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| 136. The guy is a douchebag, but I don't think he's really a racist. |
| -John Mayer's racist comments in Playboy ignite Twitter ... |
HipChick |
Feb-10-10 04:23 PM |
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Wow. And he thinks black people love him, huh? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Feb-10-10 04:28 PM |
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Franti is touring w/ Mayer right now. |
PuraVidaDreamin |
Feb-10-10 04:38 PM |
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That would be my plan too |
HarveyDarkey |
Feb-10-10 05:58 PM |
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Well then, |
PuraVidaDreamin |
Feb-10-10 06:22 PM |
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Thank you very much |
HarveyDarkey |
Feb-10-10 06:29 PM |
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Love Franti |
omega minimo |
Feb-11-10 01:37 AM |
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jeez. I wonder if the sentence, "I'm talking and I can't shut up" ran through his mind |
Iris |
Feb-10-10 04:39 PM |
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He sends out some great tweets |
proud2BlibKansan |
Feb-10-10 04:40 PM |
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His mouth is a blunderland. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Feb-10-10 04:44 PM |
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I hate you |
Orrex |
Feb-10-10 04:58 PM |
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DUzy |
omega minimo |
Feb-10-10 05:51 PM |
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an amazing blunderland. |
cali |
Feb-10-10 05:58 PM |
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don't drink & tweet |
spanone |
Feb-10-10 04:47 PM |
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Sorry, I don't see it |
NickB79 |
Feb-10-10 04:54 PM |
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I'm kind of with you |
tkmorris |
Feb-10-10 05:02 PM |
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I agree. He isn't racist based on this interview. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-10-10 05:45 PM |
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Why was it necessary to identify your wife's ethinicity?? This kind of thing |
Number23 |
Feb-10-10 05:13 PM |
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I can't speak for him... |
MellowDem |
Feb-10-10 06:03 PM |
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I think you're right. And on one hand, I agree that a person's ethnicity does lend them more weight |
Number23 |
Feb-10-10 06:14 PM |
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Well, it was the wife's opinion... |
MellowDem |
Feb-10-10 06:32 PM |
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Well, we'll just have to disagree on this point then. |
Number23 |
Feb-10-10 07:05 PM |
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Lots and lots of people have experienced racism... |
MellowDem |
Feb-10-10 10:54 PM |
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You seem to be taking this extremely personally and getting totally off track |
Number23 |
Feb-10-10 11:33 PM |
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You seem to think you can read my mind... |
MellowDem |
Feb-11-10 10:49 AM |
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I'm actually to the point where I don't undersand what you're saying anymore |
Number23 |
Feb-11-10 04:16 PM |
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My point is simple... |
MellowDem |
Feb-11-10 04:45 PM |
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?????? |
Number23 |
Feb-11-10 04:53 PM |
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I would think... |
MellowDem |
Feb-11-10 05:04 PM |
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Nobody said anything about keeping whites out of the conversation. |
Raineyb |
Feb-11-10 08:57 PM |
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A conversation with unequal footing... |
MellowDem |
Feb-11-10 09:29 PM |
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That's your problem. Conversations on unequal footing happens all the time. |
Raineyb |
Feb-11-10 09:31 PM |
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And they aren't productive... |
MellowDem |
Feb-11-10 09:37 PM |
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Well you can't make them equal by dismissing people's experience. So you'll just have to deal. n/t |
Raineyb |
Feb-12-10 12:08 AM |
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actually, it was his |
fishwax |
Feb-10-10 07:21 PM |
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He said... |
MellowDem |
Feb-10-10 10:35 PM |
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He also prefaced his post with "My take on this:" |
fishwax |
Feb-10-10 11:12 PM |
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But even you use words like... |
MellowDem |
Feb-11-10 10:19 AM |
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of course I did -- that was pretty much my point |
fishwax |
Feb-11-10 01:02 PM |
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Fantastic. |
Number23 |
Feb-11-10 04:27 PM |
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aw shucks, Number23 |
fishwax |
Feb-11-10 05:42 PM |
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This is a false choice.... |
MellowDem |
Feb-11-10 04:29 PM |
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lol -- actually, no it isn't a false choice |
fishwax |
Feb-11-10 05:32 PM |
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Yes, it is a false choice... |
MellowDem |
Feb-11-10 06:22 PM |
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no, not really |
fishwax |
Feb-11-10 07:56 PM |
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Yes, really |
MellowDem |
Feb-11-10 08:38 PM |
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"more" =/= "exclusively" |
fishwax |
Feb-11-10 09:28 PM |
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"Are" |
