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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 12:18 PM
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The Freeper thread that crystalizes the right's attitude re: health care
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Edited on Sat Feb-27-10 12:19 PM by LuckyTheDog
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460403/posts

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Freedom always involves risk. And yes, some people will get more than others. But that is a SMALL price to pay for LIBERTY! We need to get the government 100% OUT of health care!

Can't pay the doc? maybe you should have planned better. If you didn't, then, you'd better hope the doc FREELY CHOOSES to help you at no charge because you have ZERO claim on his services as a "right." Otherwise, your next line of defense is charity -- which should be REAL charity based on donations freely made and not FORCED taxation. You also are always free to treat yourself for your own ailments and to PRAY TO DOCTOR GOD for healing. God's healing can come through direct miracles of by God's direction to charities and health care providers to help you.

If you TRUST IN GOD, then you can be sure that He WILL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION and bring you what you need/deserve when you need/deserve it -- even if it isn't what you THINK you want.

In the end, free people are called to live with the consequences of their OWN ACTIONS and the judgement of ALMIGHTY GOD. Government has NO RIGHT to interfere with that process!

Yes, I WOULD rather die than receive KenyanCare. Absolutely. God has more wisdom than all the death panels put together!

by USALiberty


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Congressman Anthony Weiner has said that health care is not a commodity. If it isn't a commodity then do doctors and nurses have rights? Assigning health care the status of a right makes health care workers slaves to that right who must serve it. On what ground could a health care worker refuse to provide their products and services since that would violate the patient's "basic human right to health care."

That is a direct loss of individual rights for health care providers. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set fees and hours or to change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge if taken to its logical extreme. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is created and given by the government to those it chooses to give it to. It is not a natural right possessed by each person protected by the Constitution from the government. It is also a collective/state right by virtue of the fact that it would supersede individual rights when the two come into conflict. How else would the government view a right that it created and administers vs. one it has no control over?

Of course it isn't stated in any bill that a patient's right to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights, as always, are adjudicated in the courts. The Health Care Reform bills simply establish the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the collective right.

by TigersEye
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