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Tue Mar-02-10 04:00 PM
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| 76. Glad to see someone else is noticing it, even from outside the business |
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I cringe every time I see their animated figures getting crushed, tossed, killed, etc, as though that is what the audience is waiting to see happen to the real life people. Which they probably are, given how their promos for the show go.
If I checked on a thinning project and saw anything happening like some of that stuff on the show, I'd shut them down and find a new logging outfit. We don't log a lot, just as necessary to manage the stand, so it isn't a daily thing for us (every so many years, and only as needed).
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| -4-Year Old Daughter of "Ax Men" Star killed by Family Dog(Rottweiler) |
RamboLiberal |
Mar-02-10 10:11 AM |
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"But our family dog would never do that!:" |
TexasObserver |
Mar-02-10 10:14 AM |
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Do you believe that the parents should be held responsible? |
olegramps |
Mar-04-10 07:01 AM |
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Yes, the dog "snapped". It was under a lot of pressure at work. Or... |
wtmusic |
Mar-02-10 10:15 AM |
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Very sad. Poor little baby didn't ask to grow up in a pack of dogs the family couldn't handle. |
dustbunnie |
Mar-02-10 10:18 AM |
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And now the dog will probably be "destroyed" for doing something |
wtmusic |
Mar-02-10 10:20 AM |
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It killed a child. |
proteus_lives |
Mar-02-10 01:43 PM |
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As punishment? |
wtmusic |
Mar-02-10 02:30 PM |
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Not really. |
proteus_lives |
Mar-02-10 02:33 PM |
#61 |
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That will do absolutely nothing to prevent the chance of it happening again. |
wtmusic |
Mar-02-10 02:36 PM |
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Agreed...they are apparently raising those dogs to be vicious |
joeybee12 |
Mar-02-10 03:00 PM |
#64 |
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+1` |
swilton |
Mar-02-10 03:19 PM |
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Not as punishment.. |
sendero |
Mar-04-10 07:42 AM |
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One dog is a pet -- two or more dogs are a pack |
FarCenter |
Mar-02-10 12:42 PM |
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Bingo! |
Highway61 |
Mar-03-10 08:13 AM |
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IMO, Dogs Belong INSIDE! |
ProfessorGAC |
Mar-03-10 08:17 AM |
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I have to wonder about people who buy dogs and then just tie them up |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Mar-03-10 10:27 AM |
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Exactly What I Think Too, Lydia. |
ProfessorGAC |
Mar-03-10 12:07 PM |
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I completely agree. |
Mad_Dem_X |
Mar-03-10 02:52 PM |
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I can't deal with dogs inside - allergies and such |
csziggy |
Mar-04-10 12:45 AM |
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That was my first thought about this tragedy. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Mar-04-10 07:30 AM |
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Very good point.. |
sendero |
Mar-04-10 07:43 AM |
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Yes and no. One dog with a human family is a pack |
Coventina |
Mar-04-10 08:24 AM |
#177 |
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What a horrible fate for this poor baby! |
JNelson6563 |
Mar-02-10 10:19 AM |
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Big dogs like rotties take EFFORT to train |
berni_mccoy |
Mar-02-10 10:22 AM |
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Can they even be trained to be safe around small children? |
wtmusic |
Mar-02-10 10:52 AM |
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I think it depends on the individual dog. |
Shell Beau |
Mar-02-10 10:57 AM |
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IMO, no dog is "safe" around small children. |
Brickbat |
Mar-02-10 10:57 AM |
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I totally disagree. |
Shell Beau |
Mar-02-10 10:59 AM |
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I've got dogs around my kids too. |
Brickbat |
Mar-02-10 11:32 AM |
#28 |
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Well I do agree that small children should always be |
Shell Beau |
Mar-02-10 12:42 PM |
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Dogs are relatives of wolves and are very pack oriented |
liberal_at_heart |
Mar-02-10 11:01 AM |
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You must have never had a good dog then. |
bamacrat |
Mar-02-10 11:06 AM |
