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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 03:12 PM
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122. Absolutely every attack on Kucinich I've seen on DU sounds totally like it comes from ...
Edited on Fri Apr-27-07 03:16 PM by TahitiNut
... the corporatist right wing. Every DU thread that maps DUers on the Political Compass places 80-90% of DUers to the left/libertarian near side of Kucinich ... which indicates that the vast majority of DUers agree MOST CLOSELY with Kucinich's stance on the issues. The 10-20% to the right/authoritarian side of him, and those who hide their positions, seem to account for the vast majority of attacks on Kucinich.

There is almost nothing more politically detestable to me than those who lack the courage of what they claim are their firm convictions - unless it's those who'd adopt a Quisling/Vichy approach.

It's bad enough to deal with the double-dealing and corruption of the profoundly corrupt neoconservative cabal without dealing with the appeasers and political saboteurs flying false flags.

It's absolutely NO ACCIDENT that the widening gap between the affluent and the impoverished has increased over the last 25-30 years under BOTH parties and that poitical support for working people in THIS COUNTRY has consistently declined. There's been no notable progress on civil rights for the past 30 years. The size of the prison poopulation has increased EVERY YEAR for the past 25-30 years.

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  -Dennis Kucinich would make the best president lynyrd_skynyrd  Apr-26-07 08:05 PM   #0 
  - I agree n/t  umtalal   Apr-26-07 08:06 PM   #1 
  - I think he showed why he can't get above 10% support.  Dawgs   Apr-26-07 08:07 PM   #2 
  - Because people can't handle hearing the truth?  libnnc   Apr-26-07 09:21 PM   #37 
     - And thats the real reason Kucinich is there to say the Truth  lovuian   Apr-27-07 12:24 PM   #94 
     - That's actually a big part of the problem with Kucinich supporters.  rinsd   Apr-27-07 01:32 PM   #103 
        - I see your point , but.  cyclezealot   Apr-27-07 02:00 PM   #105 
        - Or Green.  krkaufman   Apr-27-07 03:32 PM   #125 
        - Not quite. Politics is about winning, not truth.  LWolf   May-03-07 06:55 AM   #160 
  - Yes Sir.  PreacherCasey   Apr-26-07 08:08 PM   #3 
  - Amen!  Desertrose   Apr-26-07 08:11 PM   #4 
  - Do any of the other 7  flobee1   Apr-26-07 08:13 PM   #5 
  - There's the major reason I support him, right there.  greyhound1966   Apr-27-07 07:25 AM   #54 
  - With a one-vote caucus margin in the Senate ...  krkaufman   Apr-27-07 03:38 PM   #126 
  - Good point. He walks the walk, that's for sure.  tblue   Apr-27-07 03:00 PM   #114 
  - He only proposed a bill  Nederland   Apr-27-07 03:14 PM   #123 
     - He does sort of come across as a George Bush-style lone ranger ...  krkaufman   Apr-27-07 03:41 PM   #127 
  - Yes he would.  lonestarnot   Apr-26-07 08:16 PM   #6 
  - On the issues, I think Kucinich wins, but he's not electable in our system.  Selatius   Apr-26-07 08:16 PM   #7 
  - I for one would rather have a beer at the bar in the first Star Wars movie with my  Seabiscuit   Apr-27-07 11:17 AM   #80 
  - Bush didn't win either election.  Stevepol   Apr-27-07 01:25 PM   #101 
     - True. But why was he considered electable at all?  tblue   Apr-27-07 03:01 PM   #115 
  - I think he did  H2O Man   Apr-26-07 08:17 PM   #8 
  - Dennis Kucinich is too good for wingnut America.  partylessinOhio   Apr-26-07 08:21 PM   #9 
  - I think he would be good as a President, he cares about the  alyce douglas   Apr-26-07 08:33 PM   #15 
  - Too true  peace frog   Apr-27-07 10:22 AM   #73 
  - Absolutely every attack on Kucinich I've seen on DU sounds totally like it comes from ...  TahitiNut   Apr-27-07 03:12 PM   #122 
