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50. Good question!
I hope that you have some better answers than me!

Anyone????
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  -18.6 Million Empty Homes In America, 3.5 million homeless happy_liberal  Feb-16-10 11:37 AM   #0 
  - also see:  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 11:43 AM   #1 
  - Someone needs to organize a squatting movement (nt)  DBoon   Feb-16-10 11:55 AM   #2 
  - It's already happening.  BeHereNow   Feb-16-10 11:58 AM   #3 
  - Um...those homes belong to somebody. Be it the bank or homeowners or an estate.  TwilightGardener   Feb-16-10 11:59 AM   #4 
  - I'm talking about a bailout for the people  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 12:20 PM   #9 
  - If there were a government program in place to buy your property  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 01:44 PM   #38 
  - No--I shouldn't have a problem selling it. If I did, or if it was in bad shape, then  TwilightGardener   Feb-16-10 11:04 PM   #127 
     - Thank you for your honesty; it's much appreciated.  proudohioan   Feb-17-10 09:27 AM   #136 
  - Easy solution: take them away from the thieving banks.  Vidar   Feb-16-10 02:42 PM   #61 
  - Wouldn't I love to!!!!  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 03:25 PM   #83 
  - From what I have seen..  butterfly77   Feb-16-10 07:26 PM   #118 
  - Many of those homes are abondaned...  maryf   Feb-16-10 07:47 PM   #121 
  - No--I hate to sound mean, but that house is my one big investment,  TwilightGardener   Feb-16-10 11:06 PM   #128 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-18-10 04:15 AM   #178 
  - If you give someone something  pipoman   Feb-17-10 06:29 AM   #134 
  - "Theft" from bankers is morally permissable. nt  anonymous171   Feb-17-10 12:10 PM   #144 
  - agree 100%... turnabout is fair play.* n/m  Yurovsky   Feb-20-10 07:46 AM   #193 
  - Speaking for yourself  Jax   Feb-18-10 04:13 AM   #177 
     - Only person I can speak for. If someone else doesn't give a crap  TwilightGardener   Feb-18-10 08:05 AM   #183 
  - Enough homes to take in all the homeless Americans...but they're vacant?  alp227   Feb-16-10 12:04 PM   #5 
  - 5 1/3 empty homes for every homeless person  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 01:09 PM   #17 
     - See post #4  Occulus   Feb-16-10 01:26 PM   #31 
        - Property owners are the problem? Yikes!  montanto   Feb-16-10 02:15 PM   #48 
        - They're the ones holding all the cards.  Occulus   Feb-16-10 03:02 PM   #78 
           - Yeah, I got that one right away.  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 03:28 PM   #84 
           - OFTLOF  pipoman   Feb-17-10 06:46 AM   #135 
              - Well, you have packed so many stereotypes and hate into your little screed, one  bobbolink   Feb-17-10 10:56 PM   #173 
                 - Just a realist  pipoman   Feb-18-10 05:12 AM   #179 
                    - Yes, indeedy. Teabaggers consider themselves realists, too.  bobbolink   Feb-18-10 01:35 PM   #185 
                       - Not once did I say any such thing  pipoman   Feb-18-10 07:50 PM   #186 
                          - Oh, yes, it isn't go to happen... except here and here and here...Heres your  bobbolink   Feb-19-10 01:38 PM   #187 
                             - I have no problem  pipoman   Feb-19-10 05:15 PM   #188 
                                - YOU are the one who read that into it in the first place.  bobbolink   Feb-19-10 11:09 PM   #189 
                                   - Yeah  pipoman   Feb-20-10 05:25 AM   #190 
        - Your'e right.........  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 02:22 PM   #53 
        - Wow--do you know how hard we worked to renovate my 1870's Victorian?  TwilightGardener   Feb-17-10 04:09 PM   #160 
           - Only people who have never worked for anything  pipoman   Feb-18-10 05:17 AM   #180 
              - I can almost understand if they're only talking about houses that are in such  TwilightGardener   Feb-18-10 08:07 AM   #184 
  - unfortunately, empty homes don't last.  endless october   Feb-16-10 12:04 PM   #6 
