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Thu Feb-25-10 08:14 AM
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| Only in as much as they're angry and express distrust of their govt. |
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Otherwise it's apples and oranges.
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| -"Today’s New Right looks a lot like the New Left of the ’60s" - your take? |
WilliamPitt |
Feb-25-10 06:22 AM |
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The ONLY thing I see in common is some degree of anger at the establishment |
depakid |
Feb-25-10 06:25 AM |
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The tea party has a demographic problem. |
Bosso 63 |
Feb-25-10 07:21 AM |
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The whole comparison is insulting. |
mmonk |
Feb-25-10 06:30 AM |
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I agree-- it's insulting |
Art_from_Ark |
Feb-25-10 06:35 AM |
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We were the ones that brought forth the advancement |
mmonk |
Feb-25-10 06:44 AM |
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Sullen, essentially hopeless anger of the Teabaggers |
Jackpine Radical |
Feb-25-10 07:27 PM |
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Exactly. They're murdering pigs. |
Zoeisright |
Feb-25-10 06:58 AM |
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You are likely right. |
wolfgangmo |
Feb-26-10 12:37 PM |
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We SDS organizers did exactly that. |
Hardrada |
Feb-26-10 12:43 PM |
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agreed n/t |
newfie11 |
Feb-25-10 08:10 AM |
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The article was making a sociological comparison, not an ideological one. |
Odin2005 |
Feb-25-10 08:17 AM |
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Nevertheless, it still doesn't work. |
Jackpine Radical |
Feb-25-10 07:29 PM |
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+1 |
Johonny |
Feb-25-10 08:55 AM |
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+1000 |
Cetacea |
Feb-25-10 08:56 AM |
#49 |
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I think it's something we should learn from |
XemaSab |
Feb-26-10 01:17 PM |
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Good. Maybe they'll destroy the right's cohesiveness and derail its priorities |
asthmaticeog |
Feb-25-10 06:31 AM |
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Which priority did the sixties left derail? |
Toots |
Feb-25-10 07:58 AM |
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How about the monolithic Democratic Party, that was in charge 80% of the time from 1932 |
RaleighNCDUer |
Feb-25-10 09:11 AM |
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Eh? LBJ admitted that the Civil Rights Act screwed that pooch. |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-25-10 01:56 PM |
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I totally agree with your point about the fascist structure |
XemaSab |
Feb-26-10 01:30 PM |
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The only reason the so-called Tea Party has any credibility at all |
ixion |
Feb-25-10 06:33 AM |
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+1, ixion. |
Enthusiast |
Feb-25-10 07:07 AM |
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+infinity |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-25-10 07:35 AM |
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+ infinity +1 |
Richard Steele |
Feb-25-10 08:15 AM |
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+1. Everyone can just read ixion's msg above and leave this thread. Nail in coffin. n/t |
FormerDittoHead |
Feb-25-10 08:19 AM |
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we on the Left know all too well what ignoring a group can do to a movement |
fascisthunter |
Feb-25-10 08:26 AM |
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!!! |
SammyWinstonJack |
Feb-25-10 08:58 AM |
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I'd go so far as to say the "tea party" is a blank-canvass/bogeyman |
Romulox |
Feb-25-10 09:31 AM |
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I believe the political term is "neoliberals". I think we ought start............ |
pattmarty |
Feb-25-10 02:12 PM |
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+1 for popinjay |
arcadian |
Feb-25-10 09:26 PM |
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lol |
ixion |
Feb-26-10 05:42 AM |
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Thank you. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-26-10 01:16 PM |
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I wrote something similar a month or so ago about the left/right similarity |
Warpy |
Feb-25-10 06:36 AM |
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Given that most of these teabaggers seem to be Boomers I think it's an interesting mirror image. |
Odin2005 |
Feb-25-10 08:20 AM |
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Boomers haven't gone into retirement in significant numbers yet |
Warpy |
Feb-25-10 08:25 AM |
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You mean what is often called the Silent Generation? |
Odin2005 |
Feb-25-10 08:31 AM |
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Repeating a lie doesn't make it come true |
Warpy |
Feb-25-10 08:34 AM |
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Maybe I'm misremembering things, I swear I saw a lot of people in their 50s and 60s... |
