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Thu Feb-25-10 09:52 AM
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and the revolutionary zeal lasted until the mid 70s. They were mostly trash talking PIAs but they scared the hell out of reasonable people. Then everybody either moved someplace they could have an organic garden and kids or bit the bullet and took a corporate job. I did both but had to ditch the corporate job, it gave me gas.
A lot of us wanted to distance ourselves from the screamers although we remained quietly radical. We pretty much waited for it to all die down and then got socked with Reaganism, as much a reaction against the screamers as the election of Nixon had been.
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| -"Today’s New Right looks a lot like the New Left of the ’60s" - your take? |
WilliamPitt |
Feb-25-10 06:22 AM |
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The ONLY thing I see in common is some degree of anger at the establishment |
depakid |
Feb-25-10 06:25 AM |
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The tea party has a demographic problem. |
Bosso 63 |
Feb-25-10 07:21 AM |
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The whole comparison is insulting. |
mmonk |
Feb-25-10 06:30 AM |
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I agree-- it's insulting |
Art_from_Ark |
Feb-25-10 06:35 AM |
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We were the ones that brought forth the advancement |
mmonk |
Feb-25-10 06:44 AM |
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Sullen, essentially hopeless anger of the Teabaggers |
Jackpine Radical |
Feb-25-10 07:27 PM |
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Exactly. They're murdering pigs. |
Zoeisright |
Feb-25-10 06:58 AM |
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You are likely right. |
wolfgangmo |
Feb-26-10 12:37 PM |
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We SDS organizers did exactly that. |
Hardrada |
Feb-26-10 12:43 PM |
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agreed n/t |
newfie11 |
Feb-25-10 08:10 AM |
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The article was making a sociological comparison, not an ideological one. |
Odin2005 |
Feb-25-10 08:17 AM |
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Nevertheless, it still doesn't work. |
Jackpine Radical |
Feb-25-10 07:29 PM |
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+1 |
Johonny |
Feb-25-10 08:55 AM |
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+1000 |
Cetacea |
Feb-25-10 08:56 AM |
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I think it's something we should learn from |
XemaSab |
Feb-26-10 01:17 PM |
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Good. Maybe they'll destroy the right's cohesiveness and derail its priorities |
asthmaticeog |
Feb-25-10 06:31 AM |
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Which priority did the sixties left derail? |
Toots |
Feb-25-10 07:58 AM |
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How about the monolithic Democratic Party, that was in charge 80% of the time from 1932 |
RaleighNCDUer |
Feb-25-10 09:11 AM |
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Eh? LBJ admitted that the Civil Rights Act screwed that pooch. |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-25-10 01:56 PM |
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I totally agree with your point about the fascist structure |
XemaSab |
Feb-26-10 01:30 PM |
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The only reason the so-called Tea Party has any credibility at all |
ixion |
Feb-25-10 06:33 AM |
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+1, ixion. |
Enthusiast |
Feb-25-10 07:07 AM |
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+infinity |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-25-10 07:35 AM |
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+ infinity +1 |
Richard Steele |
Feb-25-10 08:15 AM |
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+1. Everyone can just read ixion's msg above and leave this thread. Nail in coffin. n/t |
FormerDittoHead |
Feb-25-10 08:19 AM |
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we on the Left know all too well what ignoring a group can do to a movement |
fascisthunter |
Feb-25-10 08:26 AM |
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!!! |
SammyWinstonJack |
Feb-25-10 08:58 AM |
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I'd go so far as to say the "tea party" is a blank-canvass/bogeyman |
Romulox |
Feb-25-10 09:31 AM |
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I believe the political term is "neoliberals". I think we ought start............ |
pattmarty |
Feb-25-10 02:12 PM |
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+1 for popinjay |
arcadian |
Feb-25-10 09:26 PM |
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lol |
ixion |
Feb-26-10 05:42 AM |
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Thank you. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-26-10 01:16 PM |
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I wrote something similar a month or so ago about the left/right similarity |
Warpy |
Feb-25-10 06:36 AM |
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Given that most of these teabaggers seem to be Boomers I think it's an interesting mirror image. |
Odin2005 |
Feb-25-10 08:20 AM |
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Boomers haven't gone into retirement in significant numbers yet |
Warpy |
Feb-25-10 08:25 AM |
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You mean what is often called the Silent Generation? |
