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Mon Feb-15-10 05:24 PM
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| 62. Why would being 70 prevent you from wearing shorts? |
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My mom is 70 and she wears shorts in the summer. Or do you mean "sexy tight shorts"?
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| -"Undercover Boss" at Hooters. Is this sexist and exploitation of women? |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 04:03 PM |
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As one woman on the show put it, "its degrading to women." n/t |
Fire1 |
Feb-15-10 04:07 PM |
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But it seems that poverty and not being able to feed your children |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 04:09 PM |
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Forcing women into a false choice is, too. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-15-10 04:11 PM |
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What's the false choice, the chance to make more money doing the same |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 04:13 PM |
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If it was acceptable, why was the boss putting together a |
Fire1 |
Feb-15-10 04:24 PM |
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The fact us that they are a legitimate business and pay taxes like |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 04:26 PM |
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That's one incident and your experience. I've eaten there |
Fire1 |
Feb-15-10 04:51 PM |
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Hmm. No, it was a series of experiences that culminated in that. |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 04:55 PM |
#43 |
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Still a strawman. You are one person and can't speak for |
Fire1 |
Feb-15-10 06:02 PM |
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No I can't so you win. However, this isn't about Denny's anyway.n/t |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 06:04 PM |
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I think I stated that. n/t |
Fire1 |
Feb-15-10 06:05 PM |
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You've just described it. |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-15-10 04:24 PM |
#18 |
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I don't wear shorts, but I'm seventy. |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 04:31 PM |
#26 |
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Why would being 70 prevent you from wearing shorts? |
lukasahero |
Feb-15-10 05:24 PM |
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Good for her. I prefer not to. n/t |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 05:26 PM |
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you asked why women dont want to go to hooters. it degrades. whether you like the answer or not |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 04:28 PM |
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+1 |
Echo In Light |
Feb-15-10 04:16 PM |
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prostitution will feed the kids too. and i understand why some women chose that to starving |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 04:27 PM |
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Sorry, nope, not "rethinking" it. |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-15-10 04:11 PM |
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I watched the show, too. Caught most of it anyway. I thought boss's son |
mucifer |
Feb-15-10 04:13 PM |
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I noticed the thing about the bonuses too. What I did catch though is that |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 04:15 PM |
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no these were the factory workers who lost their bonuses. I'm pretty sure he |
mucifer |
Feb-15-10 04:17 PM |
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They didn't say who did, but I agree he should reinstate the bonuses if |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 04:21 PM |
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It all comes down to choice. What's the saying about the law being |
hedgehog |
Feb-15-10 04:16 PM |
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Which brings me to the athletes. For some minorities the only way a man |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 04:20 PM |
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So, two wrongs make a right? If you haven't seen complaints about the issue you raise, |
hedgehog |
Feb-15-10 04:27 PM |
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No, I'm just saying that the people who choose to work at these jobs are |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 04:40 PM |
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when you tell men it is free game on tits and ass, there is not going ot be respect |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 04:44 PM |
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That's the guys problem if they don't have respect for women no matter |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 05:59 PM |
#82 |
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you really do miss the points |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 06:03 PM |
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Bingo! |
Political_Junkie |
Feb-15-10 05:15 PM |
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My last trip to Hooters was rather interesting... |
Contrary1 |
Feb-15-10 04:17 PM |
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So you do understand that this waitress really can't get a better job, so |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 04:23 PM |
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I have no idea if she could have gotten a better job or not... |
Contrary1 |
Feb-15-10 04:26 PM |
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Which is the reason that mostly young women do these jobs. They move |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 05:23 PM |
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They have food ? |
NM_hemilover |
Feb-15-10 05:52 PM |
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Sorry, but no. |
redqueen |
Feb-15-10 04:19 PM |
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It's a TV show...just another faux-reality show |
SoCalDem |
Feb-15-10 04:20 PM |
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the restaurant is... come enjoy the ass and tits. the intent is for ogling of ass and tits |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 04:25 PM |
