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Thu Mar-04-10 02:45 PM
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My fault. Sorry. Learned alot. I apologize for being so mean and insulting to others. I'm going now. Have a good night.
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| -Oppose the Dietary Supplement Safety Act of 2010 bill |
Pharaoh |
Mar-04-10 08:14 AM |
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Done. |
BonnieJW |
Mar-04-10 08:41 AM |
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FYI: The bill is stuck in Committee since Feb. 4. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Mar-04-10 08:52 AM |
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Nice site - bookmarked |
karynnj |
Mar-04-10 10:08 AM |
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What bad elements of the EU model exist in this? n/t |
upi402 |
Mar-05-10 11:43 AM |
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The supplement industry is a cesspool of corruption |
AngryAmish |
Mar-04-10 08:58 AM |
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They will just regulate it all right into the hands of big Pharma |
Tailormyst |
Mar-04-10 09:51 AM |
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+1 |
BuddhaGirl |
Mar-04-10 10:05 AM |
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Read the legislation. |
HuckleB |
Mar-04-10 10:31 AM |
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Once they start regulating it - you watch. |
Tailormyst |
Mar-04-10 10:45 AM |
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As it stands right now you can go |
JoeyT |
Mar-04-10 11:27 AM |
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Thank you for wanting to have a conversation |
Tailormyst |
Mar-04-10 12:08 PM |
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Tell you what |
JoeyT |
Mar-04-10 12:54 PM |
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Hehehe- I bet he is right |
Tailormyst |
Mar-04-10 01:04 PM |
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I never thought that something like this was possible in these topics.... |
Dorian Gray |
Mar-06-10 06:18 AM |
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They will never be able to prove any such thing |
alarimer |
Mar-04-10 01:04 PM |
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Since when is acupuncture a dietary supplement? |
BuelahWitch |
Mar-05-10 12:18 PM |
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I'll give you homeopathy |
Dorian Gray |
Mar-06-10 06:19 AM |
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Studies that claim such effectiveness are one thing. |
HuckleB |
Mar-06-10 06:17 PM |
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I suppose that's why accupuncture is taught at veterinary school |
northernlights |
Mar-06-10 06:30 PM |
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So, you're worried about your perception of what might happen in the future... |
SidDithers |
Mar-04-10 12:13 PM |
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Yes- I guess my faith in DC has been that shattered lately. |
Tailormyst |
Mar-04-10 12:14 PM |
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Fair enough... |
SidDithers |
Mar-04-10 12:19 PM |
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I will do that. |
Tailormyst |
Mar-04-10 12:20 PM |
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"Regulated" does not mean "prescription only" |
PVnRT |
Mar-04-10 12:15 PM |
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Sorry, but that is not an excuse to oppose good, consumer protection legislation. |
HuckleB |
Mar-04-10 12:47 PM |
#46 |
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perhaps you missed some of the comments I made further into the sub thread. |
Tailormyst |
Mar-04-10 01:05 PM |
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So, there is nothing in the bill that says it. |
trotsky |
Mar-04-10 01:28 PM |
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You know what? |
Tailormyst |
Mar-04-10 01:36 PM |
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Exactly |
Echo In Light |
Mar-04-10 12:11 PM |
#34 |
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Please read the bill. |
HuckleB |
Mar-04-10 01:03 PM |
#49 |
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Have read the bill. Leave my vitamins and supplements alone! Now is not the time! |
Overseas |
Mar-05-10 11:01 AM |
#102 |
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sorry about your situation |
BuddhaGirl |
Mar-05-10 07:53 PM |
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I want vitamins and supplements that can be trusted. |
HuckleB |
Mar-06-10 05:58 PM |
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I got it. So you want to have a nice herb soaked and grown in human feces. |
TZ |
Mar-04-10 01:31 PM |
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I want to have AFFORDABLE vitamins and supplements. |
Overseas |
Mar-05-10 11:12 AM |
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Doesn't hold a candle to private insurers pumping premiums up while dropping coverage and |
Overseas |
Mar-05-10 10:56 AM |
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Try to think about what has gone wrong with your life and education to allow you to make that post |
AngryAmish |
Mar-06-10 05:18 AM |
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I don't have a problem with supplements |
Dorian Gray |
Mar-06-10 06:15 AM |
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Mar-04-10 09:02 AM |
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What ! ? |
Pharaoh |
Mar-04-10 10:10 AM |
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Done & recommended. |
Vidar |
Mar-04-10 09:28 AM |
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Why should they not be regulated like other drugs are? |
PVnRT |
Mar-04-10 09:59 AM |
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uh no, you're mistaken, sadly |
BuddhaGirl |
Mar-04-10 10:08 AM |
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Which does not address my main point |
PVnRT |
Mar-04-10 10:16 AM |
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Because they don't have the same influence as big pharma |
Tailormyst |
Mar-04-10 11:02 AM |
