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flyingpussyfoot Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:37 AM
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101. The reaction in Japan (Internet) rather cold
It seems like Toyoda's thin correspondence at the meeting made him call the "Child President"

Some of the statements that I found on Japanese bulliten boards:
"If the executives are this stupid, there is no way they will make an improvement. We could have never seen anything like this from Toyota 20 Years Ago"
"I think the existence of Toyota itself is meaningless"
"I think they should just close down all the factories, period"
"Whenever I drive my Prius, Cars around me go apart. Now I can easily drive!"
"Drive in Heaven"

But I myself would still buy a Toyota.
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  -What's so bad about Toyota? DaveinJapan  Feb-04-10 07:40 AM   #0 
  - Have 2 Toyotas and love them both  leftofcool   Feb-04-10 07:44 AM   #1 
  - We have three as well and love them  malaise   Feb-05-10 04:58 AM   #85 
  - The European recalls  dipsydoodle   Feb-04-10 07:46 AM   #2 
  - yup my FJ is from the japan factory as well, seems to be an issue with the US parts only  vadawg   Feb-04-10 07:48 AM   #6 
  - I have a Japanese Toyota too  M155Y_A1CH   Feb-04-10 08:59 AM   #27 
  - well my fj is only two years old and ive put just over 90,000 on it and no problems  vadawg   Feb-04-10 09:16 AM   #34 
  - Is that  dipsydoodle   Feb-04-10 11:28 AM   #46 
  - I had  dipsydoodle   Feb-04-10 11:26 AM   #45 
     - I wish mine was a Supra  M155Y_A1CH   Feb-04-10 12:06 PM   #58 
     - They are anti-union  Fixed_Based_Operator   Feb-04-10 09:08 PM   #72 
  - Just so everybody knows--the FJ is like the Japanese Hummer.  Romulox   Feb-04-10 11:43 AM   #53 
     - i get about 15mpg, my mother in law has a prius and gets a lot better mpg but she cant get anywhere  vadawg   Feb-04-10 03:32 PM   #60 
     - God, that's ugly.  Kalyke   Feb-04-10 04:01 PM   #65 
     - thats because its not designed just for its looks, its built for a task...  vadawg   Feb-04-10 04:48 PM   #66 
     - Thanks for the pic  dipsydoodle   Feb-04-10 06:26 PM   #68 
  - All Prius's currently come from Japan. n/t  ingac70   Feb-04-10 07:51 AM   #7 
     - GAWD help us when those things start a-rollin' off a line on the Ol' Mississipp!  Romulox   Feb-04-10 11:58 AM   #56 
        - lol.  ingac70   Feb-04-10 08:19 PM   #69 
  - I think it's overblown mass hysteria, and Toyota may be over-reacting.  NYC_SKP   Feb-04-10 07:47 AM   #3 
  - Caution is a plus, in my book. nt  LWolf   Feb-04-10 08:03 AM   #15 
  - The NHSTA made them stop selling those models  1gobluedem   Feb-04-10 09:16 AM   #32 
  - Toyota drove the US Auto makers to near oblivion with their "Quality" claim  liberal N proud   Feb-04-10 07:47 AM   #4 
  - At least in the 70's and 80's Toyota absolutely made a better car  CanonRay   Feb-04-10 08:03 AM   #14 
  - I am open to looking at American models  LWolf   Feb-04-10 08:06 AM   #17 
  - Please tell me how Lean affects outsourced part quality.  dmallind   Feb-04-10 08:18 AM   #19 
  - What's wrong with LEAN  liberal N proud   Feb-04-10 10:00 AM   #36 
     - Then that's bad practice, not what's wrong with Lean.  dmallind   Feb-04-10 10:16 AM   #37 