MellowDem |
Feb-11-10 10:24 PM |
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no, it's not the case that everyone has experienced the reality of race and racism |
fishwax |
Feb-11-10 11:44 PM |
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We'll just have to agree to disagree... |
MellowDem |
Feb-12-10 10:42 AM |
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Your "logic" is as per usual completely faulty. |
Raineyb |
Feb-11-10 03:15 PM |
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Not at all... |
MellowDem |
Feb-11-10 04:59 PM |
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bwahaha -- one reason that whites might want to participate in such a discussion is to *learn* |
fishwax |
Feb-11-10 05:40 PM |
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I fully agree.. |
MellowDem |
Feb-11-10 06:03 PM |
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How else would they enter the discussion. You cannot enter a discussion based on experience on |
Raineyb |
Feb-11-10 08:49 PM |
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Everyone has experience and perspective... |
MellowDem |
Feb-11-10 09:07 PM |
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It seems to be plenty fine when you think it's black people on the short end of that equality |
Raineyb |
Feb-11-10 09:19 PM |
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I was talking about third party experiences... |
MellowDem |
Feb-11-10 09:47 PM |
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Third party experience? Like when a newspaper puts out a blatantly |
Raineyb |
Feb-12-10 12:12 AM |
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I'm African American and I find his |
goclark |
Feb-10-10 07:01 PM |
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American music is African American music... |
immoderate |
Feb-10-10 11:01 PM |
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Was it a subject in the conversation? |
texastoast |
Feb-11-10 09:30 PM |
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I just liked the words Playboy, ignite and twitter...giggity giggity |
NM_hemilover |
Feb-10-10 05:39 PM |
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agreed |
Whisp |
Feb-10-10 06:21 PM |
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I totally agree with you. |
zonkers |
Feb-11-10 10:42 AM |
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People Shouldn't Try to Look Into an Artist's Mind If They Can't Stand Brutal Honesty |
NashVegas |
Feb-11-10 12:00 PM |
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I agree. He may be frank and tactless, but racist he isn't. n/t |
TroglodyteScholar |
Feb-11-10 05:42 PM |
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I must be reading it the wrong way. |
DefenseLawyer |
Feb-10-10 05:09 PM |
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I'm black and I never heard of him |
Number23 |
Feb-10-10 05:12 PM |
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He's a popular singer whose biggest claim to fame the past several years has been as actress |
4lbs |
Feb-10-10 05:42 PM |
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No actually the gossip is that he is messing with Taylor Swift. |
Shell Beau |
Feb-10-10 06:18 PM |
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I think he's a very talented musician |
Whisp |
Feb-10-10 06:22 PM |
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Didn't read what he said as racist. Nt |
xchrom |
Feb-10-10 05:30 PM |
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His comments are complementary of Black people |
Schema Thing |
Feb-10-10 05:34 PM |
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I believe that a "racist" remark is in the ear of the listener |
goclark |
Feb-11-10 07:47 AM |
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Feb-11-10 09:35 AM |
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I'll stick with my beliefs |
goclark |
Feb-11-10 09:53 AM |
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I'd be happy |
Blue Owl |
Feb-10-10 05:48 PM |
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I'm a white guy that lives in the hood. |
asdjrocky |
Feb-10-10 05:49 PM |
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I don't think he's terribly good looking and I like his music |
cali |
Feb-10-10 06:03 PM |
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You know Cali, |
asdjrocky |
Feb-10-10 06:13 PM |
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This post demands pics... |
tnlefty |
Feb-10-10 06:49 PM |
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"My dick is sort of like a white supremacist. I've got a Beneton heart and a fuckin David Duke cock" |
Renew Deal |
Feb-10-10 05:53 PM |
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I cannot stop laughing over that. I just can't. |
cali |
Feb-10-10 05:59 PM |
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I think his comments were fucking ignorant and stupid...but not racist. |
MadBadger |
Feb-10-10 06:00 PM |
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Maybe he should just go back |
customerserviceguy |
Feb-10-10 06:06 PM |
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He really went off the rails. |
TexasObserver |
Feb-10-10 06:08 PM |
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Racist? No... |
MellowDem |
Feb-10-10 06:11 PM |
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Wait, somebody read Playboy for an article? |
gratuitous |
Feb-10-10 06:13 PM |
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DUzy |
JeffR |
Feb-10-10 11:02 PM |
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Who? n/t |
retread |
Feb-10-10 06:15 PM |
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He is obviously comfortable using the n-word, and I don't get that. |
Shell Beau |
Feb-10-10 06:21 PM |
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Drunk and given a free pass to run off at the mouth. He's just another asshole-- |
blondeatlast |
Feb-10-10 06:31 PM |