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That makes no sense |
PVnRT |
Mar-04-10 12:17 PM |
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please see my response to Joey up thread. |
Tailormyst |
Mar-04-10 12:19 PM |
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In reality, they clearly have plenty of power. |
HuckleB |
Mar-04-10 01:04 PM |
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Yes, they have power in Washington |
PVnRT |
Mar-05-10 06:38 AM |
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You're not responding the actual content of my post. |
HuckleB |
Mar-05-10 10:02 AM |
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LOVE the hypocrisy |
TZ |
Mar-04-10 01:29 PM |
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I will defend the freedom of people to take |
BuddhaGirl |
Mar-04-10 02:37 PM |
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Pharma is better than big supplements. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-05-10 11:13 AM |
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supplements make people better too |
BuddhaGirl |
Mar-05-10 07:56 PM |
#137 |
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LOVE the cruelty |
Overseas |
Mar-05-10 11:22 AM |
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Numerous things wrong with that post |
Juche |
Mar-06-10 06:25 PM |
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So lets put supplement companies under the same regulations as big pharma! |
HuckleB |
Mar-06-10 06:28 PM |
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By all means |
Juche |
Mar-06-10 06:38 PM |
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Do you think the supplement companies won't have to fund the studies that prove their drugs safe? |
HuckleB |
Mar-06-10 06:42 PM |
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EXACTLY! |
HuckleB |
Mar-04-10 10:31 AM |
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If I want to go down the street and by some St Johnswort, then I should be able to. |
Tailormyst |
Mar-04-10 11:00 AM |
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Nothing says you can't. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-04-10 11:09 AM |
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And what if I want to grow it in my back yard? |
Tailormyst |
Mar-04-10 11:14 AM |
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That's fine. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-04-10 11:16 AM |
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It starts out being about woo-woos |
Tailormyst |
Mar-04-10 11:24 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Mar-04-10 11:28 AM |
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So you want to be free to buy arsenic tainted poison ivy? |
TZ |
Mar-04-10 01:33 PM |
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Do you feel better now? |
Tailormyst |
Mar-04-10 01:40 PM |
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Right now, yes. 44,000 die early without health insurance. |
Overseas |
Mar-05-10 11:30 AM |
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Would you like to be assured, then, that the capsules you are buying... |
trotsky |
Mar-04-10 01:34 PM |
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sigh |
Tailormyst |
Mar-04-10 01:42 PM |
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Well when you explode with lots of posts... |
trotsky |
Mar-04-10 02:07 PM |
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No- what I am surprised is the comments continuing for hours AFTER I said I was wrong |
Tailormyst |
Mar-04-10 02:15 PM |
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LOL |
trotsky |
Mar-04-10 02:27 PM |
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I'm not crabby, I am frustrated. |
Tailormyst |
Mar-04-10 02:30 PM |
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Be aware that you yourself have jumped all over a lot of people in this thread.... |
trotsky |
Mar-04-10 02:39 PM |
#77 |
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Yup |
Tailormyst |
Mar-04-10 02:45 PM |
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They are dead set against it because they know they will fail. |
alarimer |
Mar-04-10 01:06 PM |
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Too expensive right now when millions of us are desperately uninsured. |
Overseas |
Mar-05-10 11:17 AM |
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Fuck McLAME!! |
CLANG |
Mar-04-10 10:22 AM |
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Your link misrepresents the actual contents of the bill. |
HuckleB |
Mar-04-10 10:33 AM |
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There have been too many shenanigans with dietary supplements to count |
derby378 |
Mar-04-10 11:17 AM |
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Grandpa Simpson can have my supplements |
Sebastian Doyle |
Mar-04-10 11:21 AM |
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THANKS for that link ... I will certainly do it! nt |
Raine |
Mar-04-10 11:33 AM |
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Speaking of misleading people. |
JoeyT |
Mar-04-10 11:35 AM |
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"The panic" is the fact that our last little lifelines could become much more expensive. |
Overseas |
Mar-05-10 11:36 AM |
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Self delete, noticed I was repeating what was already said. |
Confusious |
Mar-06-10 05:43 PM |
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Thankfully this ridiculous opposition to a good bill will not matter in the end. |
Lance_Boyle |
Mar-04-10 11:39 AM |
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My husband's cardiologist advised him to buy a bottle of woo and start taking 3 caps a day of it |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 12:14 PM |
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the 'prescription-only' thing is a canard - would never happen |
Lance_Boyle |
Mar-04-10 01:26 PM |
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I have no problem with assuring the product is what it says it is |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 03:05 PM |
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Because the last thing we want is safe supplements! |