  - There are also homeless people "falling in from lack of heat during the winter."  bobbolink   Feb-16-10 01:16 PM   #19 
     - This is a matter of life and death!  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 01:20 PM   #27 
     - It just doesn't seem to be a matter of urgency for most "progressives".  bobbolink   Feb-16-10 01:27 PM   #32 
     - just because there's a house- it doesn't mean that there's heat.  dysfunctional press   Feb-16-10 06:33 PM   #110 
  - These numbers don't make a lot of sense to me.  CanonRay   Feb-16-10 12:05 PM   #7 
  - but the rental vacancy rate is high, they say  grasswire   Feb-16-10 12:10 PM   #8 
  - That's what I ended up doing...  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 01:08 PM   #16 
     - I'm glad you found a solution! Unfortunately, there really aren't individual solutions...  bobbolink   Feb-16-10 01:19 PM   #24 
        - Thank you, bobbolink!  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 01:40 PM   #36 
           - 34,900!!! I think the govt. could afford quite a few houses at that rate...  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 01:58 PM   #43 
           - Good question!  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 02:19 PM   #50 
           - Of course its a place to start! BUT, do you see that kind of interest here?  bobbolink   Feb-16-10 02:04 PM   #45 
              - I see two of us with that kind of interest..  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 02:16 PM   #49 
                 - I hope sincerely that you decide to take on that agenda, because it is an unpopular one  bobbolink   Feb-16-10 02:24 PM   #54 
                    - Well hell, honey, I ain't too sexy either!!!!  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 02:40 PM   #60 
                       - .  bobbolink   Feb-16-10 02:48 PM   #63 
                          - No, as far as I know, I'm here and your'e there.....  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 02:55 PM   #69 
                             - Edit; spellcheck; YOU"RE...  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 02:55 PM   #70 
                             - Shit, got it wrong again.  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 02:56 PM   #71 
                             - you two are cracking me up  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 05:20 PM   #103 
                                - I'm sorry.  bobbolink   Feb-16-10 06:35 PM   #112 
  - They've moved back in with family - someone who used to be in a  BR_Parkway   Feb-16-10 12:39 PM   #11 
  - "or are the homeless numbers vastly understated?"  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 01:04 PM   #14 
  - Homeless numbers are always vastly understated.  bobbolink   Feb-16-10 01:18 PM   #22 
  - Monster overhang dude..........n/t  galileoreloaded   Feb-16-10 05:36 PM   #104 
  - they are living in campers or tents or have moved in with family members or friends.  cutlassmama   Feb-16-10 06:09 PM   #105 
  - Keep in mind a lot of these homes are in ghost towns.  reformist2   Feb-16-10 12:24 PM   #10 
  - and most of them look like this...  snooper2   Feb-16-10 12:59 PM   #13 
  - jobs program  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 01:06 PM   #15 
     - THANK YOU!!!!  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 01:20 PM   #26 
     - Creating jobs AND giving homeless people a HOME!  Desertrose   Feb-16-10 03:35 PM   #85 
  - It would be a start.  bobbolink   Feb-16-10 01:20 PM   #25 
  - Many would take significant renovation in order to get a Certificate of Occupancy  FarCenter   Feb-16-10 12:52 PM   #12 
  - sounds like a great jobs program!  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 01:11 PM   #18 
  - Someone has to pay the person who's new job it is to rehab the house.  Lance_Boyle   Feb-16-10 01:17 PM   #20 
  - Govt jobs program- Govt purchases foreclosed homes at auction  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 01:24 PM   #30 
  - OK, maybe you don't realize that 'the govt' is you and me - our tax $$$.  Lance_Boyle   Feb-16-10 01:33 PM   #34 
