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14. Nitpick: "Remember, gay sex was almost as common as straight sex around the time of Jesus."
Edited on Tue Feb-02-10 01:58 PM by TheWraith
It's impossible to make accurate generalizations of things like this across large diverse regions and time periods.

For instance, it was fairly common at that time in Rome and among people of Greek and Roman culture, but much less so in "eastern" (what we today think of as Middle Eastern) cultures, which was one of the things about the Romans that were used to decry their "wickedness." (Though most of the hate-on for the Romans was simply the fact that they kept kicking asses and taking names.)

That said, there's no overt references to homosexuality in Jesus' words, though I recall one mention is made of healing a Roman's servant, who from the context would likely have been a young male "body servant." No condemnation or complaints.
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  -A challenge to any homophobe/Freeper lurkers.. Why didn't Jesus condemn gays? Union Yes  Feb-02-10 01:28 PM   #0 
  - Well.....  Turbineguy   Feb-02-10 01:30 PM   #1 
  - Actually...  teenagebambam   Feb-02-10 01:57 PM   #13 
  - Would've considered himself a Rabbi, I reckon.. nt  Romulox   Feb-02-10 02:20 PM   #22 
  - A social malcontent, likely  Echo In Light   Feb-02-10 04:05 PM   #54 
     - Those two roles weren't necessarily incompatible, at least not in those heady days..  Romulox   Feb-02-10 04:33 PM   #59 
  - Who walked around Israel with a bunch of single men  Touchdown   Feb-02-10 06:18 PM   #76 
  - Actually he wasn't  guitar man   Feb-02-10 02:21 PM   #23 
  - "The last Christian was the one who died on the cross" - Nietzsche  Echo In Light   Feb-02-10 04:07 PM   #55 
     - Nietzsche was/is wrong, that's just a fact of life  Ghost in the Machine   Feb-02-10 04:47 PM   #66 
     - Nietzsche nailed it (pun intended) n/t  spiritual_gunfighter   Feb-02-10 05:01 PM   #69 
  - Or maybe not. If it is true that christians follow the teachings of christ,  Obamanaut   Feb-02-10 04:38 PM   #64 
  - k/r. nt  Romulox   Feb-02-10 01:32 PM   #2 
  - You go Boy!  BOSSHOG   Feb-02-10 01:32 PM   #3 
  - High five!  Union Yes   Feb-02-10 03:31 PM   #43 
  - Good post. Devil's advocate:  Bertha Venation   Feb-02-10 01:33 PM   #4 
  - Jesus was sandwiched between Greek and Roman rule  David Zephyr   Feb-02-10 01:49 PM   #8 
  - But knowing that would require knowing something about Greece and Rome  EFerrari   Feb-02-10 04:36 PM   #60 
     - Well, therein lies the entire problem: they are willingly ignorant.  David Zephyr   Feb-02-10 06:38 PM   #81 
        - Not Only Are They Ignorant...  whitewolfofarizona   Feb-03-10 05:48 AM   #89 
  - There's bunch of love peoms from men to men that were mainstream,  EFerrari   Feb-02-10 04:38 PM   #62 
  - And woman to woman -  northofdenali   Feb-02-10 09:34 PM   #87 
     - Yep. Typically, though, those are harder to find for some reason,  EFerrari   Feb-03-10 12:22 PM   #94 
  - There are about 1000 academic books covering this fact. Let's start with Ancient Greece.  readmoreoften   Feb-03-10 12:26 PM   #95 
  - But, but, but...  joeybee12   Feb-02-10 01:35 PM   #5 
  - Oh, you know why!  CoffeeCat   Feb-02-10 01:45 PM   #6 
  - evangelicals  melm00se   Feb-02-10 01:48 PM   #7 
  - Thank you! Finally!!!  JackintheGreen   Feb-02-10 02:37 PM   #27 
  - god signed a contract? who was his lawyer?  spanone   Feb-02-10 03:06 PM   #39 
  - Contract and Covenant being used interchangeably...  LanternWaste   Feb-02-10 03:36 PM   #44 
  - God doesn't need a lawyer  Sebastian Doyle   Feb-02-10 03:52 PM   #51 
  - Word!  Union Yes   Feb-02-10 03:52 PM   #50 
  - Jesus  melm00se   Feb-03-10 09:16 AM   #91 
  - Thank you for adding that. Agree 100% nt  Union Yes   Feb-02-10 04:26 PM   #57 
  - Too true - sadly.  mwooldri   Feb-02-10 06:44 PM   #82 
  - Certainly this question should be asked of divorced fundamentalists  theHandpuppet   Feb-02-10 01:49 PM   #9 
  - Fundamentalist don't approve of divorce...  jberryhill   Feb-02-10 02:57 PM   #31 
     - But there's plenty of divorced fundamentalists anyway. nt  mwooldri   Feb-02-10 06:09 PM   #73 
  - He was too busy fighting them there so we wouldn't have to fight them here.  Fuzz   Feb-02-10 01:50 PM   #10 
  - I am an heterosexual woman, married 38 years. I agree with you wholeheartedly!  MindandSoul   Feb-02-10 01:53 PM   #11 
  - Peace to you and yours!  closeupready   Feb-02-10 02:00 PM   #17 
  - I am an heterosexual woman, married 38 years. I agree with you wholeheartedly!  MindandSoul   Feb-02-10 01:53 PM   #12 
  - Thanks!  Union Yes   Feb-02-10 03:59 PM   #53 