Odin2005 |
Feb-25-10 08:31 AM |
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Repeating a lie doesn't make it come true |
Warpy |
Feb-25-10 08:34 AM |
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Maybe I'm misremembering things, I swear I saw a lot of people in their 50s and 60s... |
Odin2005 |
Feb-25-10 08:42 AM |
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They all looked mid 60s to mid 70s to me. |
Warpy |
Feb-25-10 09:04 AM |
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Some boomers were like Ted Nugent or Jane Fonda |
Urban Prairie |
Feb-25-10 11:09 AM |
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I don't know if it's fair to compare Nugent or Fonda? A more apt person would........... |
pattmarty |
Feb-25-10 02:34 PM |
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Ummm....Jane Fonda is not a conservative |
RFKHumphreyObama |
Feb-25-10 09:45 PM |
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Jane Fonda was born in 1938, hence, not a Boomer. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-26-10 01:58 PM |
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Generation Suck. LOL! |
catbyte |
Feb-25-10 10:47 AM |
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I am a War Child. Born just between the Organization Men |
Hardrada |
Feb-26-10 12:56 PM |
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IMO, by the mid-70s, and |
Urban Prairie |
Feb-25-10 08:34 AM |
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Most Boomers didn't do nearly as well economically as the characters in |
raccoon |
Feb-25-10 09:07 AM |
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No kidding, they were all rich and skinny |
Warpy |
Feb-25-10 01:59 PM |
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I hated "30something"also, Same people. |
Hardrada |
Feb-26-10 12:48 PM |
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A lot of us hit the job market just as wages stopped keeping up with CoL. |
EFerrari |
Feb-25-10 08:42 PM |
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I was in Boston |
Warpy |
Feb-25-10 09:52 AM |
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The difference is, many on the Right are heavily armed, and have already assassinated people |
leveymg |
Feb-25-10 06:46 AM |
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This is the important missing piece |
zipplewrath |
Feb-25-10 07:36 AM |
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Blaming the victim for not leaving |
harkadog |
Feb-25-10 09:19 PM |
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I didn't say it was "his fault". You did. And, I'm not apologizing for the Weathermen bombings. |
leveymg |
Feb-26-10 07:16 AM |
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This is the link to the SF bombing |
harkadog |
Feb-26-10 12:27 PM |
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That article is dated March 12, 2009. Anything since then? |
leveymg |
Feb-26-10 02:26 PM |
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I have nothing more recent |
harkadog |
Feb-26-10 02:35 PM |
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I don't think Robert Fassnacht "refused to vacate." |
Jackpine Radical |
Feb-26-10 12:37 PM |
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There were many previous bomb threats. |
leveymg |
Feb-26-10 02:28 PM |
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180 degrees |
timtom |
Feb-25-10 06:54 AM |
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The 60s was different in that the masses of people involved. |
OHdem10 |
Feb-25-10 07:01 AM |
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Insulting. nt |
Enthusiast |
Feb-25-10 07:02 AM |
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Looks like they skipped Woodstock and went straight for Altamont |
Champion Jack |
Feb-25-10 07:07 AM |
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Good one! |
Cetacea |
Feb-25-10 08:53 AM |
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dupe |
Cetacea |
Feb-25-10 08:55 AM |
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ya right..... |
madrchsod |
Feb-25-10 07:18 AM |
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Analogy Fail |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-25-10 07:36 AM |
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New Left didn't have corporate funding. /nt |
philly_bob |
Feb-25-10 07:38 AM |
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all you need is love vs. all you need is hate |
spanone |
Feb-25-10 07:51 AM |
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They are slightly similar, on the surface |
CHelms |
Feb-25-10 08:10 AM |
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Only in as much as they're angry and express distrust of their govt. |
damyank913 |
Feb-25-10 08:14 AM |
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Good article. |
Odin2005 |
Feb-25-10 08:14 AM |
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The "60s movement" it most closely resembles would be the KKK. |
bullwinkle428 |
Feb-25-10 08:15 AM |
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The tea party is disenchanted republicans who lost their jobs |
Kokonoe |
Feb-25-10 08:20 AM |
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No, the "New Right" looks a lot like the "Old Right" of the 60s.... |
Richard Steele |
Feb-25-10 08:22 AM |
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YAF |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-25-10 08:27 AM |
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It does seem that the Teabaggers |
Art_from_Ark |
Feb-25-10 08:22 PM |