Odin2005 |
Feb-25-10 08:42 AM |
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They all looked mid 60s to mid 70s to me. |
Warpy |
Feb-25-10 09:04 AM |
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Some boomers were like Ted Nugent or Jane Fonda |
Urban Prairie |
Feb-25-10 11:09 AM |
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I don't know if it's fair to compare Nugent or Fonda? A more apt person would........... |
pattmarty |
Feb-25-10 02:34 PM |
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Ummm....Jane Fonda is not a conservative |
RFKHumphreyObama |
Feb-25-10 09:45 PM |
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Jane Fonda was born in 1938, hence, not a Boomer. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-26-10 01:58 PM |
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Generation Suck. LOL! |
catbyte |
Feb-25-10 10:47 AM |
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I am a War Child. Born just between the Organization Men |
Hardrada |
Feb-26-10 12:56 PM |
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IMO, by the mid-70s, and |
Urban Prairie |
Feb-25-10 08:34 AM |
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Most Boomers didn't do nearly as well economically as the characters in |
raccoon |
Feb-25-10 09:07 AM |
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No kidding, they were all rich and skinny |
Warpy |
Feb-25-10 01:59 PM |
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I hated "30something"also, Same people. |
Hardrada |
Feb-26-10 12:48 PM |
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A lot of us hit the job market just as wages stopped keeping up with CoL. |
EFerrari |
Feb-25-10 08:42 PM |
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I was in Boston |
Warpy |
Feb-25-10 09:52 AM |
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The difference is, many on the Right are heavily armed, and have already assassinated people |
leveymg |
Feb-25-10 06:46 AM |
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This is the important missing piece |
zipplewrath |
Feb-25-10 07:36 AM |
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Blaming the victim for not leaving |
harkadog |
Feb-25-10 09:19 PM |
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I didn't say it was "his fault". You did. And, I'm not apologizing for the Weathermen bombings. |
leveymg |
Feb-26-10 07:16 AM |
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This is the link to the SF bombing |
harkadog |
Feb-26-10 12:27 PM |
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That article is dated March 12, 2009. Anything since then? |
leveymg |
Feb-26-10 02:26 PM |
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I have nothing more recent |
harkadog |
Feb-26-10 02:35 PM |
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I don't think Robert Fassnacht "refused to vacate." |
Jackpine Radical |
Feb-26-10 12:37 PM |
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There were many previous bomb threats. |
leveymg |
Feb-26-10 02:28 PM |
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180 degrees |
timtom |
Feb-25-10 06:54 AM |
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The 60s was different in that the masses of people involved. |
OHdem10 |
Feb-25-10 07:01 AM |
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Insulting. nt |
Enthusiast |
Feb-25-10 07:02 AM |
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Looks like they skipped Woodstock and went straight for Altamont |
Champion Jack |
Feb-25-10 07:07 AM |
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Good one! |
Cetacea |
Feb-25-10 08:53 AM |
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dupe |
Cetacea |
Feb-25-10 08:55 AM |
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ya right..... |
madrchsod |
Feb-25-10 07:18 AM |
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Analogy Fail |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-25-10 07:36 AM |
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New Left didn't have corporate funding. /nt |
philly_bob |
Feb-25-10 07:38 AM |
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all you need is love vs. all you need is hate |
spanone |
Feb-25-10 07:51 AM |
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They are slightly similar, on the surface |
CHelms |
Feb-25-10 08:10 AM |
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Only in as much as they're angry and express distrust of their govt. |
damyank913 |
Feb-25-10 08:14 AM |
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Good article. |
Odin2005 |
Feb-25-10 08:14 AM |
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The "60s movement" it most closely resembles would be the KKK. |
bullwinkle428 |
Feb-25-10 08:15 AM |
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The tea party is disenchanted republicans who lost their jobs |
Kokonoe |
Feb-25-10 08:20 AM |
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No, the "New Right" looks a lot like the "Old Right" of the 60s.... |
Richard Steele |
Feb-25-10 08:22 AM |
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YAF |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-25-10 08:27 AM |
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It does seem that the Teabaggers |
Art_from_Ark |
Feb-25-10 08:22 PM |
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Yeah. I have a BIL who has been a consistent racist gun nut |
Hardrada |
Feb-26-10 01:04 PM |