Orrex |
Mar-04-10 11:56 AM |
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Fish oil=Snake oil? |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 12:17 PM |
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The snake oil part is when fish oil as a panacea |
Orrex |
Mar-04-10 01:04 PM |
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So, cute phrasing prompted you to denigrate a product that most cardiologists in the country are |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 02:25 PM |
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I've done some research & I see that I'm the first person ever to use a pun to make a point. Ever! |
Orrex |
Mar-04-10 02:33 PM |
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Don't ever get to see the Daily Show. Comes on when my husband watches something else |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 02:38 PM |
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Orrex clarified that it is only "snake oil" per se when it is being used as a panacea |
Maru Kitteh |
Mar-05-10 08:52 PM |
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Thanks for getting my back! |
Orrex |
Mar-07-10 11:45 AM |
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Comparing fish oil |
Dorian Gray |
Mar-06-10 06:34 AM |
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It was a tongue-in-cheek reference |
Orrex |
Mar-06-10 06:50 AM |
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No... |
SidDithers |
Mar-04-10 12:10 PM |
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Later, please. Medicare for All first. //nt |
Overseas |
Mar-05-10 11:47 AM |
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No. Because that isn't likely in a generation. |
Maru Kitteh |
Mar-05-10 08:58 PM |
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Supplements need to be regulated |
Ratty |
Mar-04-10 12:32 PM |
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Supplements ought to be regulated, and this bill doesn't "ban consumer access" |
fishwax |
Mar-04-10 12:45 PM |
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I am in favor of anything that gets rid of "dietary supplements" |
alarimer |
Mar-04-10 01:02 PM |
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They are not regulated as food - they have no safety regulation. |
Lance_Boyle |
Mar-04-10 01:35 PM |
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Ironically, I believe that as of last year, tobacco is more regulated |
nemo137 |
Mar-04-10 01:46 PM |
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So, tobacco should be less regulated than dietary supplements? |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 02:45 PM |
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I just find it weird that something that makes explicit claims about being a drug |
nemo137 |
Mar-04-10 03:45 PM |
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But there is absolutely no irony in tobacco being more regulated than supplements |
laughingliberal |
Mar-04-10 04:20 PM |
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Ok, I misused the word irony |
nemo137 |
Mar-04-10 05:15 PM |
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Imagine anyone wanting their herbs and vitamins wanting the same standards as Tylenol |
TZ |
Mar-04-10 01:35 PM |
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Nice post, ventriloquist |
Orrex |
Mar-04-10 03:12 PM |
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STEVIA |
shanti |
Mar-04-10 02:20 PM |
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I object! I gained 15 lbs when ephedra was banned |
ecstatic |
Mar-04-10 02:51 PM |
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American version of similar herb is available. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Mar-05-10 10:41 AM |
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have you seen |
eShirl |
Mar-05-10 12:00 PM |
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If it in anyway circumvents the supplement act Orrin Hatch wrote/passed in 1994... |
Umbral |
Mar-04-10 03:20 PM |
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{{pounds head on wall}} |
EvolveOrConvolve |
Mar-04-10 09:22 PM |
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Mar-05-10 08:19 AM |
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They're worried Big Pharma is going to patent homeopathic canine feces...nt |
SidDithers |
Mar-05-10 09:35 AM |
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K&R. The cruelty of taking away our supplements when we can't even go to the doctor |
Overseas |
Mar-05-10 09:48 AM |
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Read the legislation. |
HuckleB |
Mar-05-10 10:03 AM |
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It will make them more expensive. Leave them alone in these desperate times. |
Overseas |
Mar-05-10 10:44 AM |
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You have no guarantees of what's in what you buy, and such a lack of regulation is hypocritical. |
HuckleB |
Mar-05-10 11:36 AM |
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It is the cruelty of imposing restrictions right now when we are desperately uninsured. |
Overseas |
Mar-05-10 11:43 AM |
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You are making assumptions you cannot make. |
HuckleB |
Mar-05-10 11:54 AM |
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Making a vitamin is 1000000000x easier then making a drug. |
Confusious |
Mar-06-10 05:54 PM |
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GMP supplements |
BuddhaGirl |
Mar-05-10 08:03 PM |
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Self regulation "guidelines" are good enough for the supplement industry?... |
SidDithers |
Mar-05-10 08:14 PM |
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I am fine with the way it is |
BuddhaGirl |
Mar-05-10 08:21 PM |
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You and your BIG GUBMINT! |
HuckleB |
Mar-05-10 08:45 PM |
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Actually, we've had far too many examples that show we don't know. |
HuckleB |
Mar-05-10 08:44 PM |
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What about the For Profit supplement industry?... |
SidDithers |