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It's known as eye candy and it goes on in all types of businesses. n/t |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 04:41 PM |
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HOOTERS. tits... it is in the name. no, most business do not USE a womans part |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 04:46 PM |
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Hooters centers its whole business around it, though. I can't believe there's actually |
TwilightGardener |
Feb-15-10 06:00 PM |
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Stupid |
WitchyWoman57 |
Feb-15-10 04:31 PM |
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I have a feeling Jimbo will be seeing the unemployment line soon or |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 04:50 PM |
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I wonder how many other Jimbo's are employed |
ohheckyeah |
Feb-15-10 05:31 PM |
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There are Jimbos throughout the food/restaurant industry across the country. |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 05:39 PM |
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there are Jimbos in every industry |
gmoney |
Feb-15-10 06:19 PM |
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I agree about Jimbo - his ass should have been FIRED |
AspenRose |
Feb-15-10 06:39 PM |
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some of you need to lighten up |
Duckhunter935 |
Feb-15-10 04:37 PM |
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I think it's an interesting discussion. |
mucifer |
Feb-15-10 04:41 PM |
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the question was, is it sexist and exploitive. the quest, though degrading why dont women support |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 04:42 PM |
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You are telling women what to do. |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 04:46 PM |
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where did i tell anyone they cant do anything. point it out. nt |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 04:47 PM |
#38 |
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Read your own posts. You don't think women should do this. |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 04:53 PM |
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read my posts? it isnt in what i say... wtf? so ignore my posts and accuse inaccurately. |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 04:55 PM |
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what? Where did she say that? |
Iris |
Feb-15-10 07:42 PM |
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No she isn't. She isn't telling anyone what they can and can't do. |
Bunny |
Feb-15-10 04:52 PM |
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Well, I don't have to like the answers to get what I expected. |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 04:57 PM |
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of course. now you will conjole women to going to hooters calling them pearl clutchers |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 04:59 PM |
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Yeah... who didn't see that coming? |
redqueen |
Feb-15-10 05:02 PM |
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the DEMAND i embrace degradation and if i dont, use degradation to insist |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 05:05 PM |
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Yep. Next thing you know, we're all going to be ugly old hags who |
Bunny |
Feb-15-10 05:06 PM |
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that's right. ugly. forgot, gotta be ugly and dont get any. hm, i think this little subthread |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 05:09 PM |
#57 |
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what's puritanical about saying you think somehting is degrading? |
Iris |
Feb-15-10 07:45 PM |
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And I'm terribly disappointed that you think the problem here is puritanical Americans. |
Kalyke |
Feb-16-10 11:21 AM |
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exactly. this is the most audacious of posts i have had directed at me yet. i am specifically NOT |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 04:58 PM |
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Guess what, YOU'RE telling women what to do! |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-15-10 05:34 PM |
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No, my intent was that women who work, not only at Hooters but other |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 05:45 PM |
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Exactly! It's their choice. |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 04:43 PM |
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i can't even figure out what you are asking |
pitohui |
Feb-15-10 04:40 PM |
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What? |
WitchyWoman57 |
Feb-15-10 05:00 PM |
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Well, I guess I have been acquainted with a different group of women. |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 05:08 PM |
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That's why they eventually used an owl on their signs. |
KonaKane |
Feb-15-10 04:42 PM |
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Sure... and their waitresses are famous for their horn-rimmed glasses |
SoCalDem |
Feb-15-10 04:59 PM |
#47 |
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Pro-choice; people are free to take a job at Hooters |
stray cat |
Feb-15-10 04:59 PM |
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Thanks. |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 05:11 PM |
#58 |
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I'm not quite sure that comparing... |
LanternWaste |
Feb-15-10 05:04 PM |
#52 |
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Hooters seems to be a southern thing. Not many of them up here. |
dustbunnie |
Feb-15-10 05:06 PM |
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I guess living near and in beach towns all my life I have different |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 05:20 PM |
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it isnt about nudity |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 05:27 PM |
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The constant conflating of nudity vs. nudity used for marketing purposes |