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The bulk of the Tea Baggers |
The Wizard |
Feb-25-10 08:25 AM |
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"Hated them for their freedom" LOL, epic win! |
Odin2005 |
Feb-25-10 08:32 AM |
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Right on man, groovy! |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-25-10 08:26 AM |
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Well, now and then one needs to see an incoherent argument just so you know what one looks like |
ThomWV |
Feb-25-10 08:39 AM |
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The best response on the thread. |
David Zephyr |
Feb-25-10 03:32 PM |
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Wait... You mean this wasn't The Onion? |
The_Commonist |
Feb-25-10 08:45 AM |
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The far Right fringe is unstable, lacking empathy and heavily armed. And more easily lead |
KittyWampus |
Feb-25-10 08:54 AM |
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Such bullshit |
whatchamacallit |
Feb-25-10 09:27 AM |
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It seems to me that "New" Democrats simply haven't learned how to co-opt this right wing |
Romulox |
Feb-25-10 09:29 AM |
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T-baggers are owned and financed by the right wing elites . . . |
defendandprotect |
Feb-25-10 09:45 AM |
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I hope so. The New Left was fucking useless. nt |
anonymous171 |
Feb-25-10 10:49 AM |
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Oh that's harsh. Look at all we accomplished: |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-25-10 01:46 PM |
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Further weak, drastically misguided attempts to align TBs w/the left |
Echo In Light |
Feb-25-10 10:50 AM |
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It's true that in the 60s "The Movement" contained many disparate groups. |
Jim__ |
Feb-25-10 10:56 AM |
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Will, I was actually AROUND in the 60's |
placton |
Feb-25-10 11:51 AM |
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It wasn't my comparison. |
WilliamPitt |
Feb-25-10 12:21 PM |
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"but OUR causes were many" |
G_j |
Feb-25-10 11:57 AM |
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Sorta like comparing Mussolini's march on Rome to Gandhi's march to the sea. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Feb-25-10 11:58 AM |
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thank you! |
G_j |
Feb-25-10 12:00 PM |
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Yes, My Thelonious-loving brother! |
Prof Lester |
Feb-26-10 12:22 PM |
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Not really |
KingFlorez |
Feb-25-10 02:03 PM |
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I'm going to disagree. |
cornermouse |
Feb-25-10 02:11 PM |
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No fucking way. |
Blue_In_AK |
Feb-25-10 02:19 PM |
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Seriously... |
madriver |
Feb-25-10 04:17 PM |
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Yes, that's exactly on target. |
Jackpine Radical |
Feb-25-10 07:30 PM |
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I think they're still the same rednecks they were in the 70s. |
RainDog |
Feb-25-10 07:50 PM |
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If the Left embraces diversity, why on earth would anyone expect us |
EFerrari |
Feb-25-10 08:25 PM |
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Yet it's odd how some DUers clearly do NOT embrace diversity |
Echo In Light |
Feb-26-10 12:30 PM |
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Yes. DU is now huge so, we can count on our statistical share of |
EFerrari |
Feb-26-10 02:37 PM |
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And then some...depending upon the topic at hand |
Echo In Light |
Feb-26-10 02:41 PM |
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Bullshit. |
bemildred |
Feb-25-10 08:43 PM |
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the teabaggers are the mullet of political movements |
RainDog |
Feb-25-10 10:18 PM |
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Except for the difference between Love and Hate, you mean? |
annabanana |
Feb-26-10 05:43 AM |
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Perhaps the same dynamics but much different goals. |
zeemike |
Feb-26-10 07:49 AM |
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Can/t believe I see a Will Pitts post at |
zeemike |
Feb-26-10 08:00 AM |
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'Baggers hate African Americans. Period. |
Prof Lester |
Feb-26-10 12:29 PM |
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I believe all the ideologies in the New Left mentioned in your OP had a common basis |
laughingliberal |
Feb-26-10 12:34 PM |
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Oh yeah? Show us their Baez or Dylan or Lennon! |
Hardrada |
Feb-26-10 01:10 PM |
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we were anti practically everything the Teas are for. The only comparison |
librechik |
Feb-26-10 01:18 PM |
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New Right VS, 60's new Left |
lotuspetal |
Feb-26-10 01:46 PM |
#112 |
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