     - "Woohoo for the bankers?" They just gave them a trillion dollar bailout for NOTHING!  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 01:48 PM   #39 
     - Hey dude, CHILL!!! We are brainstorming here,  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 02:53 PM   #66 
  - Do you think that that would cost anywhere in the same ballpark  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 02:07 PM   #46 
     - Well, shitfire. ...if I can't have granite countertops, I'll stay in my car!  bobbolink   Feb-16-10 09:49 PM   #123 
        - You go, bobbolink!  proudohioan   Feb-17-10 01:09 AM   #129 
  - If enough "progressives" would start agitating for this, maybe "MAYBE" some progress could be made?  bobbolink   Feb-16-10 01:23 PM   #29 
  - So, there is a fine "progressive" initiative, is it not?  bobbolink   Feb-16-10 01:21 PM   #28 
  - That's "free" market CAPITALISM!  Joanne98   Feb-16-10 01:17 PM   #21 
  - Exactly! The solution even to asteroid impacts!  RedCloud   Feb-16-10 01:54 PM   #41 
  - Funny, I was just looking out my window and thinking the same thing...  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 01:18 PM   #23 
  - If they could be bought, renovated, and sold for a profit, they would be  FarCenter   Feb-16-10 01:31 PM   #33 
  - I would be so little compared to the amount they already have wasted  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 01:52 PM   #40 
  - It would probably cost the economy over $2 trillion to renovate them.  FarCenter   Feb-16-10 02:03 PM   #44 
     - Hate to tell you this,  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 02:28 PM   #55 
     - I think your numbers are off  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 02:32 PM   #57 
     - Oh, OK, then, you're right. Burn down the suckers. That'll be a cheap fix.  bobbolink   Feb-16-10 09:53 PM   #124 
  - Please, don't bother these folks with the details!  county worker   Feb-16-10 02:48 PM   #64 
     - Hey, I like my fantasy world very much, thank you.  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 03:01 PM   #77 
  - The houses have some market value. The owner be it a bank or whom ever wants the market value  county worker   Feb-16-10 02:44 PM   #62 
     - Actually, I was thinking more on the lines of affordable housing,  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 03:24 PM   #82 
  - And 6 people looking for a job for every job opening. We need to create jobs  change_notfinetuning   Feb-16-10 01:37 PM   #35 
  - Thank You!!!!  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 06:38 PM   #113 
  - Oh, you're just being "negative!" ...wait till all those jobs come back  Echo In Light   Feb-16-10 01:40 PM   #37 
  - This idea has a LOT of problems.  flvegan   Feb-16-10 01:55 PM   #42 
  - Would that my taxes could go to helping the homeless  SallyMander   Feb-16-10 02:09 PM   #47 
  - Thank you, Sally! Its good to know that Somebody values us!  bobbolink   Feb-16-10 09:55 PM   #125 
  - Among which are that a lot of vacant houses are in urban areas controlled by Democrats  FarCenter   Feb-16-10 02:20 PM   #51 
  - the homeless need homes, not shelters  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 02:20 PM   #52 
  - The houses may be empty but not abandon I think.  county worker   Feb-16-10 02:40 PM   #59 
  - My idea is to not put them out of their houses in the first place.  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 02:54 PM   #67 
  - Someone has to come up with the money!  county worker   Feb-16-10 03:15 PM   #81 
     - we spend $500,000 to kill each enemy soldier  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 04:29 PM   #94 
        - I understand what you are saying.  county worker   Feb-16-10 04:40 PM   #96 
           - Sounds to me like you're doing what you got mad at me for doing, right?  bobbolink   Feb-17-10 10:38 AM   #138 
              - The money for helping the homeless in any way comes from taxes.  county worker   Feb-17-10 02:41 PM   #151 
                 - We need low income housing- there are employed homeless people  happy_liberal   Feb-17-10 02:59 PM   #154 
                 - I agree but the housing has to be paid for also.  county worker   Feb-17-10 03:14 PM   #158 
