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verges Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 10:28 AM
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52. Sheesh.
1) the information isn't available "publicly" for 70 years!
2) they are also a precious resource for historians.
3) furure generations should be denied the right to geneologica information just because Great-grandparents weren't interested?
4) Believe it or not, future generations might actually find "scandals" a little bit interesting WITHOUT putting a value judgement on it. It helps round out the names on a list into more than names on a list!
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  -Genealogists trying to stop the planned destruction of 2010 census images. madfloridian  Mar-01-10 04:20 PM   #0 
  - K&R  lazarus   Mar-01-10 04:26 PM   #1 
  - Finding family on a census is a special moment.  madfloridian   Mar-01-10 04:33 PM   #2 
     - I hope the genealogists fail. The census was never meant for them to exploit.  Towlie   Mar-02-10 09:04 AM   #45 
        - I can't believe what you are saying. How inhumane. The census has a 70 year lock  peacetalksforall   Mar-02-10 09:19 AM   #46 
        - What is not legitimate about census data?  RaleighNCDUer   Mar-02-10 10:58 AM   #56 
        - I second Raleigh's comment. My family is extremely grateful for the genealogy work I've done.  bulloney   Mar-02-10 11:55 AM   #61 
        - Passing a law restricting census data for 40 years would be a drastic shortening of the lock time  Posteritatis   Mar-02-10 12:15 PM   #64 
           - Thanks - so I discovered reading further on.  RaleighNCDUer   Mar-04-10 09:35 AM   #80 
        - My family data is on those findings and maybe you can have them  jwirr   Mar-02-10 12:57 PM   #67 
        - I agree, my mother is 91 and she was in the 1920 census  goclark   Mar-02-10 06:55 PM   #75 
        - "Exploit"? That is a bizarre choice of words.  WinkyDink   Mar-02-10 06:50 PM   #73 
  - Okay I'll bite.  madfloridian   Mar-01-10 04:34 PM   #3 
  - Can't imagine the reasons for the unrecs but what concerns me  Fire1   Mar-01-10 04:47 PM   #7 
     - It's to stop ACORN from turning us all into negroes, or something  nxylas   Mar-02-10 06:38 AM   #42 
  - The 1890 census records were burned, but not intentionally.  Gormy Cuss   Mar-01-10 04:42 PM   #4 
  - The last time I went to the archives building, I was informed that  Shell Beau   Mar-01-10 08:15 PM   #26 
     - Yeah, that's to protect privacy.  Gormy Cuss   Mar-01-10 09:01 PM   #29 
        - I bet. That is pretty cool.  Shell Beau   Mar-01-10 09:26 PM   #31 
  - I don't see a need to destroy them either  kctim   Mar-01-10 04:46 PM   #5 
  - too bad my privacy more important than some hobbyist's family tree, sheesh  pitohui   Mar-01-10 04:47 PM   #6 
  - To many people and cultures, lineage is more than a mere  Fire1   Mar-01-10 04:51 PM   #8 
  - Then let them sign an option to keep their own records safe  Cronus Protagonist   Mar-01-10 05:03 PM   #13 
  - For most, it's not a hobby, it's about knowing where one came from  KingFlorez   Mar-01-10 04:56 PM   #11 
  - Plus there is really only the most basic of information in most census years.  csziggy   Mar-02-10 01:38 AM   #36 
  - Wow! What an unpleasant post.  madfloridian   Mar-01-10 05:00 PM   #12 
  - Do you know that the Census records are not made available to the public for 72 years?  LiberalFighter   Mar-01-10 05:26 PM   #15 
  - To check out the claims that some people were making  pipi_k   Mar-01-10 05:48 PM   #16 
     - I was looking at the 1930 census recently  dalaigh lllama   Mar-01-10 07:34 PM   #20 
     - They should have box to indicate if an idiot lives in the home.  LiberalFighter   Mar-01-10 08:03 PM   #22 
        - Actually one of the census records I got from Indiana did record  jwirr   Mar-02-10 01:15 PM   #68 
     - I know.  LiberalFighter   Mar-01-10 07:58 PM   #21 
     - There were a few yearbook panics in my hometown a few years ago actually  Posteritatis   Mar-01-10 08:06 PM   #24 
     - Oh geez...Obituaries!  pipi_k   Mar-01-10 08:22 PM   #28 
     - For anyone who does want to see the questions, here is a link to them  csziggy   Mar-02-10 01:41 AM   #37 
        - Thanks. Appreciate the link.  madfloridian   Mar-02-10 07:20 AM   #43 
  - I agree  Duchess   Mar-01-10 05:54 PM   #17 