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Yeah. I have a BIL who has been a consistent racist gun nut |
Hardrada |
Feb-26-10 01:04 PM |
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The bulk of the Tea Baggers |
The Wizard |
Feb-25-10 08:25 AM |
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"Hated them for their freedom" LOL, epic win! |
Odin2005 |
Feb-25-10 08:32 AM |
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Right on man, groovy! |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-25-10 08:26 AM |
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Well, now and then one needs to see an incoherent argument just so you know what one looks like |
ThomWV |
Feb-25-10 08:39 AM |
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The best response on the thread. |
David Zephyr |
Feb-25-10 03:32 PM |
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Wait... You mean this wasn't The Onion? |
The_Commonist |
Feb-25-10 08:45 AM |
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The far Right fringe is unstable, lacking empathy and heavily armed. And more easily lead |
KittyWampus |
Feb-25-10 08:54 AM |
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Such bullshit |
whatchamacallit |
Feb-25-10 09:27 AM |
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It seems to me that "New" Democrats simply haven't learned how to co-opt this right wing |
Romulox |
Feb-25-10 09:29 AM |
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T-baggers are owned and financed by the right wing elites . . . |
defendandprotect |
Feb-25-10 09:45 AM |
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I hope so. The New Left was fucking useless. nt |
anonymous171 |
Feb-25-10 10:49 AM |
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Oh that's harsh. Look at all we accomplished: |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-25-10 01:46 PM |
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Further weak, drastically misguided attempts to align TBs w/the left |
Echo In Light |
Feb-25-10 10:50 AM |
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It's true that in the 60s "The Movement" contained many disparate groups. |
Jim__ |
Feb-25-10 10:56 AM |
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Will, I was actually AROUND in the 60's |
placton |
Feb-25-10 11:51 AM |
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It wasn't my comparison. |
WilliamPitt |
Feb-25-10 12:21 PM |
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"but OUR causes were many" |
G_j |
Feb-25-10 11:57 AM |
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Sorta like comparing Mussolini's march on Rome to Gandhi's march to the sea. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Feb-25-10 11:58 AM |
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thank you! |
G_j |
Feb-25-10 12:00 PM |
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Yes, My Thelonious-loving brother! |
Prof Lester |
Feb-26-10 12:22 PM |
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Not really |
KingFlorez |
Feb-25-10 02:03 PM |
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I'm going to disagree. |
cornermouse |
Feb-25-10 02:11 PM |
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No fucking way. |
Blue_In_AK |
Feb-25-10 02:19 PM |
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Seriously... |
madriver |
Feb-25-10 04:17 PM |
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Yes, that's exactly on target. |
Jackpine Radical |
Feb-25-10 07:30 PM |
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I think they're still the same rednecks they were in the 70s. |
RainDog |
Feb-25-10 07:50 PM |
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If the Left embraces diversity, why on earth would anyone expect us |
EFerrari |
Feb-25-10 08:25 PM |
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Yet it's odd how some DUers clearly do NOT embrace diversity |
Echo In Light |
Feb-26-10 12:30 PM |
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Yes. DU is now huge so, we can count on our statistical share of |
EFerrari |
Feb-26-10 02:37 PM |
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And then some...depending upon the topic at hand |
Echo In Light |
Feb-26-10 02:41 PM |
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Bullshit. |
bemildred |
Feb-25-10 08:43 PM |
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the teabaggers are the mullet of political movements |
RainDog |
Feb-25-10 10:18 PM |
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Except for the difference between Love and Hate, you mean? |
annabanana |
Feb-26-10 05:43 AM |
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Perhaps the same dynamics but much different goals. |
zeemike |
Feb-26-10 07:49 AM |
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Can/t believe I see a Will Pitts post at |
zeemike |
Feb-26-10 08:00 AM |
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'Baggers hate African Americans. Period. |
Prof Lester |
Feb-26-10 12:29 PM |
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I believe all the ideologies in the New Left mentioned in your OP had a common basis |
laughingliberal |
Feb-26-10 12:34 PM |
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Oh yeah? Show us their Baez or Dylan or Lennon! |
Hardrada |
Feb-26-10 01:10 PM |
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we were anti practically everything the Teas are for. The only comparison |
librechik |
Feb-26-10 01:18 PM |
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New Right VS, 60's new Left |
lotuspetal |
Feb-26-10 01:46 PM |
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