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Nope. I've had, and have now, great dogs. |
Brickbat |
Mar-02-10 11:33 AM |
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I have also had great dogs and the one I have now is as sweet natured as any |
Arkansas Granny |
Mar-02-10 12:22 PM |
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That's what I'm talking about. |
Brickbat |
Mar-02-10 03:31 PM |
#73 |
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A responsible adult does not gamble with a child's life. |
Maru Kitteh |
Mar-02-10 11:35 AM |
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ABSOLUTELY Correct! |
DrDan |
Mar-02-10 11:59 AM |
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Agreed |
cutlassmama |
Mar-02-10 01:41 PM |
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Akitas. |
Cetacea |
Mar-03-10 03:32 AM |
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Um, except when the Akita does it itself. |
Brickbat |
Mar-03-10 08:11 AM |
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Children roll their eyes like that. |
Cetacea |
Mar-04-10 02:27 PM |
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Yes. I personally know of one who is trustworthy with an infant. |
Barack_America |
Mar-02-10 11:19 AM |
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I know a lady who is in her 60's. She trains Rotties. They LOVE her. They can't take their eyes |
xultar |
Mar-02-10 11:03 AM |
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I took my little 45 pound dog to the vet yesterday |
DeschutesRiver |
Mar-02-10 04:58 PM |
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this is so sad . . . children of this age are so trusting - trusting their parents to take care |
DrDan |
Mar-02-10 10:25 AM |
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and far too often the children pay dearly for the parents negligence and vanity |
Maru Kitteh |
Mar-02-10 01:52 PM |
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Most people don't research what breed would be best suited for their family |
liberal_at_heart |
Mar-02-10 10:41 AM |
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Maybe some breeds are better than others for children but training is the key |
csziggy |
Mar-04-10 12:26 AM |
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What a shame. RIP little baby girl. How tragic. |
Shell Beau |
Mar-02-10 10:54 AM |
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How awful. That little girl probably loved her dog, too. What a betrayal. |
TwilightGardener |
Mar-02-10 11:02 AM |
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I'm going to take a guess with two vicious dogs in the same household.... |
Barack_America |
Mar-02-10 11:21 AM |
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Dang, I didn't think rotties would do this. |
Tim01 2.0 |
Mar-02-10 11:02 AM |
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Any dog can do this and has done this. |
Shell Beau |
Mar-02-10 11:03 AM |
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Any large dog. It would be a lot harder for a toy dog. nt |
pnwmom |
Mar-02-10 12:30 PM |
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Yes, but smaller dogs like toy dogs can be much more |
Shell Beau |
Mar-02-10 12:40 PM |
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I got attacked by a chihuahua when I was 2 |
XemaSab |
Mar-02-10 04:12 PM |
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And they have claws and teeth too. Even if it is a small dog, |
Shell Beau |
Mar-02-10 05:24 PM |
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The only serious dog bite I ever got was from the family Chihuahua |
csziggy |
Mar-04-10 12:31 AM |
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Sure. But their bites are extremely unlikely to kill before someone can intervene. n/t |
pnwmom |
Mar-02-10 11:13 PM |
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ANY dog can do this. A golden retriever has killed. You are very shortsided. |
xultar |
Mar-02-10 11:04 AM |
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My sides are not short. They are the correct length. |
Tim01 2.0 |
Mar-02-10 11:14 AM |
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Mr. Pedantic says |
Codeine |
Mar-02-10 11:17 AM |
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ROFL. You can tell I'm edumacated. |
xultar |
Mar-02-10 11:28 AM |
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Edumacations are overrated anyway. ;-) nt |
Codeine |
Mar-02-10 11:35 AM |
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Even Collies..... You know, 'Lassie'. |
Edweird |
Mar-02-10 02:54 PM |
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Never leave kids and dogs alone, regardless of breed. |
Barack_America |
Mar-02-10 11:17 AM |
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Four big dogs. I wonder if these animals were trained ... |
surrealAmerican |
Mar-02-10 11:28 AM |
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Nothing scarier then a pack of untrained big dogs. |
Tailormyst |
Mar-02-10 12:36 PM |
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Has anybody just sat and watched their dog chew on a toy? |
liberal_at_heart |