                    - And anyone can spread lies that hurt the most vulnerable people.  bobbolink   Feb-17-10 05:33 PM   #166 
                    - Instead of $200 billion for Afghanistan, we have $200 billion for low income housing  happy_liberal   Feb-17-10 05:46 PM   #167 
                 - Oh, so there are no foundations or churches who have done anything?  bobbolink   Feb-17-10 05:30 PM   #165 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-17-10 05:56 PM   #169 
                 - "the causes of homelessness ... "  ThomCat   Feb-17-10 11:06 PM   #175 
                    - Exactly.  hunter   Feb-20-10 07:44 AM   #192 
  - Excellent idea!  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 03:38 PM   #86 
  - it depends on the homeless person in question  pitohui   Feb-17-10 02:59 PM   #155 
     - So, since you "knew" ONE person, you are projecting that onto Others?  bobbolink   Feb-17-10 06:53 PM   #170 
  - Thank you for your intelligent response.  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 02:36 PM   #58 
  - I wonder if anyone in this discussion can project into the future what will happen if their  county worker   Feb-16-10 02:31 PM   #56 
  - I'm seeing homeless people instead living in warmth and safety  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 02:49 PM   #65 
  - You are making too much sense.  bobbolink   Feb-16-10 02:56 PM   #72 
  - In some other posts I said. these homes are owned by someone.  county worker   Feb-16-10 02:57 PM   #73 
  - I'm guessing yours is a red county?  bobbolink   Feb-16-10 02:58 PM   #74 
  - No it is Santa Barbara County, CA  county worker   Feb-16-10 03:05 PM   #80 
     - I think most of us were thinking of Federal money,  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 04:37 PM   #95 
     - +1  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 05:06 PM   #99 
     - Federal money is not magical money.  OneTenthofOnePercent   Feb-16-10 05:17 PM   #101 
     - Between you and me,  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 06:31 PM   #108 
        - The bailout did not have to be done.  OneTenthofOnePercent   Feb-17-10 09:47 AM   #137 
           - I agree completely.  CrispyQ   Feb-17-10 01:55 PM   #148 
     - The federal money is passed on to the states and that is passed on to us.  county worker   Feb-16-10 06:20 PM   #106 
     - That is correct.  bobbolink   Feb-16-10 06:34 PM   #111 
  - But you assume that all homeless are jobless......  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 04:17 PM   #92 
     - Exactly right! People who are too old, too sick, too injured to work are constantly ignored.  bobbolink   Feb-17-10 12:06 PM   #141 
  - I am in that business you talk about.  county worker   Feb-16-10 03:03 PM   #79 
     - Yes, we are ALL a part of the problem....  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 06:25 PM   #107 
     - Thank you, proud! Constantly telling us it can't be done means more suffering, more death.  bobbolink   Feb-17-10 12:10 PM   #143 
     - Interesting you assume that most if not all, homeless people have "metal"illness.  bobbolink   Feb-17-10 12:07 PM   #142 
        - a great many homeless people DO have mental illness  pitohui   Feb-17-10 03:01 PM   #156 
           - about 20% have mental disability or drug problem...that's the fact...  maryf   Feb-17-10 04:03 PM   #159 
           - Thank you, Mary. The deepest hurt comes from those who call themselves "progressive"  bobbolink   Feb-17-10 05:22 PM   #164 
           - My Bad, 25% are mentally ill or addicted...many are vets...  maryf   Feb-17-10 05:50 PM   #168 
           - SIXTEEN PERCENT.  bobbolink   Feb-17-10 05:20 PM   #163 
              - I think our differential is due  maryf   Feb-17-10 08:43 PM   #171 
                 - Very true, Mary, and I suspect each source is going to report a bit of a difference.  bobbolink   Feb-17-10 10:47 PM   #172 
  - Well, I see where you're going...  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 04:01 PM   #90 
     - I work in government where these kinds of problems are addressed every day.  county worker   Feb-16-10 04:19 PM   #93 
