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Thu Mar-04-10 01:05 PM
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| 31. Blame the news as well |
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there is no 'fair and balanced' reporting. Just like only sensational news hits the air, only the sensational school news is broadcast.
If you were to read the news, not only would you believe that your life is in grave danger from murderers, terrorists, chemicals, etc but you'd also believe that schools are filled with pedophile teachers and young men ready to settle the score for bullying.
Maybe part of the problem is the loss of the local newspaper where you used to be able to readd about the honor roll and the art awards and charity work that happens at school.
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| -Really - What Happened To Our Schools?....... |
global1 |
Mar-04-10 12:38 PM |
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Standardized tests and less emphasis on liberal arts and skills. |
no_hypocrisy |
Mar-04-10 12:42 PM |
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NCLB killed independent thought |
557188 |
Mar-04-10 01:04 PM |
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same bitch 40 yrs ago. family environment counts for something. we have always |
seabeyond |
Mar-04-10 01:07 PM |
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Agreed. No problem-solving, no critical thinking, no logic, no extrapolation. |
no_hypocrisy |
Mar-04-10 01:11 PM |
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Yep, they ask less questions and believe what their Government tells them.....The lobotomization of |
JohnnyBoots |
Mar-04-10 02:42 PM |
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racists fuckwits didn't want to fund public schools if black kids could use them |
pitohui |
Mar-04-10 12:44 PM |
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You make a really good point. Integration in some districts |
EFerrari |
Mar-04-10 12:47 PM |
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+1 |
proud2BlibKansan |
Mar-04-10 01:14 PM |
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I Think You Are Correct |
we can do it |
Mar-04-10 07:42 PM |
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I had a friend who said the same thing as you. |
hollowdweller |
Mar-04-10 08:03 PM |
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Ronald Reagan happened |
XemaSab |
Mar-04-10 12:44 PM |
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sputnik |
rampart |
Mar-04-10 02:54 PM |
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That was certainly part of it |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Mar-04-10 06:45 PM |
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babies havin babies |
maxsolomon |
Mar-04-10 12:44 PM |
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so right on. i am tired of thread after thread blaming schools. and the obvious sits in front of |
seabeyond |
Mar-04-10 12:50 PM |
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That may be true but it doesn't obviate the attack on public ed |
EFerrari |
Mar-04-10 12:54 PM |
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republicans? sheeeit. dems falling into repug game. look at du attacking schools |
seabeyond |
Mar-04-10 12:55 PM |
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Well, it started with Republicans and sure, now also bolstered by "Democrats". |
EFerrari |
Mar-04-10 12:57 PM |
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i will go with that. agreed. nt |
seabeyond |
Mar-04-10 12:59 PM |
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Also as pitohui pointed out up thread, as soon as public schools had to integrate, |
EFerrari |
Mar-04-10 01:04 PM |
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oh... and those big bad liberal teachers being paid by tax money doing nothing all day |
seabeyond |
Mar-04-10 01:08 PM |
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A while back I was doing a sales job where I met clients in their homes. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-04-10 12:57 PM |
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i have gotten ass chewed out by adults cause they say too many books, kids read too much |
seabeyond |
Mar-04-10 01:01 PM |
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We didn't have any books in our home until I started buying them with my allowance |
EFerrari |
Mar-04-10 01:14 PM |
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true! |
we can do it |
Mar-04-10 07:43 PM |
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Raygun. |
EFerrari |
Mar-04-10 12:44 PM |
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A thirty-year war waged against public education beginning with a fraudulent report |
tonysam |
Mar-04-10 12:45 PM |
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kids have been in 4 schools. all of them have been excellent. teachers excellent |
seabeyond |
Mar-04-10 12:49 PM |
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There were crappy schools back then too. I went to school in the 1950's and 1960's, |
raccoon |
Mar-04-10 12:51 PM |
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Really? Where was that? The schools I went to were great |
EFerrari |
Mar-04-10 12:53 PM |
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A very poor county in a poor state (SC). Lowwwwwwww tax base. nt |
raccoon |
Mar-04-10 01:26 PM |
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Two figure I thought interesting |
NoNothing |
Mar-04-10 12:52 PM |
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Are you suggesting that the problem is teachers earning too much money? |
The Midway Rebel |
Mar-04-10 01:12 PM |
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Where do you live that the average teacher earns over $100K a year?? |
proud2BlibKansan |
Mar-04-10 01:17 PM |
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Avg $52,000 in salary + $50,000 benefits n/t |
NoNothing |
Mar-04-10 04:37 PM |
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Liar. |
tabasco |
Mar-04-10 06:06 PM |