Mar-02-10 11:39 AM |
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After watching my dogs seriously fight with each other |
XemaSab |
Mar-02-10 04:20 PM |
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Ugh. NEVER leave a child unattended with ANY dog. |
flvegan |
Mar-02-10 11:39 AM |
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This is very true. Even with toddlers, small dogs can kill or maim. |
aikoaiko |
Mar-02-10 12:37 PM |
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Why is this family not being interviewed immediately? If this were a toddler in the projects |
Maru Kitteh |
Mar-02-10 11:45 AM |
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+100 |
theHandpuppet |
Mar-02-10 02:02 PM |
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ALL dogs MAY bite. |
OnyxCollie |
Mar-02-10 11:49 AM |
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But not all dogs are big enough and strong enough to do a lot of damage. n/t |
pnwmom |
Mar-02-10 12:32 PM |
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True, but bad dog behavior is bad dog behavior. |
OnyxCollie |
Mar-02-10 01:20 PM |
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I'm not excusing poor human or dog behavior. I'm simply pointing out that |
pnwmom |
Mar-02-10 11:16 PM |
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Is a Pom small enough for you? |
iris27 |
Mar-03-10 10:40 PM |
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Absolutely |
Tailormyst |
Mar-02-10 12:35 PM |
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Another Ax man "star", Mike Pihl, was arrested after flipping his jeep and injuring small kids |
DeschutesRiver |
Mar-02-10 12:31 PM |
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The ads for the show have convinced me it's nothing worth watching. Peacocks in flannel. |
Maru Kitteh |
Mar-02-10 12:39 PM |
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Yes sir.. but that's the whole point of TV.. |
Prof Lester |
Mar-02-10 01:35 PM |
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You can see it in the last season of "Monster Gararge" |
Mopar151 |
Mar-02-10 03:08 PM |
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That's right - I got about halfway through the new show on NASCAR drivers |
DeschutesRiver |
Mar-02-10 03:47 PM |
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I was quite dissapointed in "Madhouse" |
Mopar151 |
Mar-02-10 09:37 PM |
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You must have had a blast growing up around that! |
DeschutesRiver |
Mar-03-10 08:13 AM |
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Still at it, too! |
Mopar151 |
Mar-03-10 08:52 AM |
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There were so many different rigs there! |
DeschutesRiver |
Mar-03-10 10:57 AM |
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One of the oldest Motorsports - changed little since 1905 |
Mopar151 |
Mar-03-10 12:33 PM |
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I just found a site for the NW Hillclimb Association! |
DeschutesRiver |
Mar-03-10 05:37 PM |
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I know very little about logging |
RamboLiberal |
Mar-02-10 03:01 PM |
#65 |
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Glad to see someone else is noticing it, even from outside the business |
DeschutesRiver |
Mar-02-10 04:00 PM |
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The elder Browning shot up his cell phone on Sunday's episode. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Mar-04-10 12:44 AM |
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I used to live in Oregon, too, including in a small town, |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Mar-03-10 10:32 AM |
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I've only seen the ads for the show, but those guys are a danger to anyone close |
csziggy |
Mar-04-10 12:38 AM |
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Having a pack of rotties might not be the best thing for a family. |
Tailormyst |
Mar-02-10 12:33 PM |
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Unfortunate consequence of men feeling like they need big dogs to symbolize their manhood. |
NoodleyAppendage |
Mar-02-10 12:38 PM |
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Please inform my sister of this, |
Spoonman |
Mar-02-10 01:29 PM |
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Criminal Negligence? |
Taitertots |
Mar-02-10 12:40 PM |
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+1 |
Maru Kitteh |
Mar-02-10 12:41 PM |
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Well said, my friend |
AngryAmish |
Mar-02-10 03:07 PM |
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Now that my children are grown, I just passed off my copy of "Childproofing your Dog" |
mod mom |
Mar-02-10 12:52 PM |
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This is so far down-thread no one will ever see it, but here goes: |
Coventina |
Mar-02-10 03:06 PM |
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Very true. All of it. |
Shell Beau |
Mar-02-10 03:10 PM |
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Thanks for reading! And the compliment! |