  - Nitpick: "Remember, gay sex was almost as common as straight sex around the time of Jesus."  TheWraith   Feb-02-10 01:58 PM   #14 
  - Gay sex is a modern invention, that's why, of Satanists.  closeupready   Feb-02-10 01:58 PM   #15 
  - Word.  Union Yes   Feb-02-10 03:49 PM   #47 
  - You go, Union Yes. k&r  M155Y_A1CH   Feb-02-10 01:59 PM   #16 
  - Thanks!  Union Yes   Feb-02-10 03:49 PM   #48 
  - I agree with the sentiment, but really, the bible can justify pretty much anything.  trotsky   Feb-02-10 02:04 PM   #18 
  - Maybe, but no Christian I've heard of offers up burnt sacrifices, or looks to the tribe of Levi  Romulox   Feb-02-10 02:25 PM   #25 
  - Rules against shellfish come from the clean/unclean classifications.  trotsky   Feb-02-10 02:37 PM   #28 
  - If Adventists follow it, then they are defying the plain words of Christ:  Romulox   Feb-02-10 04:24 PM   #56 
     - LOL you prove my point precisely.  trotsky   Feb-02-10 05:46 PM   #70 
  - Nice!  Union Yes   Feb-02-10 03:44 PM   #46 
     - Let's not forget Genesis 1:29!!!  Romulox   Feb-02-10 04:31 PM   #58 
        - ...  Union Yes   Feb-02-10 04:41 PM   #65 
        - What does that mean?  rcrush   Feb-02-10 06:26 PM   #79 
           - It's metaphorical language--it means plants shall be food, sustenance, life to God's people  Romulox   Feb-03-10 09:47 AM   #93 
  - I had a NON christian use that on me  thefool_wa   Feb-02-10 03:03 PM   #34 
  - Jesus did address homosexuality...  Green_Lantern   Feb-02-10 02:08 PM   #19 
  - Amen n/t  thefool_wa   Feb-02-10 03:03 PM   #35 
  - Indeed. Thanks for posting.  Union Yes   Feb-02-10 03:42 PM   #45 
  - Was Jesus gay himself maybe?  Cleita   Feb-02-10 02:16 PM   #20 
  - I'm bisexual, majored in theology ...  GirLInterrupted   Feb-02-10 02:17 PM   #21 
  - Welcome to DU! You are 100% correctamundo.  Union Yes   Feb-02-10 03:29 PM   #41 
  - He ran out of time?  tk2kewl   Feb-02-10 02:24 PM   #24 
  - someday we will unearth his "to do list"  mdmc   Feb-02-10 02:29 PM   #26 
  - I Doubt Any Homophobe/Freeper Lurkers Are Going To Respond To You  Toasterlad   Feb-02-10 02:50 PM   #29 
  - maybe we can call the GLBT group  mitchtv   Feb-02-10 03:02 PM   #33 
  - That troll is no longer with us. n/t  QC   Feb-02-10 09:37 PM   #88 
  - Agreeed  thefool_wa   Feb-02-10 03:06 PM   #38 
  - That's why "Christian Fundies" are not true Christians  Nye Bevan   Feb-02-10 02:55 PM   #30 
  - Awesome  thefool_wa   Feb-02-10 03:00 PM   #32 
  - Also there has been speculation that the disciple John was gay  Nye Bevan   Feb-02-10 03:05 PM   #37 
     - See - I always took that differently  thefool_wa   Feb-02-10 03:07 PM   #40 
  - Christophobes and homophobes (in other words, the fringes) will never agree on this issue.  dem629   Feb-02-10 03:05 PM   #36 
  - Jesus's own words get twisted around all the time, and sometimes people give him the words that  Jennicut   Feb-02-10 03:31 PM   #42 
  - Well said!  Union Yes   Feb-02-10 03:50 PM   #49 
  - My guess they would use Matthew  Johonny   Feb-02-10 03:59 PM   #52 
  - Don't forget that hymn "Deck The Halls". It seems to condone  deaniac21   Feb-02-10 04:37 PM   #61 
  - ....  Union Yes   Feb-02-10 04:54 PM   #68 
     - Fa la la la la, la la la la!  deaniac21   Feb-03-10 03:16 PM   #97 
  - Sorry, can't  TrogL   Feb-02-10 04:38 PM   #63 
  - That's a really well done article. Thanks.  StrongBad   Feb-02-10 07:32 PM   #86 
  - If Jesus really cared so much about hating gay people, he would have written the Bible himself.  EFerrari   Feb-02-10 04:48 PM   #67 
  - The Bible treats homosexual acts the same as it treats fornication or lust.  TexasObserver   Feb-02-10 06:02 PM   #71 
  - Indeed  ruggerson   Feb-02-10 06:12 PM   #74 
     - He'd be facing down Fred Phelps, that's for damn sure.  TexasObserver   Feb-02-10 06:21 PM   #78 
  - Gay sex was as common as straight sex? Why so much gay sex back then?  Democrat_in_Houston   Feb-02-10 06:05 PM   #72 
  - What? n/t  rcrush   Feb-02-10 06:28 PM   #80 
  - I think I understand your question.  PinkoDonkey   Feb-03-10 01:43 PM   #96 
  - Want to make a Christian's/Jewish person's head explode?  Touchdown   Feb-02-10 06:14 PM   #75 
  - Good work here.  asdjrocky   Feb-02-10 06:19 PM   #77 
  - About the Greeks  Mixopterus   Feb-02-10 06:47 PM   #83 
  - Let's say Jesus was walking along and saw  Mendocino   Feb-02-10 06:47 PM   #84 
  - Who cares what some bronze-age tribesman had to say about it?  Jester Messiah   Feb-02-10 06:58 PM   #85 
  - Those folks don't follow the New Testament, only the Old.  Catshrink   Feb-03-10 06:18 AM   #90 
  - The laws of the Old Testament  melm00se   Feb-03-10 09:38 AM   #92 

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