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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:59 PM
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If you still couldn't afford to retire, then you wouldn't.

Presumably, these would be people who have houses and have paid off mortgages (that would shift my living expenses down 2.5K/month right there).

If she could just get Medicare in there, I'm betting even more than her estimate would tell the boss to take the job and shove it.
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  -Marcy Winograd: Put 1 Million Unemployed to Work By Lowering Retirement Age babylonsister  Feb-06-10 05:12 PM   #0 
  - Put a million to work by throwing a million out of work?  jmowreader   Feb-06-10 05:15 PM   #1 
  - But they could afford to...  CaliforniaPeggy   Feb-06-10 05:17 PM   #3 
  - Social security does not come near to equaling a salary  frazzled   Feb-06-10 05:26 PM   #10 
  - For many, it is not the social security, it is the medicare that stops them.  tsuki   Feb-06-10 05:35 PM   #17 
  - exactly.  merh   Feb-06-10 07:53 PM   #49 
  - Social Security plus my retirement would be a good income for me  proud2BlibKansan   Feb-06-10 05:36 PM   #18 
  - As would I!  FLDCVADem   Feb-06-10 09:05 PM   #51 
  - Sixty is the new forty? Hogwash.  virgogal   Feb-06-10 06:25 PM   #30 
  - How old are you? At sixty if you've worked a job that  shraby   Feb-06-10 07:14 PM   #44 
     - Manual laborers might wish to take this ...  frazzled   Feb-06-10 09:24 PM   #52 
  - bwahahahahahahahahahah -- uhh nooo they wouldn't  Donnachaidh   Feb-06-10 05:32 PM   #14 
  - Um, this is voluntary right? So the people that take it would be those that can afford to?  Go2Peace   Feb-06-10 06:12 PM   #26 
  - I think they are suggesting that by lowering the age we can get onto  jwirr   Feb-06-10 05:19 PM   #4 
  - Which is the opposite of what our government has been trying to do.  aquart   Feb-06-10 07:04 PM   #38 
  - I don't think she's advocating forced retirement. nt  sufrommich   Feb-06-10 06:58 PM   #33 
  - Dupe. nt  sufrommich   Feb-06-10 06:58 PM   #34 
  - With today's hourly reductions people could collect benefits and continue to work.  Skink   Feb-06-10 05:16 PM   #2 
  - Why accept permanently scaled back social security payments, who can live on these?  NYC_SKP   Feb-06-10 05:19 PM   #5 
  - Obviously Ms. Winograd hasn't investigated the gap between  Tansy_Gold   Feb-06-10 05:30 PM   #13 
  - Yep. We were duped back in the 80's and 90's about the global economy. Well, some of us.  NYC_SKP   Feb-06-10 05:42 PM   #20 
  - This is VOLUNTARY. Nobody would be made to do it  Go2Peace   Feb-06-10 06:14 PM   #27 
     - Yes, and I think she's right  lolly   Feb-06-10 06:56 PM   #32 
  - They do that in Europe as well.  enlightenment   Feb-06-10 05:51 PM   #24 
     - If You Have Any Info/Links To That, I'd Truly Appreciate You Posting Them...  WillyT   Feb-06-10 07:47 PM   #47 
  - i`d love to have medicare right now.  madrchsod   Feb-06-10 05:20 PM   #6 
  - This doesn't create one job.  grytpype   Feb-06-10 05:22 PM   #7 
  - Bingo!  Skidmore   Feb-06-10 05:26 PM   #11 
  - if anything, it puts MORE stress on the local governments  Donnachaidh   Feb-06-10 05:34 PM   #16 
  - It's VOLUNTARY  lolly   Feb-06-10 06:59 PM   #35 
     - and it's incredibly stupid.  Donnachaidh   Feb-06-10 07:10 PM   #42 
        - Well, heaven forbid  lolly   Feb-06-10 07:20 PM   #45 
  - But, but, it's a Jobless Recovery!  leftstreet   Feb-06-10 05:50 PM   #23 
  - Put 8 million back to work  AllentownJake   Feb-06-10 05:23 PM   #8 
  - Social Security would collapse... even if benefits are scaled back.  DCBob   Feb-06-10 05:25 PM   #9 
  - Don't buy the BS that Social Security is failing  Go2Peace   Feb-06-10 06:22 PM   #28 
     - But until that happens SS is still at risk.  DCBob   Feb-07-10 05:15 AM   #56 
  - What are they going to live on?  Sanity Claws   Feb-06-10 05:28 PM   #12 
  - This is voluntary... SS used to allow retirement at 58, I don't get all the excitement  Go2Peace   Feb-06-10 06:23 PM   #29 
  - From where are you getting this?  FLDCVADem   Feb-06-10 09:28 PM   #54 
     - 65 with full benefits. You used to be able to retire early with lower payments  Go2Peace   Feb-08-10 02:04 AM   #57 
  - People live on it now  lolly   Feb-06-10 07:03 PM   #37 
     - I don't see it as so rosy  Sanity Claws   Feb-06-10 07:05 PM   #39 
        - If they want to work past 60  lolly   Feb-06-10 07:08 PM   #41 
  - I certainly felt like I was doing the altruistic thing  Blue_In_AK   Feb-06-10 05:34 PM   #15 
  - Seems to be in philosophical dissonance with anti-age discrimination laws  HereSince1628   Feb-06-10 05:39 PM   #19 
  - put 3 million to work by passing Medicare for All  librechik   Feb-06-10 05:46 PM   #21 
  - Wow I am ahead of my time, I was laid off a couple days  doc03   Feb-06-10 05:49 PM   #22 
  - The only problem is that we have not fully recovered what was lost in our 401k's.  blue neen   Feb-06-10 06:05 PM   #25 
  - Then don't do it  lolly   Feb-06-10 07:06 PM   #40 
  - I'll take it. nt  cadmium   Feb-06-10 06:26 PM   #31 
  - Bad idea. We need to shelve the ponzi scheme mentality.  EmeraldCityGrl   Feb-06-10 07:00 PM   #36 
  - Social Security is not a "Ponzi Scheme"  lolly   Feb-06-10 07:12 PM   #43 
     - No SS is not a ponzi scheme...  EmeraldCityGrl   Feb-06-10 07:30 PM   #46 
  - Recommend -- this is a voluntary idea -- and people used  xchrom   Feb-06-10 07:49 PM   #48 
  - I personally know of 8 people who work for insurance only  Sheepshank   Feb-06-10 08:04 PM   #50 
  - Give us full-blown socialized medicine and many will retire.  roamer65   Feb-06-10 09:28 PM   #53 
  - I think it is a really good idea.  OhioBlue   Feb-06-10 09:46 PM   #55 
  - Didn't Dennis Kucinich suggest the same thing the other day? n/t  secondwind   Feb-08-10 02:10 AM   #58 

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