  - They were once masters of perception management  Mopar151   Feb-04-10 03:57 PM   #63 
  - US companies ended up adopting a lot FROM lean culture  fujiyama   Feb-04-10 10:30 PM   #78 
  - Toyota and their cult like consumers....  ingac70   Feb-04-10 07:48 AM   #5 
  - and the cult like consumers are so different from the ford buyers, checy buyers, VW buyers  vadawg   Feb-04-10 07:54 AM   #8 
  - ...notably absent - The Apple Cult. n/t  FormerDittoHead   Feb-04-10 07:57 AM   #9 
  - Right here  Sherman A1   Feb-04-10 08:02 AM   #13 
  - Checking in...  NYC_SKP   Feb-04-10 08:21 AM   #20 
  - yup forgot that one, though im not sure what the hell kind of computer it is im using  vadawg   Feb-04-10 09:19 AM   #35 
  - I don't go about telling everyone.....  ingac70   Feb-04-10 08:01 AM   #10 
  - The level of denial is much higher in the Toyota cultists n/t  Mopar151   Feb-04-10 09:46 PM   #74 
  - Too right.  spoony   Feb-05-10 06:43 AM   #89 
  - Toyotas...  1awake   Feb-04-10 08:01 AM   #11 
  - buying toyota ?  daleman   Feb-04-10 09:12 AM   #29 
  - I've had Toyotas since the '70s, along with  LWolf   Feb-04-10 08:02 AM   #12 
  - and there Ya, go....  Sherman A1   Feb-04-10 08:05 AM   #16 
  - Thank you everyone for your input.  DaveinJapan   Feb-04-10 08:13 AM   #18 
  - What's wrong? They sell cars that accelerate when they're not supposed to...  TommyO   Feb-04-10 08:35 AM   #21 
  - So Did Audi  NashVegas   Feb-04-10 11:33 AM   #49 
     - Simply not true  Mopar151   Feb-04-10 03:30 PM   #59 
     - The brakes on ANY car are powerful enough to stop the car, with the  david13   Feb-04-10 09:03 PM   #70 
        - Depends on the car - no gross exaggeration  Mopar151   Feb-04-10 09:44 PM   #73 
     - .  fujiyama   Feb-04-10 10:39 PM   #79 
  - Robots are old news, been around for decades.  Kokonoe   Feb-04-10 08:35 AM   #22 
  - Toyota is NOT what it used to be  LiberalEsto   Feb-04-10 08:39 AM   #23 
  - When I was a little girl in the 1970s....  ThatsMyBarack   Feb-04-10 08:41 AM   #24 
  - Aaah !  dipsydoodle   Feb-04-10 11:30 AM   #48 
  - My Car History.....  Burma Jones   Feb-04-10 08:41 AM   #25 
  - I have a '96 Toyota that I love  ellie   Feb-04-10 08:49 AM   #26 
  - There is a never ending car war on the board  Johonny   Feb-04-10 09:06 AM   #28 
  - And does it really matter when the idea of an auto  leftofcool   Feb-04-10 09:16 AM   #33 
     - Yes, it matters. nt  spoony   Feb-05-10 06:45 AM   #90 
  - Toyota's Japanese engineers designed those faulty parts  1gobluedem   Feb-04-10 09:13 AM   #30 
  - I have limited resources and have had to buy older used cars. This time around, after my Maxima was  OmmmSweetOmmm   Feb-04-10 09:14 AM   #31 
  - '99 camry, just passed 100K, looks and drives like off the lot. You won't regret your purchase. nt  blondeatlast   Feb-04-10 10:20 AM   #40 
     - And it's comments like yours throughout the internet that convinced me that Camry  OmmmSweetOmmm   Feb-04-10 10:55 AM   #42 
  - Its Japans unfair business practices that bothers me the most  NNN0LHI   Feb-04-10 10:17 AM   #38 
  - This might work. Since other countries (such as Japan w/ cars) limit  Obamanaut   Feb-04-10 11:59 AM   #57 
  - "Toyota is the Walmart of the auto industry"  nonconformist   Feb-05-10 05:25 AM   #88 
  - Their owners? n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Feb-04-10 10:19 AM   #39 
