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Thu Mar-04-10 01:57 PM
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| 4. He had to wait for the lobbyists to tell him what they wanted in the final bill |
| -How come Obama didn't push this hard for health care when |
quinnox |
Mar-04-10 01:49 PM |
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Because he knew the bill was Insurance Care, not healthcare |
leftstreet |
Mar-04-10 01:51 PM |
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Because he wasn't going to fight for HCR until it was the bill he wanted |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 01:54 PM |
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Its hard to argue |
quinnox |
Mar-04-10 01:59 PM |
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Not baffling is you take into account his promises to AHIP. nt |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 02:02 PM |
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He's still not fighting for HCR |
dflprincess |
Mar-04-10 02:02 PM |
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Please explain to me why HC Insurance stocks took a huge hit yesterday? |
tridim |
Mar-04-10 02:08 PM |
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Fail. Lots of factors affect the stock market |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 02:18 PM |
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There is the key. The president wants to pass the bill before anymore Senators |
rhett o rick |
Mar-04-10 02:29 PM |
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Their stocks dropped like a rock immediately after the President's speech. |
tridim |
Mar-04-10 02:39 PM |
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Correlation doesn't prove causation |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 02:48 PM |
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It stinks for the status quo and the GOP. |
tridim |
Mar-04-10 03:03 PM |
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No, I already understand the harm the bill does to the American people |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 03:13 PM |
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You left out the industry regulations. Again. |
tridim |
Mar-04-10 03:18 PM |
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I have every clue as to what the bill does. I read it. I suspect you have not. |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 03:22 PM |
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There are no regulations that are worth warm spit n/t |
eridani |
Mar-04-10 03:30 PM |
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Gee. Do you believe those "regulations".... |
bvar22 |
Mar-04-10 05:35 PM |
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Nobody on DU lays it out more clearly and consistently than you. |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 08:01 PM |
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It is notthing but the worst kind of fuckover for people 50-64 |
eridani |
Mar-04-10 03:29 PM |
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It could be because now after months of Democratic leadership |
sabrina 1 |
Mar-04-10 04:10 PM |
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+1 nt |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 08:03 PM |
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+1 |
Echo In Light |
Mar-04-10 02:13 PM |
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Honestly, I think the WH wanted it to become do or die |
DJ13 |
Mar-04-10 01:57 PM |
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Exactly!! everyone read his reply |
barbiegeek |
Mar-04-10 03:22 PM |
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He had to wait for the lobbyists to tell him what they wanted in the final bill |
proud2BlibKansan |
Mar-04-10 01:57 PM |
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He now knows he fucked it up and is deperate |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Mar-04-10 01:58 PM |
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I'm still of the mind that Feingold was correct when he said this was the bil the President always |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 02:04 PM |
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+1 |
DrDan |
Mar-04-10 02:11 PM |
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Yes. He is desperate. |
rrwcf |
Mar-04-10 02:12 PM |
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Welcome |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 02:35 PM |
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Thanks! |
rrwcf |
Mar-04-10 03:21 PM |
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I honestly think he was so scared off by what happened with the Clinton bill, |
napi21 |
Mar-04-10 02:00 PM |
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Great. Just what we need, a scared President. nt |
rhett o rick |
Mar-04-10 06:09 PM |
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It is curious that he never felt the need to act before. |
dflprincess |
Mar-04-10 02:01 PM |
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When there were 60 votes they didn't need his help |
NJmaverick |
Mar-04-10 02:04 PM |
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So you are saying he didnt help because 60 votes is a big enough margin to not worry? |
rhett o rick |
Mar-04-10 02:40 PM |
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Or, when, early on they had only 58? nt |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 02:50 PM |
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Had Ted's seat stayed in Democratic hands health care would already been passed |
NJmaverick |
Mar-04-10 03:04 PM |
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Please explain. The help we need is to reconcile the HOR bill and the Senate bill. |
rhett o rick |
Mar-04-10 03:14 PM |
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President Obama's healthcare summit gave the Dems the political cover to |
NJmaverick |
Mar-04-10 03:18 PM |
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"political cover", "harder to defend against", are you serious? |
rhett o rick |
Mar-04-10 05:56 PM |
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Are you insane? Did you sleep though all of yesterday? |
tridim |
Mar-04-10 03:29 PM |
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I see that any kind of dialog with you is useless. Good bye. nt |
rhett o rick |
Mar-04-10 05:49 PM |
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Good question |
AllentownJake |
Mar-04-10 02:06 PM |
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Well, because you weren't paying attention... |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-04-10 02:17 PM |
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Good grief. Interesting that some of his supporters in here |
rhett o rick |
Mar-04-10 02:39 PM |
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Strongly supported=Mentioned it a couple of times and called it a sliver. nt |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 08:06 PM |
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I never saw him push all that hard for a PO. NT |
cameozalaznick |
Mar-04-10 10:53 PM |
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He is in a hurry now to get a bill passed w/o the PO. The 35th Senator just signed on |
rhett o rick |
Mar-04-10 02:42 PM |
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In your opinion. |
tridim |
Mar-04-10 03:04 PM |
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Can you show me anything to suggest that the president supports the PO? nt |
rhett o rick |
Mar-04-10 03:14 PM |
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He has said he supports a PO hundreds of times. |
tridim |
Mar-04-10 03:24 PM |
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Last I saw he was saying he never even campaigned on it |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 03:28 PM |
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I guess a strong PO isnt definitive enough. He may support the "exchange" |
rhett o rick |
Mar-04-10 03:41 PM |
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Hundreds of times? I reviewed your links and found that the closest the President |
rhett o rick |
Mar-04-10 06:02 PM |
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But he mentioned it in a couple of speeches and he called it a sliver |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 08:07 PM |
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Because Presidents are not allowed to present legislation. Only Congress can do that. |
Bluebear |
Mar-04-10 03:14 PM |
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Because they didn't really have a 60-vote majority. |
damntexdem |
Mar-04-10 03:15 PM |
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so tuck nuts and cluck? |
upi402 |
Mar-04-10 03:24 PM |
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I think it was because he took about ... |
gleaner |
Mar-04-10 03:28 PM |
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Probably because he expected Congress to do it's job. Remember, the angry republican |
berni_mccoy |
Mar-04-10 06:07 PM |
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As I recall, the President had nothing but praise for the good work Baucus' committee was doing |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 08:11 PM |
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That's not exactly true. He praised him until Summer came and went. Then there was some |
berni_mccoy |
Mar-04-10 10:26 PM |
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Nevertheless, it was clear to me he was much more enthusiastic about Baucus' bill |
laughingliberal |
Mar-05-10 01:16 AM |
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The Insurance Industry was made certain assurances at the beginning of the process |
DefenseLawyer |
Mar-04-10 08:15 PM |
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Yeah, a little denial goes a long way around here. nt |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 09:29 PM |
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Because he didn't need to? |
ProSense |
Mar-04-10 10:38 PM |
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I believe you are serious. The president didnt support the PO because he didnt need to? |
rhett o rick |
Mar-04-10 11:13 PM |
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"THE BILL IS A PIECE OF CRAP" There are some |
ProSense |
Mar-04-10 11:21 PM |
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That's it? That's what you got? No PO but a requirement for insurance companies to use |
rhett o rick |
Mar-04-10 11:52 PM |
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Because the midterms are closer now |
TransitJohn |
Mar-04-10 10:41 PM |
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nodding |
Bluebear |
Mar-05-10 04:59 AM |
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And, before August, 72% of Americans favored HCR! |
DailyGrind51 |
Mar-05-10 05:54 AM |
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