  - It's not just Geneology. It's History.  verges   Mar-02-10 10:32 AM   #53 
  - There are legitimate uses for family histories  WolverineDG   Mar-01-10 06:20 PM   #18 
  - The records aren't open to the public for 70 years  dalaigh lllama   Mar-01-10 07:22 PM   #19 
  - I just don't get that. By the time your records are available, you'll  Shell Beau   Mar-01-10 08:17 PM   #27 
  - Chances are good that you'll be dead before 2010 microdata is released to the public  Gormy Cuss   Mar-01-10 09:03 PM   #30 
  - Well lah-dee-dah. The US census is actually a requirement of the US Constitution...  Hekate   Mar-02-10 01:13 AM   #33 
  - Fiddle dee dee  Tsiyu   Mar-02-10 09:01 PM   #79 
  - That's pretty silly, I would say  Spider Jerusalem   Mar-02-10 02:55 AM   #38 
  - I Think You May be Underestimating the Relevance  On the Road   Mar-02-10 06:46 PM   #71 
  - Are you sure you know what you mean when you say 'public records'?  peacetalksforall   Mar-02-10 09:36 AM   #48 
  - Sheesh.  verges   Mar-02-10 10:28 AM   #52 
  - WTF? Family secrets?  RaleighNCDUer   Mar-02-10 11:12 AM   #57 
  - The 1921 fire that destroyed the 1890 census was accidental  dragonlady   Mar-01-10 04:52 PM   #9 
  - They should be retained  KingFlorez   Mar-01-10 04:52 PM   #10 
  - Why are they going to save the images on microfilm?  LiberalFighter   Mar-01-10 05:10 PM   #14 
  - PDFs won't be readable in seventy years; microfilm will  Posteritatis   Mar-01-10 08:04 PM   #23 
  - This is another reason I really dislike digital cameras  jmowreader   Mar-02-10 09:32 AM   #47 
     - A high-end digital camera  verges   Mar-02-10 10:40 AM   #55 
        - You still have the problem of keeping the "negatives" around long-term  Posteritatis   Mar-02-10 12:05 PM   #62 
        - I agree.  verges   Mar-02-10 12:55 PM   #66 
           - Yeah, a $20,000 Hasselblad D-SLR might be as good as a $700 Nikon SLR.  WinkyDink   Mar-02-10 06:55 PM   #74 
        - YOUR standard photography, maybe...  jmowreader   Mar-02-10 08:48 PM   #78 
  - Electronic data is not only not stable, it is often not reliably transferable to new computers....  Hekate   Mar-02-10 01:23 AM   #35 
  - Digital media deteriorates!  verges   Mar-02-10 10:37 AM   #54 
  - Not to mention the extinction of letter-writing. And now Tweets are surpassing even e-mails.  WinkyDink   Mar-02-10 06:57 PM   #76 
  - There is nothing permanent about computer images.  RaleighNCDUer   Mar-02-10 11:23 AM   #58 
  - I have had to use to records for my job at times, and they  Shell Beau   Mar-01-10 08:12 PM   #25 
  - I think this country has gone mad. My mom wrote 5 genealogy books of the family lines...  Hekate   Mar-02-10 01:04 AM   #32 
  - In the age of .pdf, why do this???  JCMach1   Mar-02-10 01:20 AM   #34 
  - Because PDFs are terrible for archival purposes. (nt)  Posteritatis   Mar-02-10 12:11 PM   #63 
  - If the data is archived anyway, does it matter if the forms themselves are tossed? nt  bos1   Mar-02-10 04:29 AM   #39 
  - Yes.  madfloridian   Mar-02-10 07:25 AM   #44 
     - The data will not be available to the public after the waiting period? nt  bos1   Mar-02-10 09:59 AM   #50 
        - The "data" is just numbers.  madfloridian   Mar-02-10 10:21 AM   #51 
           - Really? The data being archived does not include names?  bos1   Mar-02-10 04:38 PM   #70 
  - Census records are kept sealed for 72 years...  rasputin1952   Mar-02-10 05:50 AM   #40 
  - Considering What this Census Process Costs  Demeter   Mar-02-10 06:35 AM   #41 
  - I started family history using census records - the research was the greatest  peacetalksforall   Mar-02-10 09:48 AM   #49 
  - if they destroy it who in the future can question redistricting and the fraud of our elections?  flyarm   Mar-02-10 11:34 AM   #59 
  - That thought went through my mind as well. I am disgusted at the madness of our worship of...  Hekate   Mar-02-10 02:19 PM   #69 
  - Michelle Bachman doesn't want anyone tracing her ancestors...  progressoid   Mar-02-10 11:37 AM   #60 
  - This is insane. They have no reason to do this what so ever.  jwirr   Mar-02-10 12:50 PM   #65 
  - Penny wise, pound foolish. Destroy history; it's what Fascists like to do.  WinkyDink   Mar-02-10 06:49 PM   #72 
  - Oh that's sickening  JustAnotherGen   Mar-02-10 07:32 PM   #77 

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