  - It means they can't justify to themselves destroying the American manufacturing base now  Taitertots   Feb-04-10 10:47 AM   #41 
  - Nothing was wrong with them until recently. My Dad has his Corolla for 20 years.  Jennicut   Feb-04-10 10:56 AM   #43 
  - They've lied to cover up a very serious defect that has killed dozens of consumers.  TexasObserver   Feb-04-10 11:23 AM   #44 
  - No idea, we have 4 Toyotas, one is 27 years old and runs fine.  farmout rightarm   Feb-04-10 11:29 AM   #47 
  - These cars are KILLING PEOPLE (20 at last count). Everything else is rationalization at this point.  Romulox   Feb-04-10 11:34 AM   #50 
  - They Got Stupid and Arrogant  NashVegas   Feb-04-10 11:34 AM   #51 
  - LOL  fujiyama   Feb-04-10 10:46 PM   #80 
  - Toyota is one of the greatest companies in the world  taught_me_patience   Feb-04-10 11:35 AM   #52 
  - Look what a family member of the founding Toyoda(that's not a mispelling) family had to say:  Zynx   Feb-04-10 11:46 AM   #54 
  - They cheaped out, on the design. There was a part that already worked  Gman2   Feb-04-10 11:50 AM   #55 
  - I think it's because...  LanternWaste   Feb-04-10 03:54 PM   #61 
  - Not from us. Our '91 & '93 Toyotas are the best cars we ever had.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Feb-04-10 03:56 PM   #62 
  - Anti-union scabs who have made shitty cars for years but are  Kalyke   Feb-04-10 04:00 PM   #64 
  - I stopped driving Japanese junk back in the early 90's..  ddeclue   Feb-04-10 04:52 PM   #67 
  - There is nothing wrong with Toyotas. They make far better cars  david13   Feb-04-10 09:07 PM   #71 
  - At one time - maybe Now - hardly  Mopar151   Feb-04-10 09:56 PM   #75 
  - "Unions protect incompetent and careless workers."  spoony   Feb-05-10 06:50 AM   #91 
  - So who is at fault for Toyota's fuck up?  ingac70   Feb-05-10 12:12 PM   #96 
  - Part of the reason they are getting so much heat  fujiyama   Feb-04-10 10:22 PM   #76 
  - 5S is based on the work rules of the Cornish tin miners  Mopar151   Feb-05-10 03:47 AM   #82 
     - Interesting...have a link for that?  fujiyama   Feb-05-10 04:19 AM   #83 
        - Not handy - I found it out researching stuff I found on Usenet  Mopar151   Feb-05-10 09:57 AM   #95 
  - My Toyota was supposed to be the best  XemaSab   Feb-04-10 10:25 PM   #77 
  - Which model is it?  fujiyama   Feb-04-10 10:59 PM   #81 
  - I have a 95 Camry and the trim is perfect.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Feb-05-10 05:14 AM   #87 
  - Is anyone in Japan raising the possibility  malaise   Feb-05-10 04:54 AM   #84 
  - If so, it is wide spread.  ingac70   Feb-05-10 12:15 PM   #97 
  - When all you have to fall back on is conspiracy theories, you're fucked.  nonconformist   Feb-05-10 05:00 AM   #86 
  - Woo, damn fine post.  spoony   Feb-05-10 06:53 AM   #92 
  - Thanks! Yes, it did feel good.  nonconformist   Feb-05-10 02:08 PM   #99 
  - I hate toyotas  timo   Feb-05-10 07:32 AM   #93 
  - +1!!  ingac70   Feb-05-10 12:53 PM   #98 
  - ?  flyingpussyfoot   Feb-06-10 02:14 AM   #100 
  - It's that the market share they won (via quality) from arrogant US automakers...  Orsino   Feb-05-10 07:54 AM   #94 
  - The reaction in Japan (Internet) rather cold  flyingpussyfoot   Feb-06-10 02:37 AM   #101 

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