redqueen |
Feb-15-10 05:30 PM |
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Sex sells. It's as simple as that. |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 05:50 PM |
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Exactly... which brings us back to my point re: Idiocracy. (nt) |
redqueen |
Feb-15-10 05:51 PM |
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why do you think fox grabs every story that has a naked gal being degraded |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 05:52 PM |
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Now you have something to crusade about. Go after Fox not some |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 06:03 PM |
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i am going after her now? you asked a question. you insist i give them my money |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 06:05 PM |
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Where did I say you have to give them your money? |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 06:21 PM |
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cleita, you make things up. that is not right. again, i said nothing about anyone not going |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 06:31 PM |
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No I didn't. I said reconsider referring to them as degraded. It's just a job. |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 06:39 PM |
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where did i tell other women not to go there? and where did i say their costume |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 06:49 PM |
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btw, neil cavuto? had on a couple hooter gals. the gals talked as stupid as they possibly could |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 05:56 PM |
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To prove you're not a puritan of course... |
redqueen |
Feb-15-10 06:01 PM |
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So apparently you object to women who aren't that bright either? |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 06:01 PM |
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nobody.... nobody.... is that stupid. no, i dont play fuckin games. my niece being cutsey |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 06:07 PM |
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Well... Sexism sells. It'sas simple as that too |
LanternWaste |
Feb-15-10 06:22 PM |
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"They put the FOX in Fox News!" --Written by some knuckledragger |
AspenRose |
Feb-15-10 06:44 PM |
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Where are the hot guys in tight shirts and pants on those sets? |
Gormy Cuss |
Feb-16-10 10:04 AM |
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talking to hubby this weekend. told him women sold a set of good. male naked not pretty |
seabeyond |
Feb-16-10 10:17 AM |
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When people don't buy into it, they're called bad names. |
Gormy Cuss |
Feb-16-10 10:25 AM |
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It seems that most people have no problem at all |
redqueen |
Feb-16-10 10:42 AM |
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Oh no, don't get me wrong. I don't mind it either, and people in this business -- |
dustbunnie |
Feb-15-10 05:30 PM |
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Now you are talking. Calling it a tourist trap is a valid and honest reason not to go there. |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 05:47 PM |
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There is a time and a place for every article of clothing. Just because |
hedgehog |
Feb-15-10 05:48 PM |
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Have you ever worked as a waiter? |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 05:56 PM |
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I don't get it........ |
proudohioan |
Feb-16-10 10:42 AM |
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Southern thing? |
WitchyWoman57 |
Feb-15-10 05:30 PM |
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They do? I must be really out of it then. |
dustbunnie |
Feb-15-10 05:38 PM |
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450 Hooters locations in 43 states |
Iris |
Feb-15-10 07:36 PM |
#116 |
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I had hope he would've enacted real policy changes |
Raine |
Feb-15-10 05:43 PM |
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That show was a big ratings hit after the Super Bowl last week |
NICO9000 |
Feb-15-10 05:43 PM |
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Never assume anything you see on TV, especially on a "reality" show, is real. |
MilesColtrane |
Feb-15-10 05:59 PM |
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Yeah that show sets off my bullshit detector. |
spoony |
Feb-15-10 06:12 PM |
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The show probably is being produced to show "corporate" |
Fire1 |
Feb-15-10 06:21 PM |
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This one in particular had me saying "this can't be real" |
AspenRose |
Feb-15-10 07:03 PM |
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IF it was done for show, then that is even much worse. the all collaborated to degrade female for |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 07:07 PM |
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Exactly |
MilesColtrane |
Feb-15-10 10:57 PM |
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What we need is enough economic opportunity so no one ever feels forced into degrading work |
Political Heretic |
Feb-15-10 06:03 PM |
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I don't know anyone who does waitress work who doesn't want to do it. |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 06:17 PM |
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Then you must not get out much. |
Political Heretic |
Feb-15-10 06:24 PM |
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I always liked it, but I preferred bartending. |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 06:34 PM |
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Is it "free choice" when its that or starving on the street? |
bobbolink |
Feb-15-10 06:22 PM |
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Feb-15-10 06:31 PM |
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+1 Periodic studies typically find that 80% - 90% of prostitutes want to find other work. |
phasma ex machina |
Feb-15-10 07:07 PM |