Mar-05-10 10:08 AM |
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Mar-05-10 10:17 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Mar-05-10 11:14 AM |
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Gee, where are all the "Don't Let The Perfect Be the Enemy of The Good" people |
Overseas |
Mar-05-10 10:53 AM |
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Quality control and testing is a price of doing business... |
SidDithers |
Mar-05-10 11:17 AM |
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+1 |
HuckleB |
Mar-05-10 11:37 AM |
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Open up Medicare. Single Payer Now. |
Overseas |
Mar-05-10 11:49 AM |
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Those are two different issues. |
HuckleB |
Mar-05-10 11:53 AM |
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No NEW regulations on the supplements we desperate people depend on. |
Overseas |
Mar-05-10 06:16 PM |
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You've yet to make a logical argument for your stand on the DSSA. |
HuckleB |
Mar-05-10 07:22 PM |
#135 |
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Some people think honest basic compassion is not logical. |
Overseas |
Mar-06-10 03:11 PM |
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There is nothing compassionate about allowing an unregulated industry rip off the vulnerable |
Maru Kitteh |
Mar-06-10 03:36 PM |
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Yes there is. There are good companies amid the bad ones, and right now |
Overseas |
Mar-07-10 10:43 AM |
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WOW! |
HuckleB |
Mar-07-10 10:48 AM |
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Right back at you, pal. First let's get non-profit health care as a basic human right in the USA . |
Overseas |
Mar-07-10 11:50 AM |
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The reality is that the supplement industry is not honest and cares nothing about compassion. |
HuckleB |
Mar-06-10 06:00 PM |
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I'm not asking them to be compassionate. I'm asking you to be compassionate enough |
Overseas |
Mar-07-10 10:37 AM |
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I'm asking you to be compassionate enough to stop the scam artists from continuing to abuse people. |
HuckleB |
Mar-07-10 10:47 AM |
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First things first. Compassionate non-profit health care for all in the USA. |
Overseas |
Mar-07-10 12:14 PM |
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Cheap and potentially dangerous or innefective... |
SidDithers |
Mar-07-10 10:40 AM |
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+1 |
HuckleB |
Mar-07-10 10:48 AM |
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Compassionate non-profit healthcare for all in the USA is the most important first step. |
Overseas |
Mar-07-10 12:15 PM |
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It is the cruelty of pushing this now. Medicare for All first. |
Overseas |
Mar-05-10 11:46 AM |
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But if budgets are tight, and supplements are all that can be afforded... |
SidDithers |
Mar-05-10 11:49 AM |
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No. Because it will make supplements much more expensive in the meantime |
Overseas |
Mar-05-10 11:53 AM |
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That is a piss poor excuse for an argument. |
Maru Kitteh |
Mar-06-10 03:45 PM |
#156 |
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I hope it passes |
jmowreader |
Mar-05-10 10:27 AM |
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Done. |
Overseas |
Mar-05-10 10:34 AM |
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I must be on the wrong site..I do NOT want this to pass. Supplements will be gone IMO if it does ro |
krabigirl |
Mar-05-10 11:52 AM |
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I must be on the wrong site..I do NOT want this to pass. Supplements will be gone IMO if it does ro |
krabigirl |
Mar-05-10 11:52 AM |
#119 |
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Read the bill. |
HuckleB |
Mar-05-10 11:55 AM |
#123 |
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Basis? We don't need no stinking bases! |
Maru Kitteh |
Mar-06-10 03:54 PM |
#158 |
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+1 |
HuckleB |
Mar-06-10 06:01 PM |
#163 |
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I tend to agree |
BuddhaGirl |
Mar-05-10 08:05 PM |
#139 |
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The Dietary Supplement Safety Act of 2010: A long overdue correction to the DSHEA of 1994? |
HuckleB |
Mar-05-10 11:56 AM |
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Harvard doc: Dietary supplements could be deadly |
HuckleB |
Mar-05-10 11:59 AM |
#125 |
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American Roulette — Contaminated Dietary Supplements |
HuckleB |
Mar-05-10 11:59 AM |
#126 |
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New England Journal of Medicine?... |
SidDithers |
Mar-05-10 12:02 PM |
#128 |
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Drat! |
HuckleB |
Mar-05-10 12:03 PM |
#129 |
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That article should be in a thread by itself... |
SidDithers |
Mar-05-10 12:06 PM |
#130 |
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I get mine straight from David Icke and the John Birch Society. |
superduperfarleft |
Mar-05-10 12:07 PM |
#131 |
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Thanks for the kind words... |
SidDithers |
Mar-05-10 12:12 PM |
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h m |
AngryAmish |
Mar-06-10 12:55 PM |
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K&R |
Greyhound |
Mar-06-10 03:21 PM |
#154 |
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Done |
keep_it_real |
Mar-06-10 03:50 PM |
#157 |
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This bill is dead as of Friday...n/t |
Happy Hippy |
Mar-06-10 06:07 PM |
#164 |
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Link, please. |
HuckleB |
Mar-06-10 06:30 PM |
#169 |
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