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well if you're curious... |
cali |
Feb-10-10 06:46 PM |
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This is why you don't discuss racial issues when drunk. |
name not needed |
Feb-10-10 06:36 PM |
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I don't think he was trying to be racist, but "ni**er pass" is racist..... |
marmar |
Feb-10-10 07:15 PM |
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He's As Tedious A Person As He Is A Performer |
ProfessorGAC |
Feb-10-10 07:18 PM |
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+1 |
opiate69 |
Feb-10-10 07:34 PM |
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Nothing is ever considered racist on DU unless a conservative says it. nt |
CBR |
Feb-10-10 07:22 PM |
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sometimes, oddly, not even then n/t |
fishwax |
Feb-10-10 07:32 PM |
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BULLSHIT! |
Renew Deal |
Feb-10-10 08:15 PM |
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Wrong Spot |
Toasterlad |
Feb-10-10 08:47 PM |
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He was talking as if it were just one drunk guy to another. Nothing harmful here. |
The Wielding Truth |
Feb-10-10 07:52 PM |
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I Don't Get to Decide If Other People Should Be Offended By John Mayer. |
Toasterlad |
Feb-10-10 08:48 PM |
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My take on Mayer |
rufus dog |
Feb-10-10 10:59 PM |
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not so much racist as boorish, crude and insensitive... |
Blue_Tires |
Feb-10-10 11:09 PM |
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+1 |
AndrewP |
Feb-11-10 01:35 PM |
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+2 n/t |
texastoast |
Feb-11-10 08:52 PM |
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Here's a youtube of Mayer playing with Clapton on "Crossroads" |
cbdo2007 |
Feb-10-10 11:27 PM |
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the dude has great talent |
rufus dog |
Feb-10-10 11:39 PM |
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Actually....the LIVE John Mayer is completely different from the radio/MTV |
cbdo2007 |
Feb-10-10 11:55 PM |
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Its great to hear both of them play on that video............ |
CrownPrinceBandar |
Feb-11-10 10:21 AM |
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Good ear - I watched another Youtube video last night of Mayer |
cbdo2007 |
Feb-11-10 11:48 AM |
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I still love Johnny |
donheld |
Feb-10-10 11:39 PM |
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The shit he said creeped me out. |
whatchamacallit |
Feb-10-10 11:41 PM |
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I've never understood what people see in this guy. Not only |
Lindsey |
Feb-11-10 12:41 AM |
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I totally agree. He's a scummy guy who talks and behaves like an immature teenager. |
earth mom |
Feb-11-10 04:09 AM |
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Sorry, but I think that John |
texastoast |
Feb-11-10 08:58 PM |
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Sombich |
texastoast |
Feb-11-10 08:54 PM |
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I love his music, but his a total jackass. |
Lilyeye |
Feb-11-10 01:17 AM |
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A "David Duke cock" and a Dukes of Hazzard brain |
omega minimo |
Feb-11-10 01:39 AM |
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DUzy! |
BlueIris |
Feb-11-10 01:52 AM |
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Prolly jumps in the car without opening the door and wonders why his head hurts. |
omega minimo |
Feb-11-10 02:02 AM |
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he's not remotely stupid. he is someone who doesn't seem to edit himself |
cali |
Feb-11-10 03:35 AM |
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And then wonders why African Americans don't rush up with cold compresses to help. nt |
BlueIris |
Feb-11-10 03:35 AM |
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Feb-11-10 03:53 AM |
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what a dumbass |
guitar man |
Feb-11-10 09:24 AM |
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best post of the thread. drinking scotch while being interviewed is a stupid thing |
cali |
Feb-11-10 09:38 AM |
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Exactly |
guitar man |
Feb-11-10 09:59 AM |
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Mayer should lay off the scotch |
derby378 |
Feb-11-10 09:35 AM |
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This guy's a mediocre musician with a BRILLIANT publicist. |
Romulox |
Feb-11-10 10:04 AM |
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Good guitar player. Shitty singer. |
tilsammans |
Feb-11-10 10:18 AM |
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racist comments? probably. |
bigtree |
Feb-11-10 10:30 AM |
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I have no idea who that guy is, but wow is he a pig. |
Tailormyst |
Feb-11-10 10:53 AM |
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John Mayer on Chappelle's Show... |
SidDithers |
Feb-11-10 02:05 PM |
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Racial Racist |
zaj |
Feb-11-10 04:27 PM |
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Whatever... |
misanthrope |
Feb-11-10 04:41 PM |
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Racist bitch |
Sultana |
Feb-11-10 09:20 PM |
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He probably thought readers of a sexist mag like Playboy would have no problem with a little racism |
marshall |
Feb-11-10 10:04 PM |
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The guy is a douchebag, but I don't think he's really a racist. |
Luciferous |
Feb-11-10 11:50 PM |
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