim   Mar-04-10 02:08 PM   #14 
     - Fail. Lots of factors affect the stock market  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 02:18 PM   #19 
        - There is the key. The president wants to pass the bill before anymore Senators  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 02:29 PM   #20 
        - Their stocks dropped like a rock immediately after the President's speech.  tridim   Mar-04-10 02:39 PM   #22 
           - Correlation doesn't prove causation  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 02:48 PM   #26 
           - It stinks for the status quo and the GOP.  tridim   Mar-04-10 03:03 PM   #28 
              - No, I already understand the harm the bill does to the American people  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 03:13 PM   #31 
              - You left out the industry regulations. Again.  tridim   Mar-04-10 03:18 PM   #36 
                 - I have every clue as to what the bill does. I read it. I suspect you have not.  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 03:22 PM   #40 
                 - There are no regulations that are worth warm spit n/t  eridani   Mar-04-10 03:30 PM   #47 
                 - Gee. Do you believe those "regulations"....  bvar22   Mar-04-10 05:35 PM   #50 
                    - Nobody on DU lays it out more clearly and consistently than you.  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 08:01 PM   #56 
              - It is notthing but the worst kind of fuckover for people 50-64  eridani   Mar-04-10 03:29 PM   #46 
           - It could be because now after months of Democratic leadership  sabrina 1   Mar-04-10 04:10 PM   #49 
              - +1 nt  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 08:03 PM   #57 
  - +1  Echo In Light   Mar-04-10 02:13 PM   #17 
  - Honestly, I think the WH wanted it to become do or die  DJ13   Mar-04-10 01:57 PM   #3 
  - Exactly!! everyone read his reply  barbiegeek   Mar-04-10 03:22 PM   #39 
  - He had to wait for the lobbyists to tell him what they wanted in the final bill  proud2BlibKansan   Mar-04-10 01:57 PM   #4 
  - He now knows he fucked it up and is deperate  Kurt_and_Hunter   Mar-04-10 01:58 PM   #5 
  - I'm still of the mind that Feingold was correct when he said this was the bil the President always  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 02:04 PM   #11 
  - +1  DrDan   Mar-04-10 02:11 PM   #15 
  - Yes. He is desperate.  rrwcf   Mar-04-10 02:12 PM   #16 
     - Welcome  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 02:35 PM   #21 
        - Thanks!  rrwcf   Mar-04-10 03:21 PM   #38 
  - I honestly think he was so scared off by what happened with the Clinton bill,  napi21   Mar-04-10 02:00 PM   #7 
  - Great. Just what we need, a scared President. nt  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 06:09 PM   #55 
  - It is curious that he never felt the need to act before.  dflprincess   Mar-04-10 02:01 PM   #8 
  - When there were 60 votes they didn't need his help  NJmaverick   Mar-04-10 02:04 PM   #12 
  - So you are saying he didnt help because 60 votes is a big enough margin to not worry?  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 02:40 PM   #24 
     - Or, when, early on they had only 58? nt  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 02:50 PM   #27 
     - Had Ted's seat stayed in Democratic hands health care would already been passed  NJmaverick   Mar-04-10 03:04 PM   #30 
        - Please explain. The help we need is to reconcile the HOR bill and the Senate bill.  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 03:14 PM   #32 
           - President Obama's healthcare summit gave the Dems the political cover to  NJmaverick   Mar-04-10 03:18 PM   #37 
           - "political cover", "harder to defend against", are you serious?  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 05:56 PM   #52 
           - Are you insane? Did you sleep though all of yesterday?  tridim   Mar-04-10 03:29 PM   #45 
              - I see that any kind of dialog with you is useless. Good bye. nt  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 05:49 PM   #51 
  - Good question  AllentownJake   Mar-04-10 02:06 PM   #13 
  - Well, because you weren't paying attention...  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-04-10 02:17 PM   #18 
  - Good grief. Interesting that some of his supporters in here  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 02:39 PM   #23 
  - Strongly supported=Mentioned it a couple of times and called it a sliver. nt  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 08:06 PM   #58 
  - I never saw him push all that hard for a PO. NT  cameozalaznick   Mar-04-10 10:53 PM   #66 
  - He is in a hurry now to get a bill passed w/o the PO. The 35th Senator just signed on  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 02:42 PM   #25 
  - In your opinion.  tridim   Mar-04-10 03:04 PM   #29 
     - Can you show me anything to suggest that the president supports the PO? nt  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 03:14 PM   #34 
        - He has said he supports a PO hundreds of times.  tridim   Mar-04-10 03:24 PM   #42 
           - Last I saw he was saying he never even campaigned on it  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 03:28 PM   #44 
           - I guess a strong PO isnt definitive enough. He may support the "exchange"  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 03:41 PM   #48 
           - Hundreds of times? I reviewed your links and found that the closest the President  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 06:02 PM   #53 
              - But he mentioned it in a couple of speeches and he called it a sliver  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 08:07 PM   #59 
  - Because Presidents are not allowed to present legislation. Only Congress can do that.  Bluebear   Mar-04-10 03:14 PM   #33 
  - Because they didn't really have a 60-vote majority.  damntexdem   Mar-04-10 03:15 PM   #35 
  - so tuck nuts and cluck?  upi402   Mar-04-10 03:24 PM   #41 
  - I think it was because he took about ...  gleaner   Mar-04-10 03:28 PM   #43 
  - Probably because he expected Congress to do it's job. Remember, the angry republican  berni_mccoy   Mar-04-10 06:07 PM   #54 
  - As I recall, the President had nothing but praise for the good work Baucus' committee was doing  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 08:11 PM   #60 
     - That's not exactly true. He praised him until Summer came and went. Then there was some  berni_mccoy   Mar-04-10 10:26 PM   #63 
        - Nevertheless, it was clear to me he was much more enthusiastic about Baucus' bill  laughingliberal   Mar-05-10 01:16 AM   #70 
  - The Insurance Industry was made certain assurances at the beginning of the process  DefenseLawyer   Mar-04-10 08:15 PM   #61 
  - Yeah, a little denial goes a long way around here. nt  laughingliberal   Mar-04-10 09:29 PM   #62 
  - Because he didn't need to?  ProSense   Mar-04-10 10:38 PM   #64 
  - I believe you are serious. The president didnt support the PO because he didnt need to?  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 11:13 PM   #67 
     - "THE BILL IS A PIECE OF CRAP" There are some  ProSense   Mar-04-10 11:21 PM   #68 
        - That's it? That's what you got? No PO but a requirement for insurance companies to use  rhett o rick   Mar-04-10 11:52 PM   #69 
  - Because the midterms are closer now  TransitJohn   Mar-04-10 10:41 PM   #65 
  - nodding  Bluebear   Mar-05-10 04:59 AM   #71 
  - And, before August, 72% of Americans favored HCR!  DailyGrind51   Mar-05-10 05:54 AM   #72 

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