Coventina |
Mar-02-10 03:14 PM |
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Those are very common sense ideas. Dogs and small children should |
Arkansas Granny |
Mar-02-10 03:17 PM |
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I read it! Thanks for posting it, and I hope many others read it as well. |
Maru Kitteh |
Mar-02-10 03:43 PM |
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Agreed. People who leave small children alone with dogs are a danger. |
TexasObserver |
Mar-02-10 06:06 PM |
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+1 |
LWolf |
Mar-04-10 07:04 AM |
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Apparently the child and dog were separated by a fence |
RamboLiberal |
Mar-02-10 04:39 PM |
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Just so tragic. I know the parents must feel a huge amount of guilt for this. |
Shell Beau |
Mar-02-10 05:26 PM |
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Why would people have "pets" that are keep in a fenced yard. |
olegramps |
Mar-04-10 07:36 AM |
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Dogs were "kept in a fenced back yard" |
flvegan |
Mar-02-10 05:31 PM |
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Your link requires a subscriber user login n/t |
RamboLiberal |
Mar-02-10 06:49 PM |
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Sorry. |
flvegan |
Mar-02-10 07:00 PM |
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People need to get a god damn clue - pitbulls and rotts are vicious attack dogs. |
earth mom |
Mar-02-10 05:36 PM |
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Well gee, that's informed and open-minded. |
LeftyMom |
Mar-02-10 06:53 PM |
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You first. n/t |
flvegan |
Mar-02-10 07:01 PM |
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Me either. n/t |
Fire1 |
Mar-02-10 07:06 PM |
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Don't worry. No one here will ever expect to change your mind about anything |
uppityperson |
Mar-03-10 02:55 AM |
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They can be. My pit bulls are. But they have been professionally trained. |
Wizard777 |
Mar-03-10 03:27 AM |
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I'll pass on trying to change your mind. |
Puglover |
Mar-04-10 08:16 AM |
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May she RIP! |
MadMaddie |
Mar-02-10 07:00 PM |
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All dogs are not family dogs. You want a family dog, get a |
Fire1 |
Mar-02-10 07:03 PM |
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I know a woman whose vagina and face were ripped apart by |
Shell Beau |
Mar-02-10 08:35 PM |
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Riiiiiiiiight. |
Fire1 |
Mar-03-10 08:37 AM |
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Ok, not sure why I'd lie about that. It most certainly did happen. |
Shell Beau |
Mar-03-10 05:29 PM |
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Shell Beau doesn't have a rep for lying on this board |
ChickMagic |
Mar-04-10 03:07 PM |
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Labs will bite. So will Poodles. I have never heard of a breed that will not bite. |
Wizard777 |
Mar-03-10 03:35 AM |
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Well that's not true. Most of the dogs in my experience have never |
Coventina |
Mar-03-10 08:04 AM |
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I define bite as breaking skin. |
Wizard777 |
Mar-03-10 12:04 PM |
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Under your definition most of the dogs I've known and know now |
Coventina |
Mar-04-10 08:02 AM |
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Any dog will bite if provoked. But it takes aLOT to provoke a |
Fire1 |
Mar-03-10 08:41 AM |
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Not really. I've seen them bite kids for messing with their food. |
Wizard777 |
Mar-03-10 12:09 PM |
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"Messing with food" is a no-no for most dogs but I've never |
Fire1 |
Mar-03-10 01:00 PM |
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I have had Labs my whole life. They are one of my favorite breeds. |
Shell Beau |
Mar-03-10 05:34 PM |
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Indeed I do because it's not in their nature. They're not |
Fire1 |
Mar-03-10 06:42 PM |
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That isn't bullshit. |
Shell Beau |
Mar-03-10 06:57 PM |
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No thanks. I'm good. n/t |
Fire1 |
Mar-03-10 07:08 PM |
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No it was a pure bred lab. But I know where you're coming from. |
Wizard777 |
Mar-04-10 06:19 AM |
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If a dog has food aggression, "messing with their food" is EXTREME provocation! |
Coventina |
Mar-04-10 08:09 AM |
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Mar-03-10 06:46 PM |
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I have small dogs |
gaspee |
Mar-02-10 08:04 PM |