     - Can I recommend this thread?  LWolf   Apr-27-07 08:21 PM   #156 
  - I would agree with this premise: If...  Joe Fields   Apr-26-07 08:23 PM   #10 
  - who are too attatched to outside special interests  flobee1   Apr-26-07 08:25 PM   #12 
  - Quite unfortunate. Of all of the candidates, I respect and admire him the most.  Joe Fields   Apr-27-07 09:58 AM   #61 
  - I think that's a bad rap. Dennis has done well in Congress and "plays well with the other children"  TahitiNut   Apr-26-07 08:59 PM   #27 
  - He does not work well with others  Freddie Stubbs   Apr-27-07 05:51 AM   #52 
     - Aggravated centrist dems...  Moochy   Apr-27-07 10:15 AM   #71 
     - He has shown an inability to get anything done in Congress  Freddie Stubbs   Apr-27-07 11:02 AM   #77 
     - Disgusting.  cyclezealot   Apr-27-07 02:04 PM   #106 
  - They said exactly the same thing about Raygun, but he fooled them,  greyhound1966   Apr-27-07 07:30 AM   #55 
     - True, if Denis could build popular support, by stating his cases directly  Joe Fields   Apr-27-07 10:28 AM   #74 
        - Exactly  Nederland   Apr-27-07 04:08 PM   #134 
  - Perhaps  MonkeyFunk   Apr-26-07 08:24 PM   #11 
  - No disrespect intended, but...  warren pease   Apr-26-07 08:48 PM   #18 
     - So you want a Democrat  MonkeyFunk   Apr-26-07 08:49 PM   #19 
     - No, not precisely because of his governing style..  warren pease   Apr-26-07 09:15 PM   #33 
     - How about this?  nathan hale   Apr-27-07 04:54 AM   #51 
     - I don't know whether to laugh or cry.  NCevilDUer   Apr-27-07 03:48 PM   #130 
        - oh please  MonkeyFunk   Apr-27-07 08:23 PM   #157 
     - That didn't work for Carter  dansolo   Apr-27-07 11:37 AM   #86 
        - Yeah, that's a good point  warren pease   Apr-27-07 12:48 PM   #98 
  - I am amazed nobody has gone berserk on this thread yet  Wetzelbill   Apr-26-07 08:26 PM   #13 
  - one thing that stood out is when not one of the other  alyce douglas   Apr-26-07 08:30 PM   #14 
  - I hate to say it, but they looked like chicken shits when asked  B Calm   Apr-26-07 08:50 PM   #20 
  - Agreed 100% ... BUT ... they're Senators.  TahitiNut   Apr-26-07 09:02 PM   #28 
     - Only some of them.  NCevilDUer   Apr-27-07 04:12 PM   #135 
  - None of the other  MonkeyFunk   Apr-27-07 08:26 PM   #158 
  - His web site is OVERLOADED...!  SnoopDog   Apr-26-07 08:35 PM   #16 
  - Yes!  lonestarnot   Apr-26-07 10:20 PM   #47 
  - Yes, he would.  Canuckistanian   Apr-26-07 08:46 PM   #17 
  - Yeah, could you imagine going from international beligerent  mmonk   Apr-26-07 08:50 PM   #21 
  - Be still my beating heart! n/t  Beam Me Up   Apr-26-07 08:53 PM   #22 
  - Dennis was the best choice last time out too.  sellitman   Apr-26-07 08:54 PM   #23 
  - he's my favorite  stuntcat   Apr-26-07 08:55 PM   #24 
  - YES...Totally AGREE!  spooked   Apr-26-07 08:55 PM   #25 
  - I agree.  Neoma   Apr-26-07 08:56 PM   #26 
  - Nope. Too naive.  Katzenkavalier   Apr-26-07 09:03 PM   #29 
  - Could you expound on that a little?  libnnc   Apr-26-07 09:20 PM   #35 
     - He won't expand on his post...  AnOhioan   Apr-27-07 04:52 AM   #50 
        - Yes, but consider he probably used up his entire vocabulary in the initial reply.  greyhound1966   Apr-27-07 07:36 AM   #56 
  - absolutely.  robinlynne   Apr-26-07 09:03 PM   #30 
  - Hear, hear!  notsodumbhillbilly   Apr-26-07 09:03 PM   #31 
  - you bet  goodhue   Apr-26-07 09:06 PM   #32 
  - he would probably win if everyone was willing to support him  alyce douglas   Apr-26-07 09:21 PM   #36 
     - Now there is the stickler, convincing fucking people NOT to vote AGAINST their own interests!  lonestarnot   Apr-26-07 10:21 PM   #48 
        - and it seems people do vote against their own interests  alyce douglas   Apr-27-07 07:20 AM   #53 