        - Yeah, I'd love to "get into the game"....  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 07:10 PM   #115 
           - Where are you located?  county worker   Feb-17-10 02:27 PM   #150 
              - Hey, thanks for the info; I'm in Cleveland, OH...  proudohioan   Feb-18-10 04:11 AM   #176 
  - Sounds like a great fit -- !!!  defendandprotect   Feb-16-10 02:54 PM   #68 
  - OH STOP THAT! YOUR JUST MAKING SENSE AGAIN!  ddeclue   Feb-16-10 02:58 PM   #75 
  - The economy would have done much better if they'd put the money in the hands of the people!  BuelahWitch   Feb-16-10 03:48 PM   #88 
  - When this article first came out, I posted Scottsdale, AZ's solution  SoCalDem   Feb-16-10 03:00 PM   #76 
  - Where is the money coming from to buy them from the owners?  county worker   Feb-16-10 03:59 PM   #89 
     - "I" did not propose what Scottsdale IS DOING.  SoCalDem   Feb-16-10 04:03 PM   #91 
     - you inspired me to write another post  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 05:05 PM   #98 
        - Always glad to be an inspiration.  county worker   Feb-16-10 05:19 PM   #102 
  - Jerry Brown pointed this out in 1992 saying we could solve the homeless "problem"  David Zephyr   Feb-16-10 03:41 PM   #87 
  - "The truth is that it has been this way for a very long time."  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 05:13 PM   #100 
  - Obama announced 8 billion in nuclear plant loan guarantees promising "this is only the beginning"  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 04:56 PM   #97 
  - are you suggesting just turning the houses over to the homeless...?  dysfunctional press   Feb-16-10 06:31 PM   #109 
  - I'm suggesting low income housing $100 room rental, $400 house rental  happy_liberal   Feb-16-10 07:35 PM   #120 
     - we'll get there eventually...  dysfunctional press   Feb-16-10 10:26 PM   #126 
        - That is one sad story.  proudohioan   Feb-17-10 01:24 AM   #130 
           - the movie 'country' with jessica lange and sam shepherd does a good job of showing it...  dysfunctional press   Feb-17-10 10:43 AM   #139 
              - I've never actually seen that movie...  proudohioan   Feb-17-10 11:03 AM   #140 
                 - it's a drama, not a documentary...  dysfunctional press   Feb-17-10 01:18 PM   #145 
                    - I have requested it!  proudohioan   Feb-20-10 05:42 AM   #191 
  - I have a stupid question  Canuckistanian   Feb-16-10 06:39 PM   #114 
  - They are in Cleveland...  proudohioan   Feb-16-10 07:15 PM   #116 
  - But are people in Cleveland buying?  Canuckistanian   Feb-16-10 07:24 PM   #117 
     - I don't think so.  proudohioan   Feb-17-10 01:42 AM   #132 
     - The homes would not be sold, but rented for low cost  happy_liberal   Feb-17-10 02:50 PM   #152 
  - Prices have generally fallen a great deal.  Zynx   Feb-16-10 07:28 PM   #119 
  - America: What have we become?  donheld   Feb-16-10 09:35 PM   #122 
  - As much as I hate to say...  PJPhreak   Feb-17-10 01:41 AM   #131 
  - You are absolutely right.  proudohioan   Feb-17-10 02:05 AM   #133 
  - oh I agree, we need many more solutions  happy_liberal   Feb-17-10 01:20 PM   #146 
  - I have often wondered about this same thing n/t  dajoki   Feb-17-10 01:41 PM   #147 
  - nice signature line!  happy_liberal   Feb-17-10 02:02 PM   #149 
  - what common sense solution is that?  pitohui   Feb-17-10 02:53 PM   #153 
  - I am talking about the gov't buying homes at auction  happy_liberal   Feb-17-10 03:09 PM   #157 
     - If you really think this is a good idea  pipoman   Feb-18-10 05:37 AM   #182 
  - looks like someone has already started this program illegally  happy_liberal   Feb-17-10 04:41 PM   #161 
     - You're gonna get yelled at for posting a link to foxnews. People  Obamanaut   Feb-17-10 04:59 PM   #162 
     - Thanks for finding this! I suspect there is a lot of this happening in different areas.  bobbolink   Feb-17-10 11:04 PM   #174 
     - I suspect Rameau will live to regret his involvement in this scheme.  pipoman   Feb-18-10 05:24 AM   #181 
 

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