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Tue Mar-02-10 08:48 PM
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I shoot 35mm only when absolutely necessary, although I keep a Nikon FG on hand at all times. My preference is 6x7cm transparency film, specifically Fuji Velvia 50. In a medium format camera there is no digital camera priced at less than, say, $20,000, that can approach the quality you will get out of this film.
You can sort slides faster than digital--just throw a hundred or so of them on a light table and grab your loupe.
If you put a scratch in the back side of a slide, you can put a little Edwal No-Scratch on it and print with impunity. Put a scratch on the back of the CD that has your digital images and see what happens.
You don't have to worry that Adobe is going to supersede the file format your slides are in and render all your work unreadable.
If you're out shooting digital in the middle of Timbuktu and fill up your camera's memory cards, you're pretty much out of luck if you didn't bring a laptop with you--roadside gas stations usually don't sell memory cards. If I'm out shooting film and run out (and that would be a feat to remember, because I can't remember the last time I went out shooting with less than a brick of film in my possession) every gas station and grocery store in the known universe has 35mm film.
And here's the kicker: If you for some reason have a great digital picture and you need it bigger than your image size will allow--maybe you want a 20x24 to hang over the sofa--you're basically screwed. If I want to print a 20x24 off one of my images, I just run the head of the enlarger up higher.
Digital has a place--it's good for fun snaps you'll print a couple of times but don't really care about. If you go to the club with your friends and want to take pictures to remember the evening, yes definitely carry a digital camera. But for archival work, wet process is the ONLY way to fly.
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| -Genealogists trying to stop the planned destruction of 2010 census images. |
madfloridian |
Mar-01-10 04:20 PM |
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K&R |
lazarus |
Mar-01-10 04:26 PM |
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Finding family on a census is a special moment. |
madfloridian |
Mar-01-10 04:33 PM |
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I hope the genealogists fail. The census was never meant for them to exploit. |
Towlie |
Mar-02-10 09:04 AM |
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I can't believe what you are saying. How inhumane. The census has a 70 year lock |
peacetalksforall |
Mar-02-10 09:19 AM |
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What is not legitimate about census data? |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-02-10 10:58 AM |
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I second Raleigh's comment. My family is extremely grateful for the genealogy work I've done. |
bulloney |
Mar-02-10 11:55 AM |
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Passing a law restricting census data for 40 years would be a drastic shortening of the lock time |
Posteritatis |
Mar-02-10 12:15 PM |
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Thanks - so I discovered reading further on. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-04-10 09:35 AM |
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My family data is on those findings and maybe you can have them |
jwirr |
Mar-02-10 12:57 PM |
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I agree, my mother is 91 and she was in the 1920 census |
goclark |
Mar-02-10 06:55 PM |
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"Exploit"? That is a bizarre choice of words. |
WinkyDink |
Mar-02-10 06:50 PM |
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Okay I'll bite. |
madfloridian |
Mar-01-10 04:34 PM |
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Can't imagine the reasons for the unrecs but what concerns me |
Fire1 |
Mar-01-10 04:47 PM |
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It's to stop ACORN from turning us all into negroes, or something |
nxylas |
Mar-02-10 06:38 AM |
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The 1890 census records were burned, but not intentionally. |
Gormy Cuss |
Mar-01-10 04:42 PM |
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The last time I went to the archives building, I was informed that |
Shell Beau |
Mar-01-10 08:15 PM |
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Yeah, that's to protect privacy. |
Gormy Cuss |
Mar-01-10 09:01 PM |
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I bet. That is pretty cool. |
Shell Beau |
Mar-01-10 09:26 PM |
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I don't see a need to destroy them either |
kctim |
Mar-01-10 04:46 PM |
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too bad my privacy more important than some hobbyist's family tree, sheesh |
pitohui |
Mar-01-10 04:47 PM |
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To many people and cultures, lineage is more than a mere |
Fire1 |
Mar-01-10 04:51 PM |
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Then let them sign an option to keep their own records safe |
Cronus Protagonist |
Mar-01-10 05:03 PM |
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For most, it's not a hobby, it's about knowing where one came from |
KingFlorez |
Mar-01-10 04:56 PM |
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Plus there is really only the most basic of information in most census years. |
csziggy |
Mar-02-10 01:38 AM |
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Wow! What an unpleasant post. |
madfloridian |
Mar-01-10 05:00 PM |
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Do you know that the Census records are not made available to the public for 72 years? |
LiberalFighter |
Mar-01-10 05:26 PM |
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To check out the claims that some people were making |
pipi_k |
Mar-01-10 05:48 PM |
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I was looking at the 1930 census recently |
dalaigh lllama |
Mar-01-10 07:34 PM |
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They should have box to indicate if an idiot lives in the home. |
LiberalFighter |
Mar-01-10 08:03 PM |
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Actually one of the census records I got from Indiana did record |
jwirr |
Mar-02-10 01:15 PM |
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I know. |
LiberalFighter |
Mar-01-10 07:58 PM |
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There were a few yearbook panics in my hometown a few years ago actually |
Posteritatis |
Mar-01-10 08:06 PM |