  - SUPPORT HIM WITH A DONATION FRON THE D U LINK  nedbal   Apr-26-07 09:19 PM   #34 
  - Can't support him - he didn't answer the question on choice.  DURHAM D   Apr-26-07 09:23 PM   #38 
  - I thought he said they should be safe, rare and legal  libnnc   Apr-26-07 09:26 PM   #39 
  - Sorry - he did not respond clearly to the question about  DURHAM D   Apr-26-07 09:30 PM   #41 
     - He wasn't given the opportunity to answer that  libnnc   Apr-26-07 09:32 PM   #42 
  - That would have been Obama  AnOhioan   Apr-26-07 09:30 PM   #40 
     - Go back and listen to Kucinich's response once you realize  DURHAM D   Apr-26-07 09:32 PM   #43 
        - I do not need to relisten  AnOhioan   Apr-27-07 04:51 AM   #49 
        - He is a progressive, which means he is capable of learning.  NCevilDUer   Apr-27-07 04:16 PM   #138 
  - Yes he would  blues90   Apr-26-07 09:33 PM   #44 
  - Damn right!  wildbilln864   Apr-26-07 09:34 PM   #45 
  - K&R  notsodumbhillbilly   Apr-26-07 09:52 PM   #46 
  - absolutely-- no other dem candidates come close to DK....  mike_c   Apr-27-07 09:22 AM   #57 
  - He IS electable.  Holland   Apr-27-07 09:37 AM   #58 
  - He has my vote, 100%.  soulcore   Apr-27-07 09:51 AM   #59 
  - President of what?  johncoby2   Apr-27-07 09:53 AM   #60 
  - Why, President of Peace-itania! Where gumdrops and lollipops  wienerdoggie   Apr-27-07 10:01 AM   #62 
     - So you prefer war then? n/t  soulcore   Apr-27-07 10:08 AM   #68 
        - No, I prefer a responsible, phased exit strategy from Iraq, I prefer  wienerdoggie   Apr-27-07 10:13 AM   #69 
           - That ISNT leaning right!  johncoby2   Apr-27-07 11:20 AM   #82 
           - Thanks! I suppose  wienerdoggie   Apr-27-07 11:34 AM   #85 
           - When you say "our enemies" without quotes and with a straight face,  Ron_Green   Apr-27-07 11:29 AM   #84 
           - Just because the GOPers emphasize our enemies and blather  wienerdoggie   Apr-27-07 11:41 AM   #88 
           - I'd like a responsible phased exit strategy, too,  NCevilDUer   Apr-27-07 04:18 PM   #139 
  - I AM Voting My Conscience  socretes73   Apr-27-07 10:03 AM   #63 
  - no doubt  goodhue   Apr-27-07 10:05 AM   #64 
  - .  goodhue   Apr-27-07 07:33 PM   #152 
  - Yep. Nobody owns him.  Winebrat   Apr-27-07 10:05 AM   #65 
  - Agreed, maybe in our next lifetimes...n/t  Virginia Dare   Apr-27-07 10:06 AM   #66 
  - Did impeaching cheaney come up  Nightjock   Apr-27-07 10:08 AM   #67 
  - They were asked to raise there hands if they supported Cheney impeachment  goodhue   Apr-27-07 10:16 AM   #72 
     - Are you kidding me? I missed the debate, but this is ridiculous. WTH is wrong with them??? nt  tblue   Apr-27-07 03:04 PM   #118 
  - I think he belongs in Congress  Rosemary2205   Apr-27-07 10:14 AM   #70 
  - Integrity points: DK and Gravel. If character matters....  The Count   Apr-27-07 10:45 AM   #75 
  - Yes, it's the unfortunate "Colmes Effect".  file83   Apr-27-07 10:58 AM   #76 
  - The Colmes effect (like say, the teflon effect) are all manufactured  The Count   Apr-27-07 02:08 PM   #108 
     - Me, too. * always gave me the creeps. Then I read 'Shrub,' and it was all over. I saw through  tblue   Apr-27-07 03:07 PM   #120 
        - God bless Molly. She did try to warn us. n/t  krkaufman   Apr-27-07 03:46 PM   #129 
        - For me it was reading about "Jesus Day" in NYT. That did it!  The Count   Apr-27-07 03:58 PM   #133 
  - And it was our semi-hero Keith O who took the cheap shot at Sen. Gravel...  krkaufman   Apr-27-07 03:45 PM   #128 
  - yes. character does matter.  cyclezealot   Apr-27-07 04:40 PM   #142 
  - yes  donsu   Apr-27-07 11:07 AM   #78 
  - True, if only Americans could quit being so shallow and  treestar   Apr-27-07 11:15 AM   #79 
  - I so agree! But see the polled debate votes. Kooch scored  WiseButAngrySara   Apr-27-07 11:19 AM   #81 