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Median vs. mean? |
NoNothing |
Mar-04-10 06:41 PM |
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Wait a minute. I thought you said it was $100K |
proud2BlibKansan |
Mar-04-10 06:14 PM |
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"Over" not "exactly" |
NoNothing |
Mar-04-10 06:44 PM |
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Please explain the $50K in benefits |
proud2BlibKansan |
Mar-04-10 06:47 PM |
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My guess is pension, training and health care mostly |
NoNothing |
Mar-04-10 06:59 PM |
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That's insane |
proud2BlibKansan |
Mar-04-10 07:10 PM |
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If the school board was lying |
NoNothing |
Mar-04-10 07:20 PM |
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Or maybe you misunderstood |
proud2BlibKansan |
Mar-04-10 07:31 PM |
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Did you watch the video? |
NoNothing |
Mar-04-10 07:34 PM |
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They are obviously including some other costs in that figure. |
proud2BlibKansan |
Mar-04-10 07:53 PM |
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The "teach to test" requirements to undermine funding for public schools |
HopeHoops |
Mar-04-10 12:53 PM |
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As a parent I can see a few things |
Fresh_Start |
Mar-04-10 12:53 PM |
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My school system is light years better than it was in the 60s-70s. |
FSogol |
Mar-04-10 12:56 PM |
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that is what i am seeing from ALL the schools in this area. nt |
seabeyond |
Mar-04-10 01:02 PM |
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The Science and Math obsession killed it |
anonymous171 |
Mar-04-10 01:00 PM |
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WTF? |
we can do it |
Mar-04-10 07:47 PM |
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Nothing. But you sure have fallen for the RW propaganda that something has. (nt) |
ieoeja |
Mar-04-10 01:00 PM |
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and there is the answer. nt |
seabeyond |
Mar-04-10 01:03 PM |
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Failing Schools = Welfare Queen?? |
hollowdweller |
Mar-04-10 08:17 PM |
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The big secret is that the schools really aren't all that bad. |
izzybeans |
Mar-04-10 01:00 PM |
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excellent points nt |
Fresh_Start |
Mar-04-10 01:01 PM |
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Of course they're not; that's why the privatizers are so bent on killing it |
tonysam |
Mar-04-10 07:35 PM |
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Some schools are not so bad, there is more variability now that 50 years ago |
Sancho |
Mar-04-10 01:04 PM |
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Blame the news as well |
Fresh_Start |
Mar-04-10 01:05 PM |
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The elephant in the room |
DonCoquixote |
Mar-04-10 01:06 PM |
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religion is tax exempt |
rampart |
Mar-04-10 02:56 PM |
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In an off year election this past year, our 1st or 2nd largest |
mmonk |
Mar-04-10 01:08 PM |
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American corporocrats happened. |
Orsino |
Mar-04-10 01:08 PM |
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That's it in a nutshell. n/t |
Fire1 |
Mar-04-10 02:13 PM |
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republicans and the ruling class have methodically undermined, |
branders seine |
Mar-04-10 01:09 PM |
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"The fundamental issue is not charter schools and is not |
Fire1 |
Mar-04-10 01:25 PM |
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Kids are too long-term an investment. And they don't vote. |
Terry in Austin |
Mar-04-10 02:38 PM |
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My 2 cents. |
Igel |
Mar-04-10 03:20 PM |
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Schools have become too "college prep" |
ejbrush |
Mar-04-10 05:56 PM |
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Schools simply reflect the state of the American family, which has |
warm regards |
Mar-04-10 06:27 PM |
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I don't consider "illegitimacy" to be automatically irresponsible. |
Lyric |
Mar-04-10 08:04 PM |
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Nothing is "automatically irresponsible," but decades of social-science research |
warm regards |
Mar-06-10 08:48 AM |
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Here's my take. |
TransitJohn |
Mar-04-10 07:29 PM |
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There are many good responses above, just like to add another. |
kiva |
Mar-04-10 07:38 PM |
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having to function with less money year after year would be a start |
proud patriot |
Mar-04-10 07:46 PM |
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I think school today is WAY tougher than when I went in the 70's |
hollowdweller |
Mar-04-10 07:57 PM |
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Wow - I Sure Learned A Lot From The Response Here - It's Ashamed That We Didn't Get The Recommends . |
global1 |
Mar-05-10 12:10 AM |
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three decades of creeping "business management" caused the fish to rot... |
mike_c |
Mar-05-10 11:25 AM |
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+1^ Corporatism needs uneducated, non-thinking droids as labor |
upi402 |
Mar-05-10 11:36 AM |
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BINGO!! DING! DING! FUCKIN DING!!!! |
Fire1 |
Mar-05-10 01:00 PM |
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Two words: Ronald Reagan |
Kievan Rus |
Mar-05-10 11:36 AM |
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