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Oh geez...Obituaries! |
pipi_k |
Mar-01-10 08:22 PM |
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For anyone who does want to see the questions, here is a link to them |
csziggy |
Mar-02-10 01:41 AM |
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Thanks. Appreciate the link. |
madfloridian |
Mar-02-10 07:20 AM |
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I agree |
Duchess |
Mar-01-10 05:54 PM |
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It's not just Geneology. It's History. |
verges |
Mar-02-10 10:32 AM |
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There are legitimate uses for family histories |
WolverineDG |
Mar-01-10 06:20 PM |
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The records aren't open to the public for 70 years |
dalaigh lllama |
Mar-01-10 07:22 PM |
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I just don't get that. By the time your records are available, you'll |
Shell Beau |
Mar-01-10 08:17 PM |
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Chances are good that you'll be dead before 2010 microdata is released to the public |
Gormy Cuss |
Mar-01-10 09:03 PM |
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Well lah-dee-dah. The US census is actually a requirement of the US Constitution... |
Hekate |
Mar-02-10 01:13 AM |
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Fiddle dee dee |
Tsiyu |
Mar-02-10 09:01 PM |
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That's pretty silly, I would say |
Spider Jerusalem |
Mar-02-10 02:55 AM |
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I Think You May be Underestimating the Relevance |
On the Road |
Mar-02-10 06:46 PM |
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Are you sure you know what you mean when you say 'public records'? |
peacetalksforall |
Mar-02-10 09:36 AM |
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Sheesh. |
verges |
Mar-02-10 10:28 AM |
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WTF? Family secrets? |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-02-10 11:12 AM |
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The 1921 fire that destroyed the 1890 census was accidental |
dragonlady |
Mar-01-10 04:52 PM |
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They should be retained |
KingFlorez |
Mar-01-10 04:52 PM |
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Why are they going to save the images on microfilm? |
LiberalFighter |
Mar-01-10 05:10 PM |
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PDFs won't be readable in seventy years; microfilm will |
Posteritatis |
Mar-01-10 08:04 PM |
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This is another reason I really dislike digital cameras |
jmowreader |
Mar-02-10 09:32 AM |
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A high-end digital camera |
verges |
Mar-02-10 10:40 AM |
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You still have the problem of keeping the "negatives" around long-term |
Posteritatis |
Mar-02-10 12:05 PM |
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I agree. |
verges |
Mar-02-10 12:55 PM |
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Yeah, a $20,000 Hasselblad D-SLR might be as good as a $700 Nikon SLR. |
WinkyDink |
Mar-02-10 06:55 PM |
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YOUR standard photography, maybe... |
jmowreader |
Mar-02-10 08:48 PM |
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Electronic data is not only not stable, it is often not reliably transferable to new computers.... |
Hekate |
Mar-02-10 01:23 AM |
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Digital media deteriorates! |
verges |
Mar-02-10 10:37 AM |
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Not to mention the extinction of letter-writing. And now Tweets are surpassing even e-mails. |
WinkyDink |
Mar-02-10 06:57 PM |
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There is nothing permanent about computer images. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-02-10 11:23 AM |
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I have had to use to records for my job at times, and they |
Shell Beau |
Mar-01-10 08:12 PM |
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I think this country has gone mad. My mom wrote 5 genealogy books of the family lines... |
Hekate |
Mar-02-10 01:04 AM |
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In the age of .pdf, why do this??? |
JCMach1 |
Mar-02-10 01:20 AM |
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Because PDFs are terrible for archival purposes. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Mar-02-10 12:11 PM |
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If the data is archived anyway, does it matter if the forms themselves are tossed? nt |
bos1 |
Mar-02-10 04:29 AM |
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Yes. |
madfloridian |
Mar-02-10 07:25 AM |
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The data will not be available to the public after the waiting period? nt |
bos1 |
Mar-02-10 09:59 AM |
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The "data" is just numbers. |
madfloridian |
Mar-02-10 10:21 AM |
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Really? The data being archived does not include names? |
bos1 |
Mar-02-10 04:38 PM |
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Census records are kept sealed for 72 years... |
rasputin1952 |
Mar-02-10 05:50 AM |
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Considering What this Census Process Costs |
Demeter |
Mar-02-10 06:35 AM |
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I started family history using census records - the research was the greatest |
peacetalksforall |
Mar-02-10 09:48 AM |
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if they destroy it who in the future can question redistricting and the fraud of our elections? |
flyarm |
Mar-02-10 11:34 AM |
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That thought went through my mind as well. I am disgusted at the madness of our worship of... |
Hekate |
Mar-02-10 02:19 PM |
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Michelle Bachman doesn't want anyone tracing her ancestors... |
progressoid |
Mar-02-10 11:37 AM |
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This is insane. They have no reason to do this what so ever. |
jwirr |
Mar-02-10 12:50 PM |
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Penny wise, pound foolish. Destroy history; it's what Fascists like to do. |
WinkyDink |
Mar-02-10 06:49 PM |
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Oh that's sickening |
JustAnotherGen |
Mar-02-10 07:32 PM |
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