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Thanks for that... I can believe it. |
bobbolink |
Feb-15-10 07:29 PM |
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One of my best friends is a manager at a Hooters in Alabama. |
bamacrat |
Feb-15-10 07:33 PM |
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well, i am reassured to know it is ONLY the customers degrading the girls |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 07:36 PM |
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Thanks. That was basically my argument. |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 07:37 PM |
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the manager herself says only the customers DEGRADE the girls. selective reading |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 07:39 PM |
#119 |
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Yes, and my friend really likes working there. |
bamacrat |
Feb-16-10 01:33 AM |
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"He also gave her a less stressful job so she could be a better mother to her family" |
Iris |
Feb-15-10 07:34 PM |
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Well, in the case of a single mother I would say he's looking at the reality. |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 07:43 PM |
#121 |
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accommodations here generally equal career stagnation and low wages |
Iris |
Feb-15-10 07:49 PM |
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That's because it's here and we don't have equal representation where |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 08:01 PM |
#126 |
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when hasn't sex been used as a marketing tool? |
dugaresa |
Feb-15-10 07:47 PM |
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Yes, but men have the same problem too. They think they are going to |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 08:04 PM |
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to each his or her own |
Skittles |
Feb-15-10 07:51 PM |
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Well, one of the things that occurs is that with the exception of |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 08:39 PM |
#128 |
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like I said, to each their own |
Skittles |
Feb-15-10 08:46 PM |
#129 |
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And that is a perfect response because it's your choice as |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 08:57 PM |
#130 |
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no one said it was anything but a choice. no one said sluts. and no one said they have half a |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 08:59 PM |
#132 |
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the fox hooter dingbats? I think this says it all. |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 09:03 PM |
#134 |
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dear... go back to the fox news thread. i told you the girl acting dumb. the guys laughing AT |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 09:06 PM |
#136 |
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i was a waitress for years, in reno. and a bartender for a couple years. made tons of money |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 08:58 PM |
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But it's only degrading to you. |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 09:00 PM |
#133 |
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cleita, i have not said a god damn thing about the gd clothes. jeeezus |
seabeyond |
Feb-15-10 09:04 PM |
#135 |
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wrong |
Skittles |
Feb-15-10 09:18 PM |
#137 |
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Wrong. Women don't need other women telling them what is degrading. n/t |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 09:49 PM |
#139 |
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no, they do it all by themselves |
Skittles |
Feb-15-10 10:03 PM |
#141 |
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One assumption that seems to run through a lot of these posts |
hedgehog |
Feb-15-10 09:28 PM |
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I don't know. How do they treat her? |
Cleita |
Feb-15-10 09:56 PM |
#140 |
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I happened to work at a steel mill six years ago. the managers tolerated and |
hedgehog |
Feb-16-10 09:56 AM |
#149 |
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So basically you're echoing the opinions of the London women polled -- |
dustbunnie |
Feb-16-10 09:20 AM |
#146 |
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damn you had to twist a lot to associate that with the poster. what a convoluted post. nt |
seabeyond |
Feb-16-10 09:46 AM |
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Feb-16-10 09:51 AM |
#148 |
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That bothered you so I will try again, because I really would like it that you leave me alone. |
dustbunnie |
Feb-16-10 10:39 AM |
#155 |
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i did not alert. i never saw the post. quit assuming. you are ALWAYS wrong. nt |
seabeyond |
Feb-16-10 10:49 AM |
#158 |
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Google "Toy Yoda Hooters" nt |
ddeclue |
Feb-15-10 11:05 PM |
#143 |
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there is the theory that the degrading scene by manager was staged. to entertain the audience |
seabeyond |
Feb-16-10 08:25 AM |
#145 |
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My thoughts? Honestly? |
Book Lover |
Feb-16-10 10:11 AM |
#151 |
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When the office goes to lunch, the women want to go to Hooters |
itsrobert |
Feb-16-10 10:14 AM |
#152 |
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the women willingly allowed themelves to be treated like an animal to entertain audience |
seabeyond |
Feb-16-10 11:16 AM |
#161 |
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Their superior is a woman |
itsrobert |
Feb-16-10 03:35 PM |
#163 |
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really, who cares. in this show, women willingly allowed themselves to be dehumanized |
seabeyond |
Feb-16-10 05:00 PM |
#164 |
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Hooters business model: Male supremacy, subservient objectified women. |
noamnety |
Feb-16-10 11:05 AM |
#159 |
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Very good points... |
redqueen |
Feb-16-10 11:11 AM |
#160 |
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