Hannah Bell
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Wed Feb-24-10 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #8 |
| 13. you're right, it's only 5-13% mandated additional time for no pay. |
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Edited on Wed Feb-24-10 08:59 PM by Hannah Bell
plus two additional weeks in the summer paid at below straight time.
which = a 5% increase in days worked over their contracted term, in addition to the 5-13% added hours within the regularly contracted term.
IOW, about a months' worth of added work, all of it for free or less than straight time.
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| -The six conditions for Central Falls Teachers . . . |
mzteris |
Feb-24-10 08:21 PM |
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The teachers were perfectly willing to do these things |
baldguy |
Feb-24-10 08:27 PM |
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they weren't asked to do them "for free". . . n/t |
mzteris |
Feb-24-10 08:31 PM |
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catapulting the propaganda again? FALSE. FALSE. FALSE. |
Hannah Bell |
Feb-24-10 08:37 PM |
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They SHOULD be doing it for free.... otherwise they lose their jobs. |
DontTreadOnMe |
Feb-24-10 08:32 PM |
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Would YOU accept a 50% additional workload for no additional pay? |
baldguy |
Feb-24-10 08:35 PM |
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that is a moot point |
handmade34 |
Feb-24-10 08:39 PM |
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It's OK, really. Your boss says it's really just a 10% increase in the amount of work |
baldguy |
Feb-24-10 08:50 PM |
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you're right, it's only 5-13% mandated additional time for no pay. |
Hannah Bell |
Feb-24-10 08:55 PM |
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They are hired to teach the kids. They get paid to teach the kids. If the kids didn't learn it |
ncteechur |
Feb-24-10 09:36 PM |
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Standard Six Sigma management protocols: If it doesn't perform, get rid of it. |
baldguy |
Feb-24-10 09:42 PM |
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Or the parents. |
amandabeech |
Feb-25-10 07:57 AM |
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And the kids are not held accountable at all. |
madfloridian |
Feb-24-10 09:48 PM |
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Police are hired to eradicate crime. If there's still crime, they need to put in more free hours. |
Hannah Bell |
Feb-24-10 09:53 PM |
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Maybe we should just fire all the police. |
baldguy |
Feb-24-10 09:58 PM |
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thumbs up on that. let all those police compete as private contractors to the rich. |
Hannah Bell |
Feb-24-10 10:20 PM |
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No. They need to be fired for not eradicating crime. (n/t) |
Iggo |
Feb-25-10 01:59 PM |
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Then they can hire Cop For America! |
soleiri |
Feb-25-10 02:33 PM |
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I think the police should be required to put in another 5 hours per week in addition to their |
Hannah Bell |
Feb-24-10 08:39 PM |
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apples and oranges |
handmade34 |
Feb-24-10 08:44 PM |
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they're both public employees who haven't "succeeded" at their jobs. |
Hannah Bell |
Feb-24-10 08:49 PM |
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both police and teachers |
handmade34 |
Feb-24-10 09:46 PM |
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if it's good for teachers, it's good for police. they're FAILING. THERE'S STILL CRIME! |
Hannah Bell |
Feb-24-10 09:50 PM |
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I am familiar with Central Falls and |
handmade34 |
Feb-24-10 08:35 PM |
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thanks. |
mzteris |
Feb-24-10 11:18 PM |
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because it's true, maybe. |
Hannah Bell |
Feb-25-10 12:41 AM |
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RE: No. 6--- Just who is this "third-party"??? |
femmocrat |
Feb-24-10 08:36 PM |
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That one looks big to me too. |
Chemical Bill |
Feb-24-10 09:11 PM |
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some kangaroo court controlled by the super & her catholic school minions. |
Hannah Bell |
Feb-24-10 10:00 PM |
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As always, follow the money. |
ipaint |
Feb-25-10 12:31 AM |
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Yup: that's a huge red flag right there, IMNSHO! |
Richard Steele |
Feb-25-10 12:40 AM |
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Those conditions are expected and reasonable. If they can't accept them, fuck em. |
ncteechur |
Feb-24-10 09:38 PM |
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Reality check: a teacher can do everything he's supposed to do and a kid can still fail. |
baldguy |
Feb-24-10 10:02 PM |
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The conditions are NOT "expected". They're in violation of contracted conditions. |
Hannah Bell |
Feb-24-10 10:08 PM |
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They have to eat lunch with students? |
Quantess |
Feb-24-10 10:11 PM |
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oh, yes. it will bring their scores up immediately. |
Hannah Bell |
Feb-24-10 10:19 PM |
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A contract is a contract... |
hayu_lol |
Feb-24-10 10:21 PM |
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Here's a copy - |
mzteris |
Feb-24-10 11:42 PM |
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why don't you tell us where it says: teachers & principals agree to do whatever the super says or be |
Hannah Bell |
Feb-25-10 12:44 AM |
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getting to know them - |
mzteris |
Feb-24-10 11:31 PM |
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yes, i'm sure that 30 minutes in the lunchroom will help everyone "get to know" the students they |
Hannah Bell |
Feb-25-10 12:43 AM |
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yes |
handmade34 |
Feb-25-10 08:14 AM |
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I don't think those conditions are unreasonable. And before anyone jumps |
TwilightGardener |
Feb-25-10 12:12 AM |
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it's not about what *you* think, it's about what they contracted for. |
Hannah Bell |
Feb-25-10 12:40 AM |
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No, as far as I'M concerned, in this day and age, they were lucky to have |
TwilightGardener |
Feb-25-10 08:18 AM |
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There's a real hatred of teachers, and I think misogyny underlies a lot of it, since |
Nikki Stone1 |
Feb-25-10 12:36 AM |
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don't be ridiculous - |
mzteris |
Feb-25-10 07:54 AM |
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bullshit |
DontTreadOnMe |
Feb-25-10 01:52 PM |
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Why do I suspect it all boils down to #6? (n/t) |
Iggo |
Feb-25-10 01:55 PM |
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