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Thanks to the "History" Channel for putting these fuckheads on my teevee. |
tabasco |
Mar-02-10 08:27 PM |
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Well you have the ice truckers, the roughnecks, etc. |
Shell Beau |
Mar-02-10 08:37 PM |
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Really hard jobs, LOL. |
tabasco |
Mar-02-10 08:41 PM |
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I don't watch them, and with a 17 month old baby, my life |
Shell Beau |
Mar-02-10 08:47 PM |
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But Shell, It's NOT History |
ProfessorGAC |
Mar-03-10 08:56 AM |
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I assumed it did come on TLC or Discovery. |
Shell Beau |
Mar-03-10 05:28 PM |
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Well Said! |
ProfessorGAC |
Mar-03-10 08:52 AM |
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Hearing about shows like Ax Men and Ice Road Truckers only justifies my decision |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Mar-03-10 10:37 AM |
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Cheap to produce shows that fill 'programming hole' |
Strelnikov_ |
Mar-03-10 11:17 AM |
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It's Always Been That Way, Hasn't It? |
ProfessorGAC |
Mar-03-10 12:12 PM |
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Yes, but except for My Mother the Car, the variety shows featured |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Mar-03-10 12:57 PM |
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Yeah, but I bet they lose in the long run |
csziggy |
Mar-04-10 12:52 AM |
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basically boring people doing the same boring things over |
Thothmes |
Mar-03-10 08:21 PM |
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Hey, my work isn't exciting either, but |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Mar-03-10 09:58 PM |
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I had a rescued lab for a short while. I had to let him go when he charged my 5 year old daughter |
Jennicut |
Mar-02-10 11:24 PM |
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Rescued dogs should only be around experienced ADULTS |
Fire1 |
Mar-03-10 08:50 AM |
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I totally agree. We never had any experience with a rescued animal and thought |
Jennicut |
Mar-03-10 09:09 AM |
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Yeah, that's what makes me so angry. Some man turned a |
Fire1 |
Mar-03-10 10:24 AM |
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Good for you for being dedicated to those animals who need help. |
Jennicut |
Mar-03-10 12:18 PM |
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Awww! What a sweetie! And thank you for rescuing a kitty! n/t |
Fire1 |
Mar-03-10 12:53 PM |
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There are many more inherently bad dog owners than there are bad dogs |
Stinky The Clown |
Mar-03-10 08:07 AM |
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Absolutely, Stinky. THAT'S the problem! n/t |
Fire1 |
Mar-03-10 10:26 AM |
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It's never a good idea to have more than one dog. My father-in-law a |
mistertrickster |
Mar-03-10 05:09 PM |
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Glad your vet isn't mine. |
flvegan |
Mar-03-10 06:48 PM |
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Yeah, but you don't know ANYTHING about dogs. |
LeftyMom |
Mar-03-10 11:59 PM |
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One dog is people. Two dogs is dogs. |
TwilightGardener |
Mar-03-10 11:50 PM |
#153 |
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When Dogs Bite: Researcher Hopes Software Teaches Kids to Respect Animals |
RamboLiberal |
Mar-03-10 06:13 PM |
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True enough--but the situation described above doesn't have anything to do with the girl's behavior. |
mistertrickster |
Mar-04-10 12:06 AM |
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This is why dogs should be banned. |
liquid diamond |
Mar-03-10 07:10 PM |
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BAN ALL BIG BREEDS ! |
UndertheOcean |
Mar-03-10 07:13 PM |
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Ban all cars |
jtuck004 |
Mar-04-10 12:07 AM |
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Rottweilers should be treated like guns and kept away from children |
Kaleva |
Mar-04-10 12:57 AM |
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My Condolences Go Out To The Family, What a Tragic Ending To A Life Cut Way To Short! |
Corey_Baker08 |
Mar-04-10 12:59 AM |
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I feel sad for the little girl. What horrible way to die. |
TheCowsCameHome |
Mar-04-10 07:38 AM |
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Normally... |
sendero |
Mar-04-10 07:45 AM |
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I'm not disagreeing with your sentiment, but I have to say that the little girl |
Coventina |
Mar-04-10 06:49 PM |
#180 |