  - If only the nay sayers  temperancedissent   Apr-27-07 11:28 AM   #83 
  - Didn't you get the memo? Dennis is unelectable. He's "scary". He's "weird".  Beelzebud   Apr-27-07 11:39 AM   #87 
  - Right, peace is just too radical a concept for some progressives. n/t  soulcore   Apr-27-07 11:46 AM   #89 
  - Electability= who MSM & their masters aprove of  The Count   Apr-27-07 02:10 PM   #109 
  - Kick and Rec n/t  Jcrowley   Apr-27-07 11:47 AM   #90 
  - I'ld consider the republican nominee unless he was really extreme right  dmordue   Apr-27-07 11:49 AM   #91 
  - Republicans would slaughter him once in office. It would be one big shouting match.  w4rma   Apr-27-07 12:04 PM   #92 
  - I was apalled to see the candidates we have Kucinich is  lovuian   Apr-27-07 12:12 PM   #93 
  - Kucinich made me feel proud to be a Democrat  herbster   Apr-27-07 12:29 PM   #95 
  - I believe it.  Orsino   Apr-27-07 12:31 PM   #96 
  - I agree!!!  TNOE   Apr-27-07 12:46 PM   #97 
  - I like Kucinich also  judaspriestess   Apr-27-07 12:50 PM   #99 
  - I will vote my conscience this time and Kucinich is it... nt  poverlay   Apr-27-07 01:19 PM   #100 
  - He certainly showed the highest integrity last night, love the pocket constitution nice touch. =)  cooolandrew   Apr-27-07 01:27 PM   #102 
  - during his campaigns three years ago,  cyclezealot   Apr-27-07 02:06 PM   #107 
  - is the DK lovefest over yet?  bpeale   Apr-27-07 01:47 PM   #104 
  - Why should it be? Did he sell out? Equivocate? Act against his rhetoric?  The Count   Apr-27-07 02:12 PM   #110 
  - Nope, not until the primary is over.  lonestarnot   Apr-27-07 02:28 PM   #112 
  - I was leaning elsewhere before  Gonnabuymeagun   Apr-27-07 02:13 PM   #111 
  - I believe he has the most comprehensive plan to put us on track the fastest & the most profoundly.  tblue   Apr-27-07 02:58 PM   #113 
  - Gore gives a compliment to Kucinich  Kurts Girl   Apr-27-07 03:09 PM   #121 
  - We'd sure have a beautiful First Lady if he won: (Dial-up warning)  Aristus   Apr-27-07 03:02 PM   #116 
  - She is a natural beauty. And I bet she has a brain, too. And morals!  tblue   Apr-27-07 03:03 PM   #117 
  - Geaux Dennis Kucinich!!!  Swamp Rat   Apr-27-07 03:06 PM   #119 
  - Actually, former Senator Gravel made Dennis look tepid.  krkaufman   Apr-27-07 03:30 PM   #124 
  - I'm proud to support DK  Truth2Tell   Apr-27-07 03:52 PM   #131 
  - Kucinich should be supported. Those who say he's "non electable"  GreenTea   Apr-27-07 03:58 PM   #132 
  - Not true  Nederland   Apr-27-07 04:13 PM   #136 
     - I don't think that's true at all  lynyrd_skynyrd   Apr-27-07 06:08 PM   #145 
        - ...and much more cooperative John Kerry  upi402   Apr-27-07 06:58 PM   #149 
  - of Micronesia maybe.  BlooInBloo   Apr-27-07 04:13 PM   #137 
  - he wouldn't be good because he's "unelectable"?  provis99   Apr-27-07 04:20 PM   #140 
  - I agree. If we can get people....  Desertrose   Apr-27-07 04:38 PM   #141 
  - I've said it before and I'll say it again:  Vox_Reason   Apr-27-07 05:22 PM   #143 
  - I like him, I believe he is the most honest among the candidates.  Dr_eldritch   Apr-27-07 06:00 PM   #144 
  - Love him!  cboy4   Apr-27-07 06:15 PM   #146 
  - I voted for Kucinich in 2004 and he's the only presidential candidate...  Eric J in MN   Apr-27-07 06:55 PM   #147 
  - YES! n/t  upi402   Apr-27-07 06:56 PM   #148 
  - I agree.  boobooday   Apr-27-07 06:59 PM   #150 
  - He has my support.  anotheryellowdog   Apr-27-07 07:01 PM   #151 
  - If people actually want to vote on principle DK is the man  Wetzelbill   Apr-27-07 07:50 PM   #153 
  - And his peace-globe shirt rules!  NastyDiaper   Apr-27-07 08:02 PM   #154 
  - That's an inconvenient truth  LWolf   Apr-27-07 08:18 PM   #155 
  - Best ever!  mdmc   May-01-07 03:34 PM   #159 
 

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